Setting up dtw coco 2.5x5 tent

[Thundercat]

You could perpetuate it sure. Theonly down side would be either feeding them all the same or having 2 different feeds. I ran a perpetual for years in a single tray with all the plants getting the same feed from when they went into flower until harvest and it works fine. It doesn't allow you to dial in specific nutrients for specific plants if you have multiple cultivars though. I just chose plants that worked well in my system when I was pheno hunting.

 

[medidedicated]

Ok yeah Im trying to make all plants run on the same ec same reservoir. I dont tweak ec I just kept at 1.1-1.3 ec more so 1.1. It stayed fine for this strain, just neglected to dim light and got light related damage on a few tops.

I went with the more plants route so I can always have new genetics to improve my goals. Turned out to be a freebie that was a keeper. Im eager to pop beans though I put some work to most likely have a few gems on hand.

I dont want to dedicate a whole half of a space to something I dont know if Il even be happy with.

 

[Drop That Sound]

Having trays sent seems kinda sketch IMO, mostly because how the boxes get thrashed around by the shipping guys, and how easy they can crack (not that they can't be plastic welded/repaired). Two trays will protect each other a little better being shipped, and I doubt they wanna deal with decently packing less than 1 anyway. Or having single cracked ones returned all the time. That's my guess as to why some companies require you to buy more, and even then some get damaged. I dunno.. Your always better off driving somewhere for something like a large tray, or even purchasing a used one from someone local. Look around online. I got my last stack of 2x4' low tide trays for $100 for 4 brand new ones, without holes even drilled! Off some kid on marketplace. Worth the drive considering they go like 60-100+ new, if you can even find them in the shops without special orders.

Another alternative is to set a corrugated pvc roof panel over a frame with plywood, with a slight slope to one side. Then hookup a small gutter section with 2 end caps (or even a wide enough container or something like a bigger tote to act directly as the res) on the low end to catch the run off, and lead out to your drain pump, etc... Just like building a mini roof in your tent to set the pots on, with its own gutter and downspout

 

[medidedicated]

Would ya look at this! Just a random idea popped in my head for a diy halo for a super small pot like a solo cup. Too bad its only for 3 weeks or so when I redo the flower tent drip system.

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[medidedicated]

Wow, just read the whole thread from the beginning..

A BIG thank you to everyone working their butts off helping this dummy stoner.

Something about waiting till just now to re-read, allowing time to get familiar with parts helped and was able to understand all suggestions much better.

I will go to the store for a flood tray. I will try to mess around with the manifolds to see if stronger pump works.

If it don’t I will have a few options to choose.

 

[Drop That Sound]

My random idea for the day:

What if instead of setting up a DTW with drip feed lines and a drain tray as usual.. you hook up a manifold to a shop vac, with smaller little hoses going to each pot, towards the bottom where the drain holes are. Then, just jam the main feed line right into the coco. When the timer comes on for the feed cycle, the wet vac comes on and sucks the waste water right out of the pots, but also pulls in fresh nutrient solution as it does through the feed lines, kinda like a carburetor or something. Pull the new solution (and more o2 than usual?!) with capillary vacuum action instead of top feeding with a pump.

Something like that..

 

[medidedicated]

So another cola kinked and fell upside down and getting tired of harvesting as it happens and havent tried asking, just assumed it should be cut.

Can you prop it back up without fear of damping off or mold or death of the cola?

Can it get a boo boo this late in flower as long as its propped up? Will the stem have some repair capability left like when you super crop in early flower? Or will it at least remain functional?

I went ahead and tied it to a string on the ceiling and expirementing, for all I know I could of saved the others.

 

[TCH]

So another cola kinked and fell upside down and getting tired of harvesting as it happens and havent tried asking, just assumed it should be cut.

Can you prop it back up without fear of damping off or mold or death of the cola?

Can it get a boo boo this late in flower as long as its propped up? Will the stem have some repair capability left like when you super crop in early flower?

I went ahead and tied it to a string on the ceiling and expirementing, for all I know I could of saved the others.

Yeah, you should be able to tie it up just fine.

 

[medidedicated]

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What are these white balls and strings of slime? Bacteria or nutrient fall out?

Only thing I did different is top it off instead of dumping all nutes out before refilling for like almost a month now maybe 3 weeks.

Thinking of buying an aquirium net fishing thing to get fishes or junk out of the water.

I heard our system is loaded with white deposits from lime or something like that, is this that?

