Hamas offensive against Israel
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Hope Israel lets the aid get through, I can not see them not if they want US support.
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Gaza/Palestinians have not voted for their government since 2007.
Both administrations – the Fatah government in Ramallah and the Hamas government in Gaza – regarded themselves as the sole legitimate government of the Palestinian National Authority. The international community and Palestine Liberation Organization, however, recognized the Ramallah administration as the legitimate government.[citation needed]
Since the division between the two parties, there have been conflicts between Hamas and similar factions operating in Gaza, and with Israel, most notably the Gaza War of 2008–2009 and the 2014 Gaza War. The radicalization of the Gaza Strip brought internal conflicts between various groups, in events like 2009 Hamas crackdown on Jund Ansar Allah, an al-Qaeda affiliated group, resulting in 22 people killed; and the April 2011 Hamas crackdown on Jahafil Al-Tawhid Wal-Jihad fi Filastin, a Salafist group involved in Vittorio Arrigoni's murder.[8][9] Since 2015, ISIL-affiliated groups in Gaza have also become Hamas' matter of concern.
Negotiations toward reconciliation between Fatah and Hamas, which were mediated by Egypt, produced a preliminary agreement in 2011, which was supposed to be implemented by May 2012 through joint elections. Despite the peace plan, Palestinian sources were quoted in January 2012 as saying that the May joint elections "would not be possible". In February 2012, Khaled Meshal and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas signed the Hamas–Fatah Doha agreement towards implementation of the 2011 Cairo accords, though Hamas officials in the Gaza Strip expressed their discontent and "unacceptibility" of the Doha agreement. A unity government was sworn on 2 June 2014.[10] The government was supposed to exercise its functions in Gaza, or to form a government of national unity whose members would be from all Palestinian factions, including Hamas, Fatah and all other factions, and which would be responsible for Gaza and the West Bank and prepare for elections but it did not happen because of disagreements between the two parties.[11] Nevertheless, the unity government had failed to implement authority over Gaza Strip and from September 2016 Hamas gradually expanded the authority of its Deputy Minister and Director General-level positions based in Gaza, in a move widely referred as establishment of an alternative government.
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BudmanTX
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it does, looks like from the vid, it popped off in the sky before the warhead rained down and hit.....trying to get a better view of the said rocket. Since you put up the pictured of the site, the hit was infront of the cars, saw a picture with a divet of when it hit the court yard and that's not in accordance with a bomb......
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fingers crossed....
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Palestinian social media users 'shadow banned' over content
Social media users posting Palestinian content say they are being 'shadow banned from Instagram and TikTok.
But monitors say pro-Israel posts, hate speech and incitement against Arabs written in Hebrew continues unabated.
Social media users posting Palestinian content say they are being 'shadow banned from Instagram and TikTok.
But monitors say pro-Israel posts, hate speech and incitement against Arabs written in Hebrew continues unabated.
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And this is Israel's fault? And who is running the place and if they had elections before the Hamas attack, who would have been elected? If Hamas is illegitimate, then maybe Israel is doing the palestinians a favor removing them?
Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh famously pledged to live on “zeit wa zaatar”— olive oil and dried herbs — after he led the Islamic militant group to victory on a message of armed struggle and austerity during 2006 Palestinian elections.
But he has since left the impoverished Gaza Strip and, along with some other Hamas leaders, is living in luxury as he splits his time between Turkey and Qatar. With new elections planned this spring, Hamas will struggle to campaign as a scrappy underdog that is above trading its principles for material comforts.
It remains to be seen whether the elections decreed by President Mahmoud Abbas will actually be held. Much depends on whether his secular Fatah party and Hamas can reach some kind of agreement overcoming the bitter divisions that have prevented previous attempts to hold a vote.
But it’s clear that Hamas’ image among many Palestinians, even onetime supporters, has suffered since 2007, when the group seized Gaza from Abbas’ forces in a week of bloody street battles.
Since then, Hamas has established its own quasi-state with its own civil service and security forces. But it has struggled to provide even basic services with Gaza’s economy devastated by three wars with Israel and a crippling Israeli-Egyptian blockade that has confined the territory’s 2 million people to what Palestinians often refer to as the world’s largest open-air prison.
