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DIY-HP-LED

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GOP blames looming shutdown on 21 Republican holdouts
House Republicans are letting loose with criticism of their GOP colleagues who voted against the conference’s short-term funding bill with just a day and a half until a government shutdown.

“There are 21 Republicans who just voted to defund the United States military and keep the border open,” said Rep. Derrick Van Orden (R-Wis.). “They need to be called out by name. I mean, this is not a Republican shutdown. This is a shutdown — if we don’t get this done soon — that is caused by 21 individual members of the Republican conference.”

The failed bill would have extended funding until Oct. 31 with spending cuts and included a swath of border policy changes, and was intended to give the House GOP leverage ahead of negotiations with the Democratic-controlled Senate and White House.

But with the failure of the bill, and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) unwilling to bring up a Senate continuing resolution, a shutdown looks likelier than ever.

Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.), a moderate, placed the blame for the looming shutdown directly on Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), one of the most prominent opponents to the stopgap who has also been threatening to vote to remove McCarthy.

“Unfortunately, a handful of people, and in particular a party of one — Matt Gaetz — have chosen to put his own agenda, his own personal agenda, above all else,” Lawler said.

“There’s only one person to blame for any potential government shutdown, and that’s Matt Gaetz,” Lawler continued. “He’s not a conservative Republican. He’s a charlatan. And as far as I’m concerned, when you’re working with Democrats to try to vacate the speaker, you’re a joke. This needs to come to an end.”

Gaetz earlier Friday denied a report he was talking to Democrats about an effort to oust McCarthy.

“I’m not doing that. That’s false,” Gaetz said.

Gaetz responded to Lawler’s comment on Rep. Andy Biggs’s podcast.

“I’ll get my blanket and curl up in the corner and, you know, call my therapist and see how to work through all of the hurt feelings,” he quipped.

Lawler, though, is not alone in specifically calling out Gaetz.

“EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT just joined Matt Gaetz and MTG for open borders and a closed government,” Rep. John James (R-Mich.) posted on X. “Democrats and the Clown Caucus care more about their fundraising goals than America’s wellbeing.”

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), one of the holdouts, echoed concerns from the others about Congress often extending funding through continuing resolutions rather than passing regular appropriations bills on time.

“I don’t think up to the deadline pressure produces good results and decades of America last policies and $33 Trillion dollars in debt is proof that Washington’s same old tricks just don’t work,” Greene posted on X.

Shortly after the failed stopgap, House Republican leaders sent out notice that there would be votes on Saturday. It is not yet clear what they will vote on.
They could have plenty of democratic votes, just throw the magats under the bus and forget the Biden impeachment, attacks on law enforcement, and get rid of the phony investigations, new committee chairs please, then they will help you to pass the senate version, already hammered out by the adults.
 

Fogdog

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They could have plenty of democratic votes, just throw the magats under the bus and forget the Biden impeachment, attacks on law enforcement, and get rid of the phony investigations, new committee chairs please, then they will help you to pass the senate version, already hammered out by the adults.
The bill McCarthy was pushing would never have cleared the Senate. I'm guessing the 21 holdouts figured it was same-same to them.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The bill McCarthy was pushing would never have cleared the Senate. I'm guessing the 21 holdouts figured it was same-same to them.
Yer less than a day away from another shut down, these dumb bastards can't even keep the lights on. Let's see how that works out for them, nobody is blaming Joe or the democrats for this fuck up. Those republicans from swing and moderate districts must be getting worried and will want to get off the crazy train. Kevin's problem is if he gets the help of the democrats to pass the spending bill and if he gets their help to stay as speaker, they will own him as much as the magats did, he will be voted out as speaker without their help. Then there is Trump and all those death threats he will get, and in a country where the insane can be easily heavily armed, such threats carry more weight.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Rep. Swalwell: Government nears a shutdown because McCarthy ‘lives in fear’

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Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) tells MSNBC’s Ali Velshi that because Donald Trump is the “number one priority” for House Republicans, the country is at risk for another federal shutdown.
 

sunni

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As someone impacted every single time they do these they literally do these government shut downs "threats" every single october, and its not just a republican problem

its both side, and they play temper tantrums until they can get their way while withholding everyones paychecks

its fucking stupid, they want to duke it out they can go ahead and do it on their dime, not mine.

the only time they actually shut down was with trump and christmas wasntvery fun for the kiddos thatyear for everyone no one caredenough to make a stink becauseit only impacted DHS and no one cares about the cg, tsa, boarder guards or people who clean the federal buildings so we missed like 3? paychecks,

this on effect's DoD so the heart strings will be pulled and theyll probably pass it like they always do right before the day its expired
 