 

[medidedicated]

So good chance of figuring something out but just a note. One said I should keep what I have and dial it in, roll with it for a while.

Going into this I thought I needed large veg plants to fill the 2.5x2.5 canopy. Now I work with a strain that literally triples in size from flip.

I have a thread “help start perpetual garden” I could ask this there on but this thread has all sources to setup the dtw side of it; if to run more plants.

The perpetual side of things I realize two things. It takes about 2.5 months to flower my strain but shouldnt take that long to make clones ready for next run.

So this burdens my 2x4 that could be a flower tent? Looking at pics at start of flip this plant was so tiny I had another plant that turned male on that side of tent. Luckily because I only had room for this one.

To the point I could see myself buying a 2x2 to veg 4 clones, perpetuate both tents, get 72gs rosin if I yield 10oz and 8oz in the 2x4..

This would be enough to dab mostly home made stuff for the most part. Thats the main goal. My latest plan would only allow for 10oz every 2.5 months and most a veg tent empty.

Any thoughts let me know. Just a wild thought.

 

[medidedicated]

Heres what the plant size was before flip, feel like I can fit 4 in a 2x2. Only took 5 weeks veg from seed. I thought this because I cloned much faster than last time, not sure what happened but only found to note to myself that it took like a month to start growing.

Switched to aerocloners hoping to have better results but yea I am wondering if this sounds solid.

 

[medidedicated]

Wow those 3 gallons were working me stupid. Now that its one gal or less the 60gal res is waaaay overkill. Finally can breathe. Switching to ph drops. Turns out theyre slightly easier to use/keep than a meter.

 

[medidedicated]

Any one use quickfill bags by flora flex? Doing the math.. So long as its good quality buffered coco, it costs the same! Just slap a cap on it and its ready.

Hiiiighly considering it.

 

[TCH]

Any one use quickfill bags by flora flex? Doing the math.. So long as its good quality buffered coco, it costs the same! Just slap a cap on it and its ready.

Hiiiighly considering it.

I looked into it very briefly, but decided to stick with my canna bricks. I had great luck with them and I'm sure it is considerably cheaper to buy the brick then prefilled bags.

 

[medidedicated]

Yea I just found more info on it being not buffered than any info on it being buffered so probably not. It is pretty much same price though and convenient like buying ready to use coco which I still might consider.

Just trying avoid spend 50 for 1 gal pots as floraflex needs for any order. I could buy pots that fit the cap but why not just have a matching setup.

Unless half gal can fill a 2.5x2.5 canopy or even 2x2. Would be nice to make use of what I have but not sure it will work unless vegging long enough will do it.

Trying to make 4oz and 8oz plants.

 

[medidedicated]

Now that I have a strain to work with for now everything fell into place, found I could just keep doing two plants per tent. Dtw side of things would be easy. Its adding more than 4 plants is where it gets hard but not doing that.

I know I need to down size from 3 gallon but 1 gal is ok for 2.5x2.5 and half gal in 2x2 but would like everything unified so it all runs off the same in the veg tent and flower.

Making all the drippers floreflex 1/4” tubing would make things simpler too. Getting a 2x2 flood tray and 3x3 veg tent with orbit manifolds 4 plants.

Then a 2x2 to get rid of beans and find keepers. So that and two flower tents 2x4 and 2.5x5, half ibs and 1 ibs from them. My ideas and plans better not shift yet again but pretty sure thats all of it.

 

[shnkrmn]

You would not regret going entirely with floraflex, including the manifolds. My experience with orbit manifolds was uneven distribution through the lines and airlocking in the head. And they are stupid cheap IF you buy from their kits or bundles menu.

 

[curious2garden]

You would not regret going entirely with floraflex, including the manifolds. My experience with orbit manifolds was uneven distribution through the lines and airlocking in the head. And they are stupid cheap IF you buy from their kits or bundles menu.

I'm seconding this with one caveat if you use the Floracap system you have to use an external support system. But it's a great irrigation system.

 

[medidedicated]

I'm seconding this with one caveat if you use the Floracap system you have to use an external support system. But it's a great irrigation system.

What do you mean by external support system? The piping going to reservoir? Im clueless, but looking at a 4 plant bundle just making sense of what parts I will need, its helping.

 

[shnkrmn]

I'm guessing she means stakes or trellis because 2 gallon pots with trees in em don't stay upright? I use 2 trellises.