That some of its leaders have left Gaza has not helped. Hamas leaders who ascended the ranks when it was an underground militant group have traded their street clothes and motorbikes for business suits and shiny SUVs. Some, like Haniyeh, have decamped to luxury hotels in Turkey and Qatar, leaving lower-ranking officials and ordinary Palestinians to deal with the consequences of their policies.
“Every year, the situation is getting from bad to worse,” said Youssef Ahmed, who works in a food stall in an east Gaza City market. “People don’t have money to buy the basic things.”
Still, while Gazans grumble privately, they rarely speak out against Hamas, which has a history of locking up critics.
Ahmed said he blames “everyone” — Hamas, Israel and Abbas’ Palestinian Authority. But he said, as the ruling power, Hamas has a special responsibility.
Haniyeh, who became Palestinian prime minister after the 2006 election and is now the overall leader of Hamas, left Gaza in 2019 for what Hamas said was a temporary foreign tour. He has yet to return.
A recent video that surfaced on social media showed Haniyeh playing soccer on a well-groomed field beneath the glass skyscrapers of gas-rich Qatar — worlds away from the Beach Refugee Camp in Gaza City, where he was born and still maintains a family home. Another video from Monday showed him in a tailored suit surrounded by bodyguards and being welcomed by Qatari dignitaries at a red-carpet event.
In Gaza, meanwhile, Palestinians grapple with 50% unemployment, frequent power outages and polluted tap water.
That’s largely because of the blockade, which Israel says is necessary to keep Hamas from importing arms. Israel and most Western countries consider Hamas a terrorist group because it has carried out scores of attacks over the years, including suicide bombings, that killed hundreds of Israeli civilians. A long-running dispute between Hamas and Abbas’ Palestinian Authority over the provision of aid and services to Gaza has made matters worse.
Hamas blames Gaza’s suffering on the PA, Israel and the international community.
“There is a popular awareness that it’s not Hamas’ fault, and that external sides want to undermine the democratic experience,” said Hamas spokesman Hazem Qassem. He said Hamas still has “massive” popular support and would win a majority in any future election.
He added that Hamas members in Gaza had also suffered from the wars, isolation and economic collapse.
Still, the suffering is not shared equally.
Qatar has sent hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to Gaza in recent years to shore up an informal cease-fire. That money has allowed the Hamas-run government to pay its civil servants — while imposing taxes on imports, exports, businesses and tobacco that many ordinary Palestinians have resented as compounding their suffering. Hamas security forces have violently cracked down on protests against those measures.
In another example of the inequality in Gaza, a “fast track” through the Rafah crossing with Egypt — the only way most Gazans can travel into and out of the territory — is available for those who can pay high fees or have connections to Egyptian officials. In recent months, three of Haniyeh’s sons have appeared on the list, which is made public by the Hamas-run Interior Ministry. Other travelers must go through a lengthy permit process.
Ahmed Yousef, a former adviser to Haniyeh who himself has relocated to Istanbul, acknowledges the group has fallen short of its professed ideals.
“We presented ourselves as a popular movement, not an elite or factional one, so this should have obliged us to better address the people’s needs and problems,” he said.
Akram Atallah, a longtime columnist for the West Bank-based Al-Ayyam newspaper who moved from Gaza to London in 2019, said Hamas has tried to use the “duality” of being a government and a militant group to its advantage. When faulted for not providing basic services, it claims to be a resistance group; when criticized for imposing taxes, it says it’s a legitimate government, he said.
Hamas may still do well in any elections, if only because its main competitor, Fatah, has an even longer record of failure. Fatah’s upper ranks are widely seen as being filled with corrupt individuals who are more interested in enjoying the perks of VIP status with Israel than in advancing the struggle for statehood.
A December poll carried out by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research found support for the parties was close — 38% for Hamas, compared to 34% for Fatah — but predicted that Haniyeh would handily defeat Abbas in a presidential race. The group surveyed 1,270 Palestinians across the West Bank and Gaza, with a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
Assuming elections are held, “it looks like (Fatah and Hamas) will dominate the next parliament, but neither one will have a majority,” said Khalil Shikaki, the head of the center. He said independent candidates and smaller factions will win the remaining seats.
Atallah, the journalist, says Hamas is still able to appeal to “the people’s emotions,” but that the hold it once had on many has faded.
“Hamas as an authority has been exposed,” he said. “The people found out that its leaders live much better than they do.”
