Months of work for nothing . All of it garbage

pegboy

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Just spent months tending to my first 4 plants . All garbage . Not a single freakin bud that looks good , smells good , related anything even similar to a dispensary bud . So much time and reading for all this just for junk . What a waste of my time. And the worst part I don't even know what I did wrong . I did it all by the text book . Maybe my light is too garbage to produce anything good.. tsw 2000 . Not a single nice bud that if I owned a dispensary i would put on the shelf . Pure loose leaf garbage smelling trash
.I give up. Here are some of the nicer buds in the bag . Top colas . Skittlez auto I'm literally fed up enough throw the entire garbage bag out and give up. It's all loose , smells like fucking hay . Just trash waste of my time ..almost the plants.. rntz made some nice buds but overall small . All flat, not dense , odorless
The textbook techniques all across the interweb in my opinion always want to push the extremes. Max nutes,,,,,,Max light...Max defoliation etc etc. The key to producing some top shelf buds is simply keeping your plants happy. To me that means pretty much less of everything. We don't need to blitz our plants with nutrients. We don't need to zap them with too much light. We don't need to strip all of the leaves off. Cannabis is just the same as any other plant. Just keep them happy and don't kill them with kindness. keep this in mind and I bet your next grow is miles better.
 
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wallywonks

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Just spent months tending to my first 4 plants . All garbage . Not a single freakin bud that looks good , smells good , related anything even similar to a dispensary bud . So much time and reading for all this just for junk . What a waste of my time. And the worst part I don't even know what I did wrong . I did it all by the text book . Maybe my light is too garbage to produce anything good.. tsw 2000 . Not a single nice bud that if I owned a dispensary i would put on the shelf . Pure loose leaf garbage smelling trash
.I give up. Here are some of the nicer buds in the bag . Top colas . Skittlez auto I'm literally fed up enough throw the entire garbage bag out and give up. It's all loose , smells like fucking hay . Just trash waste of my time ..almost the plants.. rntz made some nice buds but overall small . All flat, not dense , odorless
What type of soil did you use? Did you add Earthworm Castings or other compost to the soil? Did you add organic dertilizers like Crustacean Meal, Kelp Meal, Neem Seed Meal etc.? How many watts is your LED light and what is the brand name?

Did you use an exhaust fan and passive air intake from the vents at the bottom of the tent?

Also genetics play a role. Who did you buy the seeds from and what strain? Certain breeders sell better seeds that produce fire.

I have grown over 25 plants in the past 3 yrs. I have been doing different breeders each grow as well. I have even grown a few experimental plants from seeds i got while trimming and drying that were either from a plant going hermy or from self pollination feminized seeds.

Only 1 of the plants produced sub par potency and that was a Bruce Banner from Greybeard Seeds. My friend said it was more like CBD and not THC. He likes the energy type highs and I let that plant mature a lot longer then I should have. So it was most likely my fault not the breeders quality.

Expert Seeds, Seedsman, TH Seeds, Sweet Seeds, ILGM, Brothers Grimm have produced me very fire plants that my friend said was better than the dispensaries he got from.

I do organic homemade soil. I bought Canadian Peat Moss, Coco Coir, Perlite, and used either Earthworm Poop or Rabbit Manure for compost.
They love rabbit manure and you can buy that on Etsy or Ebay. You can usually get a decent price on there.

I usually use this formula.
PER CUBIC FOOT (7.5 gallons)

25% Peat Moss
25% Coco Coir
30% Perlite
20% Compost (Usually 10% Earthworm Poop and 10% Rabbit Manure)

I add to this:
PER CUBIC FOOT (7.5 gallons)

1 cup Dolomite Lime
1 cup Gypsum (get the one in the garden center its sold for use for tomatoes and roses.)
2 cups of either Basalt Rock Dust or Azomite

3 cups of organic fertilizer
PER CUBIC FOOT (7.5 gallons)

1/2c Crustacean Meal (Crab or Shrimp Meal or combination of the two)
1/2c Neem Seed Meal
1 cup Kelp Meal
1 cup Dr, Earth Tomato and Herb fertilizer (you can use Epsom or another brand that similar NPK)

I have used Bat Guano and other types of Organic fertilizer and they work well but you have to let the soil sit and cook for like a month before transplating your seedlings into it. You can also use Fox Farm Ocean Forest but I usually get fungus gnats and have to use yellow sticky sheets in my tent and in the pots to control them. But there are other brands that people use. Try to avoid Miracle Grow or others that have long term release Nitrogen in it. The backs of the bags will tell you what they put in it.

