Can Soil Grown Smoke As Clean As Coco?

[PJ Diaz]

hydro will in all plants produce more flower.they will usually not all produce fruit. but cannabis doesnt need fruit

But the passage I posted said that hydro typically grows 20% to 25% more tomatoes compared to soil, and your statement seemingly contradicts that. What sort of fruits are you speaking to which won't produce in hydro?

 

[PJ Diaz]

I heard those strawberries were terrible..

I had some amazing strawberries at one of Driscoll's farms last year, which were grown in soiless medium. It was a white strawberry which had pineapple and tropical undertones.

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[Gemtree]

Coco if you want to grow fire every time without worrying about deficiencies

 

[Sparky413]

Dr

I had some amazing strawberries at one of Driscoll's farms last year, which were grown in soiless medium. It was a white strawberry which had pineapple and tropical undertones.

Driscoll's Unique Tropical Bliss™ Strawberries | Driscoll's

With the launch of our new Tropical Bliss™ Strawberries, tasting is believing! Learn about these unique berries with flavor profiles including pineapple & mango!

www.driscolls.com

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those are a patented type of berry with no other comparison of how they were grown, but damn i got to try some lol

 

[weedstoner420]

Is it possible to define "smooth and clean" in an objectively measurable way, that could not be affected by different drying/storage methods?

If this is coming from a gigantic capitalist operation, I have to assume they go with coco because it's easier to control and automate indoors, and gives results that are easily repeatable on a mass scale.

 

[PopAndSonGrows]

Coco if you want to grow fire every time without worrying about deficiencies

Not true but also not wrong either.

 

[pegboy]

Coco if you want to grow fire every time without worrying about deficiencies

Theres a bunch of guys on this forum struggling with coco as we post.

 

[bk78]

Up for debate: Which smokes better?
Not up for debate: Hydro grows faster and bigger.

Why would one smoke differently?

 

[pegboy]

Why would one smoke differently?

I personally don't believe they do. Just saying it could be open for debate.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Dr

those are a patented type of berry with no other comparison of how they were grown, but damn i got to try some lol

That's true, but I haven't tasted bad strawberries from Driscoll either. The are one of the biggest strawberry producers (I live in one of the main strawberry agriculture areas, and they have several farms nearby), and grow in both field soil and also soiless. They grow their most expensive varieties soiless.

 

[Sparky413]

That's true, but I haven't tasted bad strawberries from Driscoll either. The are one of the biggest strawberry producers (I live in one of the main strawberry agriculture areas, and they have several farms nearby), and grow in both field soil and also soiless. They grow their most expensive varieties soiless.

Nice! Yeah Driscoll berries are pretty good. I've also smoked a lot of really good synthetically grown weed, and it can taste super clean and be real smooth. The best tasting weed I've smoked actually has been synthetic. For my job I was working on a new grow facility. I installed the grow lights so I got to talk with the head grower frequent enough, he hooked me up with some of his personal stash from his home grow. Def. some of the best weed I ever smoked, clean, smooth, and super flavorful.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

#2 would also be up for debate in a "Dialed In" soil system.
I know - I used to be a hydro only non-belieber myself
It does however take more knowledge and wading through bunch of bro science to get to a proper soil recipe

It’s now than just a recipe. It’s practice. And giant no till beds help as well or at least large containers 10s or bigger really.

I would love to have an actual race to yield challenge soil vs hydro one day. See if it’s really faster with same clones, same lights and setup ( give or take). Maybe I’ll convince my water buddy to try.

As of now…..It seems like a living soil bed, dialed in will out grow (not arguing flavor or quality) water growing. I’ve seen it over and over 2-3 inches a day growth. Fully mature buds up to a week faster. Don’t ask me why I just watch it happen.

I can turn a whole room in 10 weeks from clone ! What’s crazy is I can plant the exact same day of harvest with new clones. That’s 5 harvest a year. With minimal inputs and very minimal “labor”.