Tarnished by its Gaza rule, Hamas may struggle in elections
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh famously pledged to live on “zeit wa zaatar”— olive oil and dried herbs — after he led the Islamic militant group to victory on a message of armed struggle and austerity during 2006 Palestinian elections.
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k0rps
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Yes, Netanyahu's government specifically.
For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank – bringing Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group”, wrote political correspondent Tal Schneider in the Times of Israel last week. “The idea was to prevent Abbas – or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government – from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state”.
Dmitry Shumsky, a columnist for Haaretz, took a similar line, arguing that Mr Netanyahu had pursued a policy of “diplomatic paralysis” in order to avoid negotiations with the Palestinians over a two-state solution – a solution despised by the country’s extreme Right. This flawed strategy turned Hamas from “a minor terrorist group into an efficient, lethal army with bloodthirsty killers who mercilessly slaughtered innocent Israeli civilians”, said Mr Shumsky.
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The collective term for it is called "mowing the grass"
Bless their hearts <33
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Who is Israel’s far-right, pro-settler Security Minister Ben-Gvir?
Israel’s far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir has openly admitted that his right to move around unimpeded is superior to the freedom of movement for Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, sparking outrage.
“My right, the right of my wife and my children to move around Judea and Samaria is more important than freedom of movement for the Arabs,” he said in a Wednesday evening interview with Channel 12 News, using the biblical term for the occupied territory.
Directly addressing journalist Mohammad Magadli, who is a Palestinian citizen of Israel, Ben-Gvir said, “Sorry, Mohammad, but that’s the reality.”
Ben-Gvir, known for being a Palestinian-hating religious far-right provocateur, is in control of Israel’s Border Police’s division in the occupied West Bank. He lives in Kiryat Arba, one of the most radical Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank.
Under international law, settlements in occupied land are considered illegal and a huge obstacle to any notion of a two-state solution.
Ben-Gvir has been convicted several times on charges of supporting a Jewish “terrorist organisation” and of incitement to racism against Arabs and non-Jews. He is also known for his anti-LGBTQ activism.
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Israel’s far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir has openly admitted that his right to move around unimpeded is superior to the freedom of movement for Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, sparking outrage.
“My right, the right of my wife and my children to move around Judea and Samaria is more important than freedom of movement for the Arabs,” he said in a Wednesday evening interview with Channel 12 News, using the biblical term for the occupied territory.
Directly addressing journalist Mohammad Magadli, who is a Palestinian citizen of Israel, Ben-Gvir said, “Sorry, Mohammad, but that’s the reality.”
Ben-Gvir, known for being a Palestinian-hating religious far-right provocateur, is in control of Israel’s Border Police’s division in the occupied West Bank. He lives in Kiryat Arba, one of the most radical Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank.
Under international law, settlements in occupied land are considered illegal and a huge obstacle to any notion of a two-state solution.
Ben-Gvir has been convicted several times on charges of supporting a Jewish “terrorist organisation” and of incitement to racism against Arabs and non-Jews. He is also known for his anti-LGBTQ activism.
Who is Israel’s far-right, pro-settler Security Minister Ben-Gvir?
Far-right Israeli Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir has a history of making outrage-inciting comments and provoking Palestinians.
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Who lives in Palestine?
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As of mid-2023, 50% of all people in Palestine were children.
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Defining children as all those under the age of 18, in mid-2023 children were estimated to represent about 44% of the total population in Palestine (41% in the West Bank and 47% in Gaza Strip), according to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics.
In October 2023, various social media accounts claimed that half of all people in Palestine were children. "GAZA IS BEING BOMBED - ALMOST A THOUSAND CHILDREN HAVE DIED, 50% OF PALESTINIANS ARE KIDS," one post on X (formerly Twitter) read.
The post was roughly accurate. The most recent report on the Palestinian population was issued in July 2023 by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS), and read:
The Palestinian Population is Young; more than One-third of the Population is Less than 15 Years
The percentage of individuals aged (0-14) years constituted 37% of the total population in mid-2023; of whom 35% in the West Bank and 40% in Gaza Strip. The percentage of the elderly population aged (65 years and above) reached 4% of the total population; of whom 4% in the West Bank and 3% in Gaza Strip, in mid-2023.
In April 2023, on Palestinian Child Day, the PCBS published an estimated number of children, in this case defined as the portion of the population under 18, expected to inhabit Palestine by mid-2023 (emphasis ours):
The estimated number of children (under 18 years) is expected to be 2.39 million in Palestine by mid-2023; 1.22 million males and 1.17 million females. Children in Palestine represent about 44% of the total population (41% in the West Bank, and 47% in Gaza Strip).