This recipe all you need to do is use plain water and PH your water to 6.2 to 6,8 try to get close to 6.5.
Then when you flip your light schedule if your doing Photoperiods you can give them a Bloom boost feed around week 2 after light schedule change. You can use Dr. Earth Bud and Bloom ferts or Alaskan Fish Morbloom for the PK boost. Around 700 to 1000 ppm feed should be good.

Ive been using fabric pots either 5 gallon or 7 gallon. Autos I use 3 or 5 gallon depending on flower length by breeder specs.

I use a 400W Mars Hydro TS3000. Recently I bought a P2000 from Viparspectra for my 2X4 closet tent and noticed that the light makes the flowers turn fall colors real nice cause the parts not hitting the lights were more green. So different LED lights can do different things. Something else I am just recently learning. I got that light on sale in November for $90 on Amazon.

I keep my temps around 75 to 80F during Veg and flower when lights are on and 68 to 75F when lights are off.
In vegetative stage I keep my humidity around 60 to 65%. Then a few weeks after flipping lights and buds start to look like little snowballs I drop humidity to 50-55% then when buds are bigger it goes down to 45-50% till harvest.
Never had bud rot or powdery mildew.

My first grow I grew seeds from ILGM and the Super Skunk was very potent and trippy like. The White Widow autos which 1 I nuked still gave a 50/50 head body high.

Here are some pics of my flowers right before harvest.



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sfw1960

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Don't be discouraged mate, Its happened to all of us.
Ive just made the change from outdoor to indoor growing and its been such a learning curve.
Start with some good genetics, a good grow medium and a little love.
Be patient.
EXACTLY!

There's a lot of knowledgeable and caring people here that can help you with your stuff. I've been messing with it since the 70's and have made about every mistake you can dream up. I've got a few that are big with dense stuff and they don't have much frost or smell but I was trying to save them when a problem started right after flower started.
Only 3 people counting my wife have seen how ugly they are and I'm probably going to use them for edibles if they don't have any other surprises when I take em down ...

NEVER EVER EVER give up!!!!!!
 

DirtyJerzey

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Don't give up or get discouraged my man! Many still consider that a successful grow! I smoked my garbage for eons as i learned. Tasted bad, looked decent, but my dry and cure was always rushed. But you know what!? I wasn't spending money on weed anymore! Sure i treated myself occasionally with some high grade, but just kept at it. Now I wouldnt have it any other way. Its all a learning process.
And you know what? Even when your at the point where your satisfied and confident, somethings going to happen that you never thought of. Just the next phase in your learning journey. Its extremely easy to grow weed that was popular in the 70's. Old heads will love it, modern times have shunned that OG shwag. Shit was pioneering at the time, just look at some of those photos. Your already ahead of that.
 

conor c

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Never give up and your weed should improve every grow that lil bit op its a learning curve it dont happen overnight most fuck it up the first few times my errors were letting plants get 7 foot tall for example and using canna flush there nutes are ok but for the love of god dont use that shit it just ruins it it tastes minty and weird eww even thinking of it i can taste and smell it still lol point is persist and never be happy completely with what you got either cos you can always do better next time keep that way of thinking and you will do well plus it is worth remembering most new growers try to do too much at once or bite off more than they can chew ime that or they kill it with love so to speak
 

Kindbud421

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Don't give up or get discouraged my man! Many still consider that a successful grow! I smoked my garbage for eons as i learned. Tasted bad, looked decent, but my dry and cure was always rushed. But you know what!? I wasn't spending money on weed anymore! Sure i treated myself occasionally with some high grade, but just kept at it. Now I wouldnt have it any other way. Its all a learning process.
And you know what? Even when your at the point where your satisfied and confident, somethings going to happen that you never thought of. Just the next phase in your learning journey. Its extremely easy to grow weed that was popular in the 70's. Old heads will love it, modern times have shunned that OG shwag. Shit was pioneering at the time, just look at some of those photos. Your already ahead of that.
Ditto on that!
 

