Examples of GOP Leadership

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And a big Fuck You to you.

Hunter Biden appears at Capitol, defies subpoena from House Republicans
After weeks of back and forth and a threat to hold him in contempt of Congress, Hunter Biden briefly appeared in the Capitol complex on Wednesday, making a public statement outside the building instead of showing for his scheduled deposition following a subpoena from House Republicans.
Hunter Biden railed against the investigation from House Republicans, blasting the probe ahead of a vote to ignite an impeachment inquiry into his father, President Biden.

He said he was at the Capitol to testify in a public setting — bucking investigators’ request for a closed-door deposition.
“For six years, I’ve been the target of the unrelenting Trump attack machine shouting. ‘Where’s Hunter?’” Hunter Biden said in a statement to reporters. “Well, here’s my answer. I am here.”
“Let me state as clearly as I can: My father was not financially involved in my business — Not as a practicing lawyer. Not as a board member of Burisma, not in my partnership with a Chinese private businessman, not my investment at all nor abroad, and certainly not as an artist,” he said, running through a number of key aspects of the GOP probes.
“There’s no evidence to support the allegations that my father was financially involved in my business, because it did not happen,” Biden added.
Defying the subpoena runs the risk Republicans will hold him in contempt of Congress — one that would add to the mounting legal trouble faced by the president’s son.
“My expectation is that we will hold him in contempt,” Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said shortly after Hunter Biden’s remarks.

The House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) and House Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) had moved to compel Hunter Biden’s testimony as they push forward with an impeachment inquiry into his father, President Biden.
Hunter Biden’s appearance in the Capitol complex at all is a milestone in the long Republican scrutiny of his business activities and tumultuous personal life — and comes on the same day that Republicans are set to formally authorize their impeachment inquiry with a House vote.
Before Wednesday morning, lawmakers were not sure whether Biden would show up to the deposition. His lawyer, Abbe Lowell, had responded to the subpoena with an offer for Hunter Biden to appear before the Oversight panel in a public format, but not a closed-door deposition.

Lowell had charged that Republicans “use closed-door sessions to manipulate, even distort the facts and misinform the public,” and to previous public statements from Comer appearing to express support for seeing Biden in a public format.
Republicans dismissed the offer, threatening to hold Biden in contempt of Congress if he did not show up for the deposition.
Comer had offered a public hearing at a later date and said that he would release the transcript from the deposition, but argued that closed-door format with the committee methodically asking questions was necessary before bringing Biden before a public hearing — which would involve five-minute questioning time for members bouncing from Republicans to Democrats.

The House GOP’s multi-pronged impeachment probe is digging into hotly disputed allegations about whether President Biden improperly benefited from or used policy to benefit the foreign business dealings of family members, as well as allegations that the Department of Justice improperly slow-walked a tax crimes investigation into Hunter Biden. The president and the White House have repeatedly denied wrongdoing and said that Biden was not involved in his family’s business dealings.
The deposition also came at an inopportune time in Hunter Biden’s broader legal troubles, as he was indicted just last week on tax charges that are among the topics congressional investigators wish to discuss, alongside a now-evaporated plea deal that would have had him plead guilty to misdemeanor tax charges.
But any comments he makes in the deposition could be used against him in court – adding greater risk to a case where he already faces up to 17 years in prison.
 

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Some sanity from across the aisle.

GOP senator says Biden can’t be impeached for pre-presidential actions
Republican Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) is warning House Republicans that President Biden could not be impeached and removed from office for any conduct or crimes committed before he was elected president in 2020.

Mullin’s statement in an interview with Newsmax pours cold water on a House GOP investigation into Biden’s family’s business dealings, particularly Hunter Biden’s work with foreign companies, while Biden was vice president during the Obama administration and immediately after.

He warned that any high crime or misdemeanor that may serve as the basis for articles of impeachment “has to be committed while he was in office, the current office he holds.”

“So what he did as vice president, what he did in between the two [offices] may not be impeachable,” he said during an interview on Newsmax’s “Wake Up America.”

“If they send us a case, make sure it’s convictable,” Mullin advised. “The bar’s real high, there’s no question about it.”

Many Senate Republicans, including Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), voted to acquit former President Trump on the impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection against the United States on Jan. 6, 2021, on the technical grounds that he was no longer in office once the Senate tried him in February of that year.

Mullin made his statement two days after the House voted along party lines, 221-212, to approve a resolution authorizing a formal impeachment inquiry of Biden and whether he benefited improperly from his son Hunter’s business dealings with foreign entities.

Hunter Biden declared in a defiant news conference outside the Capitol Wednesday morning that his father was not financially involved in his business.

He said his father was not involved in his work as a practicing lawyer, as a board member of Ukrainian energy company Burisma, or in his partnership with a Chinese private businessman.

A timeline of what House GOP investigators call “the Biden’s influence peddling” focuses on events that took place between 2014 and 2017, while Joe Biden was vice president and shortly after he left that office.

Other Republican senators, including Senate Republican Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a member of the leadership team, have warned House investigators that there’s little to no chance of convicting Biden in a Democratic-controlled Senate.

Convicting Biden and removing him from office would require 67 votes, which means at least 18 Democrats would have to vote for conviction to produce a result.
 

Bagginski

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This is EXACTLY what GOP did to HRC, first w/ Watergate, then w/ Benghazi. They’ve been completely brazen about it, then and now…and *NONE* of the playtriots has called them out for their obvious misuse & corruption or for their unabashedly partisan combat tactics…and this from a congress that it’s the least productive in US history, second only to Herbert Hoover’s last year in office: barring the renaming of things, they’ve turned out 19 successful legislative efforts to address the people’s business, where Hoover’s delivered 21 pieces of signed legislation.