Data from 2021 released by Save the Children, a leading humanitarian organization for children, also stated that "50% of the Palestinian population are children":
In 2021:
85 children were killed by Israeli forces.
Over 1,600 were injured and 225 detained by Israeli forces.
50% of the Palestinian population are children. That’s about 2.5 million kids across Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.
Moreover, on Oct. 13, 2023, the World Health Organization (WHO) published a statement with the title, "WHO pleads for immediate reversal of Gaza evacuation order to protect health and reduce suffering," underscoring the high number of underage Palestinians in Gaza (emphasis ours):
With ongoing airstrikes and closed borders, civilians have no safe place to go. Almost half of the population of Gaza is under 18 years of age. With dwindling supplies of safe food, clean water, health services, and without adequate shelter, children and adults, including the elderly, will all be at heightened risk of disease.
Claim:
As of mid-2023, 50% of all people in Palestine were children.
Rating:
Mostly True
Context:
Defining children as all those under the age of 18, in mid-2023 children were estimated to represent about 44% of the total population in Palestine (41% in the West Bank and 47% in Gaza Strip), according to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics.
In October 2023, various social media accounts claimed that half of all people in Palestine were children. "GAZA IS BEING BOMBED - ALMOST A THOUSAND CHILDREN HAVE DIED, 50% OF PALESTINIANS ARE KIDS," one post on X (formerly Twitter) read.
The post was roughly accurate. The most recent report on the Palestinian population was issued in July 2023 by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS), and read:
The Palestinian Population is Young; more than One-third of the Population is Less than 15 Years
The percentage of individuals aged (0-14) years constituted 37% of the total population in mid-2023; of whom 35% in the West Bank and 40% in Gaza Strip. The percentage of the elderly population aged (65 years and above) reached 4% of the total population; of whom 4% in the West Bank and 3% in Gaza Strip, in mid-2023.
In April 2023, on Palestinian Child Day, the PCBS published an estimated number of children, in this case defined as the portion of the population under 18, expected to inhabit Palestine by mid-2023 (emphasis ours):
The estimated number of children (under 18 years) is expected to be 2.39 million in Palestine by mid-2023; 1.22 million males and 1.17 million females. Children in Palestine represent about 44% of the total population (41% in the West Bank, and 47% in Gaza Strip).
Data from 2021 released by Save the Children, a leading humanitarian organization for children, also stated that "50% of the Palestinian population are children":
In 2021:
85 children were killed by Israeli forces.
Over 1,600 were injured and 225 detained by Israeli forces.
50% of the Palestinian population are children. That’s about 2.5 million kids across Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.
Moreover, on Oct. 13, 2023, the World Health Organization (WHO) published a statement with the title, "WHO pleads for immediate reversal of Gaza evacuation order to protect health and reduce suffering," underscoring the high number of underage Palestinians in Gaza (emphasis ours):
With ongoing airstrikes and closed borders, civilians have no safe place to go. Almost half of the population of Gaza is under 18 years of age. With dwindling supplies of safe food, clean water, health services, and without adequate shelter, children and adults, including the elderly, will all be at heightened risk of disease.
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Scotland’s first minister says country willing to take Gaza refugees
Scotland’s first minister Humza Yousaf said Scotland is willing to take Gaza refugees amid the war between Hamas and Israel.
Yousaf noted in a recent speech that his wife, Nadia El-Nakla, is Scottish-Palestinian and has family living in Gaza.
“So, many of them don’t want to leave and neither they should have to leave but for the million that have been displaced just in this current conflict, for those that want to leave, there should be a worldwide refugee scheme,” Yousaf said in a video posted to X. “Because of the numbers, the world should be involved.”
Yousaf called upon countries in the Middle East, Asia, Europe, the United Kingdom and America should open their doors to refugees from Gaza.
“Let’s say that Scotland will be a place of sanctuary for them as we have shown that kindness and compassion for others. Let us show it once again and this time for the people of Gaza,” Yousaf said.
Scotland is willing to lead the way for the rest of the UK, Yousaf noted.
“And Scotland is willing to be the first country in the UK to take those refugees,” he said.
