TRUMP CONVICTED

Fogdog

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Fogdog

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I'm still boggled that Trump said this in his deposition regarding his claim that because he was a star he could grab them by the pussy. When asked if he thought it was true, he said:

“If you look over the last million years, I guess that’s been largely true,” Trump testified in his deposition. “Not always, but largely true. Unfortunately or fortunately.”

"fortunately" what the hell man?
 
cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
I'm still boggled that Trump said this in his deposition regarding his claim that because he was a star he could grab them by the pussy. When asked if he thought it was true, he said:

“If you look over the last million years, I guess that’s been largely true,” Trump testified in his deposition. “Not always, but largely true. Unfortunately or fortunately.”

"fortunately" what the hell man?
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It’s why I highlighted that phrase coupla days ago. It’s a pretty stark tell for complete sociopathic amorality.
 
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cannabineer said:
Lately, appellate courts have been quite expeditious in telling that man to pound sand. Unless it goes to one of “my judges”, and even then these things are done en banc.
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And the judge even gave Trump extra time to testify, will be hard to find grounds to overturn.

Trump calls E. Jean Carroll verdict ‘a disgrace’
Former President Trump on Tuesday called the verdict reached in the E. Jean Carroll trial a “disgrace” after a jury found him liable for sexual battery and defamation over an incident in the mid-1990s.

“I have absolutely no idea who this woman is,” Trump wrote in all capital letters on Truth Social shortly after the verdict was announced. “This verdict is a disgrace – A continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time!”

The nine-member jury found that Trump did not commit rape, but jurors found him liable for sexual abuse, another form of sexual battery. He was also ordered to pay Carroll a total of $5 million in damages.

As a civil case, Carroll had to prove her claims by a preponderance of evidence. Trump faces no related criminal charges, which would have required a higher standard.

During the nearly two-week-long trial in federal court, Carroll told jurors that Trump raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in New York City during the spring of 1996.

Trump has repeatedly denied the allegations and maintained he does not know Carroll. In a 2019 interview with The Hill shortly after Carroll first went public with her allegations, Trump claimed she was not his “type.”

Several women have come forward since Trump launched his 2016 campaign for president with allegations of sexual misconduct or inappropriate behavior. Trump has denied all of the claims.

The former president is now running for the GOP presidential nomination in 2024, where he leads his potential challengers in nearly every national poll.
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Trump calls E. Jean Carroll verdict ‘a disgrace’

Shortly after being found liable for sexual battery and defamation in the E. Jean Carroll civil trial Tuesday, former President Trump called the verdict a “disgrace.” “I have abso…
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Trump says he will appeal E. Jean Carroll case over ‘unconstitutional silencing’
Former President Trump is claiming he was silenced during the trial involving author E. Jean Carroll, who is suing the former president for sexual battery and defamation, saying that he will appeal the case over its “unconstitutional silencing.”

“Waiting for a jury decision on a False Accusation where I, despite being a current political candidate and leading all others in both parties, am not allowed to speak or defend myself, even as hard nosed reporters scream questions about this case at me. In the meantime, the other side has a book falsely accusing me of Rape, & is working with the press,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post on Tuesday.

“I will therefore not speak until after the trial, but will appeal the Unconstitutional silencing of me, as a candidate, no matter the outcome!” he added.

Judge Lewis Kaplan previously raised concerns about the former president’s public comments on the trial. A court filing by Carroll’s lawyers pointed to Kaplan’s concerns about the posts, who earlier said Trump was “basically endeavoring certainly to speak to his ‘public,’ but, more troublesome, to the jury in this case about stuff that has no business being spoken about.”

“For the reasons previously stated, we continue to object to Mr. Trump’s public statements about evidence the Court held to be inadmissible at trial and remain concerned about the prejudice that his statements may have already caused Plaintiff in these proceedings” Carroll’s lawyers wrote in the letter.

Carroll’s legal team sent the letter to Kaplan earlier this month, raising their concerns about Trump’s Truth Social posts he made during the beginning of the trial. One of the posts in question called Carroll’s lawyer a “political operative” and decried the allegations as a “fraudulent & false story.”

A separate post from Trump that Carroll’s legal team flagged questioned whether Carroll made a police report at the time, saying, “Does anybody believe that I would take a then almost 60 year old woman that I didn’t know, from the front door of a very crowded department store, (with me being very well known, to put it mildly!, into a tiny dressing room, and …. her.”

The former president was given the opportunity to defend himself in a testimony to the jury during the trial, but he did not appear. The court granted Trump three days to file a motion to reopen his case last week “for the sole purpose of testifying as a witness in this case,” but Trump ultimately missed the deadline earlier this week to do so.

Carroll has accused Trump of raping her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s and accused him of defamation over comments he made last year over her appearance and his denial of the allegations. Closing arguments in the case began on Monday, and the jury started to make its deliberations on Tuesday.

The nine-person jury on Tuesday found that while the former president did not commit rape, he was liable for sexual abuse — another form of sexual battery. This case marked the first time Trump was found liable for sexual conduct at a trial.

The jury also found that Trump defamed Carroll when he denied her allegations against him and ordered the former president to pay a total of $5 million in damages.
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Trump says he will appeal E. Jean Carroll case over ‘unconstitutional silencing’

Former President Trump claims he was wrongfully silenced during the trial involving author E. Jean Carroll, whose lawsuit against Trump concluded Tuesday with a jury finding he sexually assaulted a…
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Fogdog

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Rufus T. Firefly said:
On what grounds? I'm not an attorney but this deal seems pretty buttoned up to me.
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I'm no lawyer either and am just speculating. Still, though when has Trump NOT appealed a decision? He's been telegraphing several arguments,

I wasn't allowed to speak in my defense
The judge's behavior prejudiced the jury against me
I'm a political candidate and should not be put on trial
Executive privilege (sarcasm)

We see the courts as a place where justice is dealt as I think was done in this case. Trump uses the courts as a shield in a war of attrition and not for justice. Money gives him that privilege and he's been successful with that tactic for a long time. Is it cynical of me to view the courts as two different things depending on how wealthy a person is?
 
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Judge advises jurors in Trump-Carroll case to remain anonymous ‘for a long time’
The jurors who found that former President Trump sexually abused author E. Jean Carroll in the mid-1990s were advised to remain anonymous “for a long time.”

CNN reported that U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan informed the jurors that they could now identify themselves if they wish after they were dismissed, but advised them not to. Kaplan previously ordered an anonymous jury for the trial, saying that the jurors needed protection from harassment.

“My advice to you is not to identify yourselves. Not now and not for a long time,” Kaplan said. “If you’re one who elects to speak to others and to identify yourselves to others, I direct you not to identify anyone else who sat on this jury. Each of you owes that to the other, whatever you decided for yourself.”

Kaplan had referenced the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack and Trump’s various statements taking aim at jurors and officials involved in other cases as reasons for ordering an anonymous jury.

Shortly after the nine-person jury found Trump liable of sexual abuse and that he defamed Carroll when denying her allegations against him, Trump said that he plans to appeal the case, telling Fox News Digital that, “We’ll appeal. We got treated very badly by the Clinton-appointed judge.”
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Judge advises jurors in Trump-Carroll case to remain anonymous ‘for a long time’

The jurors who found that former President Trump sexually abused author E. Jean Carroll in the mid-1990s were advised to remain anonymous “for a long time.” CNN reported that U.S. Distr…
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