Richard Drysift

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Just spent months tending to my first 4 plants . All garbage . Not a single freakin bud that looks good , smells good , related anything even similar to a dispensary bud . So much time and reading for all this just for junk . What a waste of my time. And the worst part I don't even know what I did wrong . I did it all by the text book . Maybe my light is too garbage to produce anything good.. tsw 2000 . Not a single nice bud that if I owned a dispensary i would put on the shelf . Pure loose leaf garbage smelling trash
.I give up. Here are some of the nicer buds in the bag . Top colas . Skittlez auto I'm literally fed up enough throw the entire garbage bag out and give up. It's all loose , smells like fucking hay . Just trash waste of my time ..almost the plants.. rntz made some nice buds but overall small . All flat, not dense , odorless
We told you what you did wrong several threads ago…picked too early & did not hang dry long enough. Common noob mistake we have all made in the beginning but whatever just give up fuck it. It’s not a waste of time if you learned something.
 

crimsonecho

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wow my first run i must have sprayed something late in flower because that mf was crackling and popping all the way through couldnt even take a hit without coughing your lungs out and tasted worse than drinking straight bleach. gifted all to my closest frenemies lmao. that was about 7 yrs ago came a long way since then.
 

Modern Selections

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In this thread..

You are discussing pH and nutrients on Dec 29th with the plant still growing. This here thread was started on Dec 31st with bagged dried bud. Drying the crop in a 24 hr period is going to give bad results every time.

Patience is the key to growing.

Don't give up! Get some known photoperiod seeds, your light and nutrients are fine. Switch to soil (Promix or sim) as it is much more forgiving. Make sure your humidity is on point during the grow, 50% or less. And finally, read up on drying and curing.

You will have far better flowers than that dispo crap with a few simple tweaks to your operation.

Give it another go!
 

sfw1960

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In this thread..

You are discussing pH and nutrients on Dec 29th with the plant still growing. This here thread was started on Dec 31st with bagged dried bud. Drying the crop in a 24 hr period is going to give bad results every time.

Patience is the key to growing.

Don't give up! Get some known photoperiod seed.,....
You will have far better flowers than that dispo crap with a few simple tweaks to your operation.

Give it another go!
Good stuff right there!
The K.I.S.S. rule applies here too.
 

Star Dog

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Everyone has stumbles along the way, you might not realise it but you learned a lot from the grow even if it was fk up.

Like @conor c said each crop will improve a little and soon enough you'll be growing decent bud.

Keep it simple for best results.
 
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conor c

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Everyone has a stumbles along the way, you might not realise it but you learned a lot from the grow even if it was fk up.

Like @conor c said each crop will improve a little and soon enough you'll be growing decent bud.

Keep it simple for best results.
Exactly mate dont over complicate it also helps as well if you have some basic gardening skills with other plants too dont get me wrong it is not required but it dont hurt i think alot of people that start with only weed are more likely to make it harder than it needs to be ime where as folk with a general gardening back round are far more likely to see it as just another plant
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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In this thread..

You are discussing pH and nutrients on Dec 29th with the plant still growing. This here thread was started on Dec 31st with bagged dried bud. Drying the crop in a 24 hr period is going to give bad results every time.

Patience is the key to growing.

Don't give up! Get some known photoperiod seeds, your light and nutrients are fine. Switch to soil (Promix or sim) as it is much more forgiving. Make sure your humidity is on point during the grow, 50% or less. And finally, read up on drying and curing.

You will have far better flowers than that dispo crap with a few simple tweaks to your operation.

Give it another go!
TBH, you'd have to really screw up your dry to have it trimmed and bagged in 2 days. Also, sounds like someone hasn't done any reading up on how to mature, harvest, dry or cure. THAT is a recipe for a really shitty result.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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OP... don't beat yourself up bro. There's some really good advise on here. Agree with not blitzing them with too much snake oil, less is more. It's just a plant. They need 3 things. The right amount of light, easy on the nutes (esp if you are starting with a charged soil), and a proper dry/cure. The latter is one of the most important. 10 days minimum dry time at 60/58RHish. Some of the best grows I've done outside of the Commercial Op was not even looking at them for 3 days at a time. "Helicopter Growing" can bite you in the ass.
 

EvilJ

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I've had bad brows as novice Gardner. I've had so many issues fungus, bugs, root root ect ........ It's all about learning. If it was easy everyone would do it. Next run I recommend running some feminized, you'll have more control. Also post a grow blog as you go and we can help you along the way. Once you get get things dialed in you'll thank yourself for not giving up. Almost every grower here has had some type of fail wether it was self inflicted or mother nature did it. I'd be happy to send you some free fem seeds to get your second run going.
 
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