In a separate video, Yousaf said Scotland’s hospitals will care for people in Gaza who have been injured in the war. The first minister said he is calling on the UK government to “begin work on the creation of a refugee resettlement scheme for those in Gaza who want to, and of course are able to, leave.”
He also urged the UK government to support the medical evacuation of injured civilians in Gaza.
Jordan and Egypt have said they are unwilling to accept Palestinian refugees amid the war. In the U.S., former President Trump and Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) have both said the U.S. should not accept refugees from Gaza. DeSantis said not all Gaza residents are Hamas members, but they “are all antisemitic.” Trump vowed to implement ideological screening for those wishing to enter the U.S. if he is reelected.
According to a recent poll, most Americans said they want the U.S. to help civilians in Gaza get out of harm’s way.
Several Democratic lawmakers have called on President Biden to urge Israel to protect Gaza civilians after hundreds were killed in an explosion in a Gaza hospital.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) told CNN that she thinks the region’s partners should help Palestinian refugees but that the U.S. should acknowledge its “historic role” in accepting refugees.
Similarly, Rep. Jamal Bowman (D-N.Y.) told The New York Post that the United States “should be prepared to welcome refugees from Palestine,” while making sure none of them are members of Hamas.
Biden arrived in Tel Aviv to speak with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and show support for Israel amid rising international tensions. Biden announced Wednesday a $100 million humanitarian aid package for the civilians in Gaza, backed by Israel.
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Scotland’s first minister Humza Yousaf said Scotland is willing to take Gaza refugees amid the war between Hamas and Israel.
Yousaf noted in a recent speech that his wife, Nadia El-Nakla, is Scottish-Palestinian and has family living in Gaza.
“So, many of them don’t want to leave and neither they should have to leave but for the million that have been displaced just in this current conflict, for those that want to leave, there should be a worldwide refugee scheme,” Yousaf said in a video posted to X. “Because of the numbers, the world should be involved.”
Yousaf called upon countries in the Middle East, Asia, Europe, the United Kingdom and America should open their doors to refugees from Gaza.
“Let’s say that Scotland will be a place of sanctuary for them as we have shown that kindness and compassion for others. Let us show it once again and this time for the people of Gaza,” Yousaf said.
Scotland is willing to lead the way for the rest of the UK, Yousaf noted.
“And Scotland is willing to be the first country in the UK to take those refugees,” he said.
In a separate video, Yousaf said Scotland’s hospitals will care for people in Gaza who have been injured in the war. The first minister said he is calling on the UK government to “begin work on the creation of a refugee resettlement scheme for those in Gaza who want to, and of course are able to, leave.”
He also urged the UK government to support the medical evacuation of injured civilians in Gaza.
Jordan and Egypt have said they are unwilling to accept Palestinian refugees amid the war. In the U.S., former President Trump and Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) have both said the U.S. should not accept refugees from Gaza. DeSantis said not all Gaza residents are Hamas members, but they “are all antisemitic.” Trump vowed to implement ideological screening for those wishing to enter the U.S. if he is reelected.
According to a recent poll, most Americans said they want the U.S. to help civilians in Gaza get out of harm’s way.
Several Democratic lawmakers have called on President Biden to urge Israel to protect Gaza civilians after hundreds were killed in an explosion in a Gaza hospital.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) told CNN that she thinks the region’s partners should help Palestinian refugees but that the U.S. should acknowledge its “historic role” in accepting refugees.
Similarly, Rep. Jamal Bowman (D-N.Y.) told The New York Post that the United States “should be prepared to welcome refugees from Palestine,” while making sure none of them are members of Hamas.
Biden arrived in Tel Aviv to speak with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and show support for Israel amid rising international tensions. Biden announced Wednesday a $100 million humanitarian aid package for the civilians in Gaza, backed by Israel.
Scotland’s first minister says country willing to take Gaza refugees
Scotland’s First Minister Humza Yousaf said the U.K. country is willing to take Gaza refugees amid the war between Hamas and Israel. Yousaf noted in a recent speech that his wife, Nadia El-Nakla, i…
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i just listened to that....
k0rps
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The Israeli army released a video showing spokesperson Daniel Hagari translating a recording of a conversation between purported Hamas officials, where they appear to talk about the misfired rocket that had caused the hospital blast.
To some, it seemed too neat. As one journalist later asked Hagari: “I’d like you to address the question of credibility, because … the [Israeli army] has a less than perfect track record with the issue of credibility”.