Not adding much to the discussion here. Just babbling. I love smoking good hydro. I think it does change the buds slightly, not in a good or bad way just different. I have a group of friends and we all grow the same cuts so we get to compare often.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Nice! Yeah Driscoll berries are pretty good. I've also smoked a lot of really good synthetically grown weed, and it can taste super clean and be real smooth. The best tasting weed I've smoked actually has been synthetic. For my job I was working on a new grow facility. I installed the grow lights so I got to talk with the head grower frequent enough, he hooked me up with some of his personal stash from his home grow. Def. some of the best weed I ever smoked, clean, smooth, and super flavorful.

I've heard that term thrown about in the past, but I think calling weed grown with salt-based fertilizers "synthetic", is really a misnomer.

 

[Star Dog]

There's group in every hobby that want to pretend they're at expert level, in this case a cannasseur lol.

It's got comedy value if nothing else.
Eta... It's down to the grower not the medium.

 

[Sparky413]

There's group in every hobby that want to pretend they're at expert level, in this case a cannasseur lol.

It's got comedy value if nothing else.
Eta... It's down to the grower not the medium.

I'm sure most of the people on these forums have been smoking weed their entire lives and we're here to discuss weed. Wouldn't that make us all cannasseur's on some level?

I've heard that term thrown about in the past, but I think calling weed grown with salt-based fertilizers "synthetic", is really a misnomer.

Agreed, I am no wordsmith.

 

[amneziaHaze]

But the passage I posted said that hydro typically grows 20% to 25% more tomatoes compared to soil, and your statement seemingly contradicts that. What sort of fruits are you speaking to which won't produce in hydro?

More than 25 i guess. From my exp with chilly i would get a shit tone of flowers but a lot would fall to the ground. Still more chillies than in soil i would get but a lot of the flowers just droped unpolinated

 

[buckaclark]

More than 25 i guess. From my exp with chilly i would get a shit tone of flowers but a lot would fall to the ground. Still more chillies than in soil i would get but a lot of the flowers just droped unpolinated

Peppers will drop flowers when over fertilization occurs.They are lighter feeders than Tomatoes.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

Imo soils best u can get for flavour and aroma done right coco is a close second if its done right of all the hydro methods i find coco done well the tastiest in my experience anyway im not big into hydro myself

Why would coco produce a "tastier" plant than any other hydro substrate?

 

[medidedicated]

Why would coco produce a "tastier" plant than any other hydro substrate?

I have to keep explaining why coco is hydro time to time. Growers in coco here kept asking me why I say hydro coco in my first few posts. I simply meant, some people mix coco with other stuff or treat it like soil so I was just clarifying that it is like sitting in water all day but with a perfect inert filler. It is for sure hydro IMO. So agreed. Might be tasting a happier plant.

 

[VeganMusic]

Why would one smoke differently?

Modern Cannabis genetics are perpetually carbon deficient (hollow stems) due to breeding for energy intense hydrocarbons coupled with poor growing practice. You see organic guys feeding barley grain in flower which has much more nitrogen than carbon, for example.

Living soil will pull all sorts of carbon from the soil that doesn't get metabolized into weed flavors. With liquids, you can chelate calcium etc with fumaric acid and get fruit flavor into the plant instead of compost flavor.


Soil growers will also burst microbes and release excess ions into the plant. AKA hydroponics. I've done experiments feeding nutrient-specific decompositions to mutant plants with no aroma metabolism and low brix/acid levels. Composted limestone stands out. It made the substrate smell like 'ions'. If you know you know. Some, but not all of the plants had that metallic minerally, cold crisp open window morning air, ion generator, static electricity smell in the resin. It was like smoking the content of an excavator bucket. In theory organic cannabis should be of such high quality that these "terroirs" should never go noticed, but they are their. Organic acid-chelated liquid ferts are cleaner.

If anyone wants to see for themselves, top dress an insane amount of bone meal to some dank mid flower. It changes the smell, for the worst, as the plant takes up carbon from the bone. If a plant will eat its own innards seeking carbon during bloom, it will eat whatever carbon it can grab from the soil.