DIY-HP-LED

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As someone impacted every single time they do these they literally do these government shut downs "threats" every single october, and its not just a republican problem

its both side, and they play temper tantrums until they can get their way while withholding everyones paychecks

its fucking stupid, they want to duke it out they can go ahead and do it on their dime, not mine.

the only time they actually shut down was with trump and christmas wasntvery fun for the kiddos thatyear for everyone no one caredenough to make a stink becauseit only impacted DHS and no one cares about the cg, tsa, boarder guards or people who clean the federal buildings so we missed like 3? paychecks,

this on effect's DoD so the heart strings will be pulled and theyll probably pass it like they always do right before the day its expired
I'm afraid in this case it is not a both sides issue, the senate has a reasonable deal passed by 80%, we know who is holding out and why, it is the usual suspects. I don't think the democrats will be blamed for this, even by a lot of people who would vote republican. If you want people's attention, go for their wallet, it is often connected to their vote.
 

sunni

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I'm afraid in this case it is not a both sides issue, the senate has a reasonable deal passed by 80%, we know who is holding out and why, it is the usual suspects. I don't think the democrats will be blamed for this, even by a lot of people who would vote republican. If you want people's attention, go for their wallet, it is often connected to their vote.
easy for people like you who arent affected on the side lines to say oh its this persons fault etc its not its both

they could easily ensure that everytime this happens people still get paid and yet they have not done that ever. they fuck with our lives every single year,
and sometimes that puts us LARGELY in debt because we dont get fucking paid.
imagine going to work and not getting fucking paid

they literally use as pawns to withhold our paychecks

I dont expect people here to get it or understand because they dont care. people do not care.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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easy for people like you who arent affected on the side lines to say oh its this persons fault etc its not its both

they could easily ensure that everytime this happens people still get paid and yet they have not done that ever. they fuck with our lives every single year,
and sometimes that puts us LARGELY in debt because we dont get fucking paid.
imagine going to work and not getting fucking paid

they literally use as pawns to withhold our paychecks

I dont expect people here to get it or understand because they dont care. people do not care.
I understand, but if the republican bill passed, school lunches and help for people you care about would be cut for good, the bill is horrific and designed not to pass. There are people playing with your lives and we know who they are, they are in the news and want to be. Don't think for a minute that if the US government shuts down that Canada won't take a pounding, but our checks will continue to come in and school lunch programs will continue to feed kids.
 

Nugnewbie

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easy for people like you who arent affected on the side lines to say oh its this persons fault etc its not its both

they could easily ensure that everytime this happens people still get paid and yet they have not done that ever. they fuck with our lives every single year,
and sometimes that puts us LARGELY in debt because we dont get fucking paid.
imagine going to work and not getting fucking paid

they literally use as pawns to withhold our paychecks

I dont expect people here to get it or understand because they dont care. people do not care.
I still don't see where the Democrats can be blamed for this shutdown. Easy to say nobody cares. Often true. Not always.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I still don't see where the Democrats can be blamed for this shutdown. Easy to say nobody cares. Often true. Not always.
It is hard not to be biased one way or another, but from my perspective and that of most US media, even foxnews, the blame rests squarely on the maga chaos caucus and Kevin McCarty who wants to be speaker at all costs. There is a deal passed by the senate already, but I also understand Trump wants a shut down and he is involved in this too, so the GOP house dances to his tune, or enough of them do.
 

printer

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easy for people like you who arent affected on the side lines to say oh its this persons fault etc its not its both

they could easily ensure that everytime this happens people still get paid and yet they have not done that ever. they fuck with our lives every single year,
and sometimes that puts us LARGELY in debt because we dont get fucking paid.
imagine going to work and not getting fucking paid

they literally use as pawns to withhold our paychecks

I dont expect people here to get it or understand because they dont care. people do not care.
Of course they are not too worried about a little pawn, they are people in power. Besides, they think your jobs should be outsourced to Mr. Musk or some other ass hole.
 

sunni

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Of course they are not too worried about a little pawn, they are people in power. Besides, they think your jobs should be outsourced to Mr. Musk or some other ass hole.
Can’t imagine the coast guard being fun under musk
 

sunni

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I’m not responding to bullshit responses where people who don’t have their pay affected think it’s ok to withhold pay
Imagine they could fight about it without withholding pay
That doesn’t make me not care about school lunches

I guess sensibility is out the window:rolleyes:
Like we actually don’t get a paycheck if it shuts down because of this

not the same as “economy in Canada taking a pounding “
 

topcat

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