In his response, Hagari admitted that the military had lied before, but that now was different.
Why the scepticism?
Many are inclined to disbelieve the Israeli government and army since the death of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh. The Israeli government first denied any role in her death. Then, after multiple independent investigations confirmed that only an Israeli soldier could have killed her, the country’s government conceded that she likely did die from an Israeli shot.
Assassinated in May 2022, while reporting on Israeli incursions into the Jenin refugee camp, the veteran Palestinian-American journalist was shot in the head by a soldier.
At the time, Naftali Bennett, then the prime minister of Israel, responded with an online message, accusing Palestinians of her murder. “According to the information we have gathered, it appears likely that armed Palestinians – who were firing indiscriminately at the time – were responsible for the unfortunate death of the journalist,” he said.
Later, the Israeli military said there was a “high possibility” that slain Abu Akleh was “accidentally hit” by Israeli army fire. However, it decided not to pursue a criminal investigation into her death. This month, a report from a UN-mandated investigative body said Israeli forces used “lethal force without justification” when they shot and killed the journalist, violating her “right to life”.
Scepticism is also fuelled by the ruthlessness of the Israeli attacks on the besieged population of Gaza. At 7pm on October 17, shortly before the blast, Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel’s minister of national security, had said on X: “As long as Hamas does not release the hostages in its hands – the only thing that needs to enter Gaza are hundreds of tons of explosives from the Air Force, not an ounce of humanitarian aid.”
How has the narrative shifted since the Gaza hospital explosion?
Denials of responsibility and deleted social media posts arouse suspicion around Israel’s view of the attack.
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Hananya Naftali’s hospital tweet
On Tuesday (October 17), the social media star claimed that Israel was to blame for the blast at the Gaza hospital.
“BREAKING: Israeli Air Force struck a Hamas terrorist base inside a hospital in Gaza. A multiple number of terrorists are dead,” he wrote. "It’s heartbreaking that Hamas is launching rockets from hospitals, Mosques, schools, and using civilians as human shields.”
Palestinian officials say it was caused by an Israeli air strike, the BBC reports. However, Israel’s military claims it was the result of a failed rocket launch by Palestinian Islamic Jihad – which the group has denied. Naftali is an Israeli human rights activist with more than 350,000 followers and has been continuously tweeting about the conflict.
He describes himself as: “That Israeli who talks to the camera about peace in the Middle East.”
Following the uproar, Naftali quickly apologised on Twitter, claiming he was simply quoting an article he had seen on Reuters.
“Earlier today I shared a report that was published on Reuters about the bombing at the hospital in Gaza which falsely stated Israel struck the hospital,” he wrote.
“I mistakenly shared this information in a since deleted post in which I referenced Hamas’ routine use of hospitals to store weapons caches and conduct terrorist activity.”
He said “I apologize for this error” and added: “As the IDF does not bomb hospitals, I assumed Israel was targeting one of the Hamas bases in Gaza.”
“It is known that Hamas is using civilians as human shields, it is a war crime and a crime against humanity. This should be the focus.”
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Where is the proof "Hamas is using Human Shields"???
On Tuesday (October 17), the social media star claimed that Israel was to blame for the blast at the Gaza hospital.
“BREAKING: Israeli Air Force struck a Hamas terrorist base inside a hospital in Gaza. A multiple number of terrorists are dead,” he wrote. "It’s heartbreaking that Hamas is launching rockets from hospitals, Mosques, schools, and using civilians as human shields.”
Palestinian officials say it was caused by an Israeli air strike, the BBC reports. However, Israel’s military claims it was the result of a failed rocket launch by Palestinian Islamic Jihad – which the group has denied. Naftali is an Israeli human rights activist with more than 350,000 followers and has been continuously tweeting about the conflict.
He describes himself as: “That Israeli who talks to the camera about peace in the Middle East.”
Following the uproar, Naftali quickly apologised on Twitter, claiming he was simply quoting an article he had seen on Reuters.
“Earlier today I shared a report that was published on Reuters about the bombing at the hospital in Gaza which falsely stated Israel struck the hospital,” he wrote.
“I mistakenly shared this information in a since deleted post in which I referenced Hamas’ routine use of hospitals to store weapons caches and conduct terrorist activity.”
He said “I apologize for this error” and added: “As the IDF does not bomb hospitals, I assumed Israel was targeting one of the Hamas bases in Gaza.”