And in only three months (they took the rest of the year off!)

I’d love to know that Hoover refused to pay his Congress a full salary after taking 9 months off; that would be downright…Republican
 

Bagginski

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Some sanity from across the aisle.

GOP senator says Biden can’t be impeached for pre-presidential actions
Republican Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) is warning House Republicans that President Biden could not be impeached and removed from office for any conduct or crimes committed before he was elected president in 2020.

Mullin’s statement in an interview with Newsmax pours cold water on a House GOP investigation into Biden’s family’s business dealings, particularly Hunter Biden’s work with foreign companies, while Biden was vice president during the Obama administration and immediately after.

He warned that any high crime or misdemeanor that may serve as the basis for articles of impeachment “has to be committed while he was in office, the current office he holds.”

“So what he did as vice president, what he did in between the two [offices] may not be impeachable,” he said during an interview on Newsmax’s “Wake Up America.”

“If they send us a case, make sure it’s convictable,” Mullin advised. “The bar’s real high, there’s no question about it.”

Many Senate Republicans, including Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), voted to acquit former President Trump on the impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection against the United States on Jan. 6, 2021, on the technical grounds that he was no longer in office once the Senate tried him in February of that year.

Mullin made his statement two days after the House voted along party lines, 221-212, to approve a resolution authorizing a formal impeachment inquiry of Biden and whether he benefited improperly from his son Hunter’s business dealings with foreign entities.

Hunter Biden declared in a defiant news conference outside the Capitol Wednesday morning that his father was not financially involved in his business.

He said his father was not involved in his work as a practicing lawyer, as a board member of Ukrainian energy company Burisma, or in his partnership with a Chinese private businessman.

A timeline of what House GOP investigators call “the Biden’s influence peddling” focuses on events that took place between 2014 and 2017, while Joe Biden was vice president and shortly after he left that office.

Other Republican senators, including Senate Republican Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a member of the leadership team, have warned House investigators that there’s little to no chance of convicting Biden in a Democratic-controlled Senate.

Convicting Biden and removing him from office would require 67 votes, which means at least 18 Democrats would have to vote for conviction to produce a result.
Yes, yes, it’s a fishing expedition, we’ve always known it was a fishing expedition…as I just mentioned

This is a major piece of the apparent GOP strategy these last 20+ years: screw things up structurally, blame Dems for GOP policy outcomes, subject high-profile Dems with futures to months of character assassination by baseless charges, manufactured timelines, & a partisan resistance to responding to reason & fact
 

Fogdog

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Fogdog

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I'm finding this fascinating. This guy is OG! ;)

Mike Johnson sounds a bit dangerous according to this guy.

I only made it through the first 30 or so minutes not because I found it uninteresting or too hypothetical, I found it very informative. Do I agree because it confirms my own bias? I don't think so, because the speaker spoke from a base of personal experience. He said that Speaker Johnson is an insider of a sect in the white nationalist evangelical movement that was too extreme even for his own religious extremist father. His description of what Johnson advocates is in line with what other far right leaders are saying today. That the US should not be a democracy but a Republic that is run by people who answer only to God as they interpret that God to be. They do not think that the majority should have the right to expand civil rights of others in our society and only those with the correct views should hold that power, no matter how small their numbers are. Given a chance, they would tear this country apart but, you know, kill the person in order to save their soul and all of that.

I hope others manage to plow through the dryness of the presentation because what he's saying, people should know about.
 

CCGNZ

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I only made it through the first 30 or so minutes not because I found it uninteresting or too hypothetical, I found it very informative. Do I agree because it confirms my own bias? I don't think so, because the speaker spoke from a base of personal experience. He said that Speaker Johnson is an insider of a sect in the white nationalist evangelical movement that was too extreme even for his own religious extremist father. His description of what Johnson advocates is in line with what other far right leaders are saying today. That the US should not be a democracy but a Republic that is run by people who answer only to God as they interpret that God to be. They do not think that the majority should have the right to expand civil rights of others in our society and only those with the correct views should hold that power, no matter how small their numbers are. Given a chance, they would tear this country apart but, you know, kill the person in order to save their soul and all of that.

I hope others manage to plow through the dryness of the presentation because what he's saying, people should know about.
True, I find the entwining of this far right religious fervor and politics more than frightening,I'm certainly no theologian but isn't Christianity generally teaching a live and let live philosophy. I'm pretty sure it doesn't advocate imposing one's will upon others. Seems that rather than using the 10 Commandments as a general reference point these Evangelicals search for Old Testament minutae to forge radical beliefs. If that is what you believe then live it,trying to force it on others is a fools game.The founders of the Constitution were wise enough to know that religion/politics was a clusterFK and the beliefs of this tiny % of the population getting closer to this goal indicates a system in peril.
 

H G Griffin

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,I'm certainly no theologian but isn't Christianity generally teaching a live and let live philosophy.
Since the beginning of humanity, there have been those who invent a greater power to justify their own desires.


I grew up in a bible thumping house. I left religion because the actions I saw by christians had nothing to do with the teachings of christ that I read in the bible.

The christ that threw the money lenders out of the temple would have lost his shit over the things done today in his name.
 

BudmanTX

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I'm certainly no theologian but isn't Christianity generally teaching a live and let live philosophy.
in general.....most people think Christ (the man) was teach something so simply that it got out of hand....it was the idea of cause and effect...aka do unto other as they do to you
 
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