Help me identify this please, babies are suffering :'(

kushdoctorWolf said:
So basically what I know of this ( the article I posted states the same )
By always giving your plant what she needs she becomes lazy ( always moisture )
By controlled drybacks u cause the osmotic pressure to be in optimal state, you rise the EC which can be used to our advantage and it causes for rapid growth and root expansion as they are getting slightly stressed.
Poke and push these girlies to the limit ( within reasonable terms ) and your harvest should be fruitful.
But who am I only have a bit of experience on the big farm and now started for myself first run
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Your comprehension and interpretations needs some real work. It's hard not coming off sounding like and asshole but I think you need to forget everything you think you know and go back to the drawing board. I'm afraid everyone is more stupid after reading your post.

You're reasoning is bro science at best. I haven't read this much nonsense in good while! "A little bit of experience" is just that a LITTLE bit of experience. Young folks seem to know everything from reading a couple of post on the internet these days.
 
kushdoctorWolf said:
Not following you, the osmotic pressure you mean?
I control the dryback simply by feeling the pots weight... a vwc meter would be more adequate.
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Even scale weight of a freshly watered pot would give you objective parameters of x% dry off if you are trying to control variables
 
kushdoctorWolf said:
I use the feeding schedule from athena proline and turned myself into a human irrigation system
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Im laughing at the “human irrigation system” nicely worded haha. Yea don’t be affraid to make your own EC chart. I just did with GH products. I know Athena makes you feed high ec so I am not sure how much you can mess with that but yea.
 
Herb & Suds said:
May I ask what “quite strong lights are? “
After hearing your schedule my bet is dryback is the cause for leaf damage
If I’m right it will get a lot worse in flower too
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Yea tell me about it. Also from high EC solution. Just fixed both, but way too late. Too much light.
 

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Herb & Suds said:
Looks like the classic result from dry back to me
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I used the 3x3 light when should of used the 2x2 model. Heat/light stress for sure. Foxtailing, tacos. Inner canopy looking much better. EC with tap was 1.9 mid flower and 1.7 up to start of ripe.

I am going to be more delicate next time. You totally get that work put in, back. No need to force feed it all elements. Edit: added photo, dryback indeed, setup first autofeed. Piece of cake.
 

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Wastei said:
Your comprehension and interpretations needs some real work. It's hard not coming off sounding like and asshole but I think you need to forget everything you think you know and go back to the drawing board. I'm afraid everyone is more stupid after reading your post.

You're reasoning is bro science at best. I haven't read this much nonsense in good while! "A little bit of experience" is just that a LITTLE bit of experience. Young folks seem to know everything from reading a couple of post on the internet these days.
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Lol im just saying what master growers who studied for this taught me and literally are employed by one of the biggest farms in thailand.
So instead of generalising everything and saying I have to go back to the drawing board tell me on what fronts i can improve.
just this doesn't add value :)
 
There's definitely a thing as too much dryback.
The color of my coco Is very light so maybe it confuses some of you.
I'll post a pic of dry coco vs my always sort of moist coco
 
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This is how they are doing so if you like to call it bro science it's working out alright.
Definitely not the perfect run and I'm about to get an extra AC to lock down the climate even further.
I appreciate all the advice!
 
BTW now that I'm placing the scrog i'm noticing I maybe left some unwanted side branches on some of them.
Is it too late to take em off or will they produce some alright bud?
Or am I denying the actual tops from energy and will lose a lot of end weight?
 
I’d remove the weaker ones that don’t look like they’ll keep up with the other ones. Make clones and label witch plant they from so you can use the winners from this crop for future runs
 
93OG said:
I’d remove the weaker ones that don’t look like they’ll keep up with the other ones. Make clones and label witch plant they from so you can use the winners from this crop for future runs
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Already made clones and just flipped 2 days ago so they'll be flowering clones if I do it now hehe.
But thanks for the tips I'll definitely pull em off then
 
Herb & Suds said:
Looks like the classic result from dry back to me
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kushdoctorWolf said:
Lol im just saying what master growers who studied for this taught me and literally are employed by one of the biggest farms in thailand.
So instead of generalising everything and saying I have to go back to the drawing board tell me on what fronts i can improve.
just this doesn't add value :)
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Well for starters you constantly use technical terms in the wrong context. You write that drybacks which only causes heavy EC rise and pH swings somehow is a positive marker since it "stresses the hell out of the plant"? The only result is stunted growth because optimal requirements for growth are not being met.

The plant doesn't in any way become lazy when optimal requirements are being met. Something you stated in earlier post, total nonsense. The roots die off with drybacks it doesn't cause "explosive root growth", again total nonsense.
 
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Already made clones and just flipped 2 days ago so they'll be flowering clones if I do it now hehe.
But thanks for the tips I'll definitely pull em off then
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Looks good. Doing drybacks in coco is correct in mid to late flower. In veg u can run more wet. Just what ive l been doing works for me. For indoor in thailand id say good work. Cant see that being easy to pull off, broadleaf too. If your humidity is an issue maybe quick narrow leaf types will work better. But your looking good to me.
 
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