“It is known that Hamas is using civilians as human shields, it is a war crime and a crime against humanity. This should be the focus.”
Israeli influencer apologises for Gaza hospital misinformation as blast kills hundreds
Israeli influencer Hananya Naftali has apologised after a tweet he shared about the hospital blast in Gaza City contained misinformation.
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Where is the proof "Hamas is using Human Shields"???
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Hananya Naftali, Israeli digital influencer, has been called from the front line to the "digital warfare front". Here is an Instagram video of him sharing..
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Hananya Naftali on Instagram: "I have been called up from the frontline to another front - the digital war. So from now on, I am back - to fight this war between good and evil. It’s unbelievable that even in days like this, Israel is expected to explain itself. We are defending our homes and our families. #IsraelUnderAttack #IsraelUnderFire"
23K likes, 1,727 comments - hnaftali on October 14, 2023: "I have been called up from the frontline to another front - the digital war. So from now on, I am back - to fight this war between good...".
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Might be too neat, but a broken clock is right twice a day. With all the other pieces of evidence is sure does not seem like a Israeli hit.The Israeli army released a video showing spokesperson Daniel Hagari translating a recording of a conversation between purported Hamas officials, where they appear to talk about the misfired rocket that had caused the hospital blast.
To some, it seemed too neat. As one journalist later asked Hagari: “I’d like you to address the question of credibility, because … the [Israeli army] has a less than perfect track record with the issue of credibility”.
In his response, Hagari admitted that the military had lied before, but that now was different.
Why the scepticism?
Many are inclined to disbelieve the Israeli government and army since the death of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh. The Israeli government first denied any role in her death. Then, after multiple independent investigations confirmed that only an Israeli soldier could have killed her, the country’s government conceded that she likely did die from an Israeli shot.
Assassinated in May 2022, while reporting on Israeli incursions into the Jenin refugee camp, the veteran Palestinian-American journalist was shot in the head by a soldier.
At the time, Naftali Bennett, then the prime minister of Israel, responded with an online message, accusing Palestinians of her murder. “According to the information we have gathered, it appears likely that armed Palestinians – who were firing indiscriminately at the time – were responsible for the unfortunate death of the journalist,” he said.
Later, the Israeli military said there was a “high possibility” that slain Abu Akleh was “accidentally hit” by Israeli army fire. However, it decided not to pursue a criminal investigation into her death. This month, a report from a UN-mandated investigative body said Israeli forces used “lethal force without justification” when they shot and killed the journalist, violating her “right to life”.
Scepticism is also fuelled by the ruthlessness of the Israeli attacks on the besieged population of Gaza. At 7pm on October 17, shortly before the blast, Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel’s minister of national security, had said on X: “As long as Hamas does not release the hostages in its hands – the only thing that needs to enter Gaza are hundreds of tons of explosives from the Air Force, not an ounce of humanitarian aid.”
How has the narrative shifted since the Gaza hospital explosion?
Denials of responsibility and deleted social media posts arouse suspicion around Israel’s view of the attack.
k0rps
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I remember you mentioning the video from a post Israel was deleted because of mismatched timestamps.. here is a screenshot of their post
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Mephisto666
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The UN is a "Satanic entity" states the Ambassador from Israel.
I'm surprised he didn't accuse them of being anti semitic also.
But, but, but, they are worse than us, they cry!!!
Actually, no they aren't, just count the dead at the end of this war.
You will win, no doubt about that.
So, that's the reason you are trying to kill every Palestinian that breathes.
After all, anyone that holds Israel responsible for their crimes is anti-Semitic, right?
Damn, I'm tired of that excuse which they have used endlessly since the beginning of time it seems.
I wonder why?
Watch this, it's worth it. (this is the one I meant to post, not The day after tomorrow
)
I'm surprised he didn't accuse them of being anti semitic also.
But, but, but, they are worse than us, they cry!!!
Actually, no they aren't, just count the dead at the end of this war.
You will win, no doubt about that.
So, that's the reason you are trying to kill every Palestinian that breathes.
After all, anyone that holds Israel responsible for their crimes is anti-Semitic, right?
Damn, I'm tired of that excuse which they have used endlessly since the beginning of time it seems.
I wonder why?
Watch this, it's worth it. (this is the one I meant to post, not The day after tomorrow
)
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