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behold what happens when a party runs on undiluted and unrestrained spite.
Examples of GOP Leadership
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"Winning!" (That was a thing right?) Poor MGT does not seem happy. Maybe round 2 next week?
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But wait, there is more.
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See. He still has the power to make us laugh.
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In stunner, House GOP bid to impeach Mayorkas fails
A House GOP effort to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas failed in embarrassing fashion Tuesday as three Republicans joined Democrats in voting against what would have been the …
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But wait, there is more.
House torpedoes stand-alone Israel aid bill
The House on Tuesday rejected a bill to provide $17.6 billion in aid for Israel, sinking Congress’s latest effort to help its embattled Middle Eastern ally and throwing the fate of future foreign a…
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See. He still has the power to make us laugh.
Santos taunts House GOP after Mayorkas bill fails: ‘Miss me yet?’
Former Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.) taunted House Republicans online after a vote to impeach Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas failed. “Miss me yet?” Santos posted on X, t…
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cannabineer
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I think I read they’ll try again when Scalise is out of hospital. It would be nice if they lose again."Winning!" (That was a thing right?) Poor MGT does not seem happy. Maybe round 2 next week?
In stunner, House GOP bid to impeach Mayorkas fails
A House GOP effort to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas failed in embarrassing fashion Tuesday as three Republicans joined Democrats in voting against what would have been the …
But wait, there is more.
House torpedoes stand-alone Israel aid bill
The House on Tuesday rejected a bill to provide $17.6 billion in aid for Israel, sinking Congress’s latest effort to help its embattled Middle Eastern ally and throwing the fate of future foreign a…
See. He still has the power to make us laugh.
Santos taunts House GOP after Mayorkas bill fails: ‘Miss me yet?’
Former Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.) taunted House Republicans online after a vote to impeach Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas failed. “Miss me yet?” Santos posted on X, t…
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GOP’s Massie: McCarthy ouster ‘has officially turned into an unmitigated disaster’
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) on Wednesday said the ousting of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) last October has been an “unmitigated disaster,” a day after the House GOP twice fell short in floor votes in embarrassing fashion.
“Getting rid of Speaker McCarthy has officially turned into an unmitigated disaster,” Massie wrote on X, formerly Twitter.
“All work on separate spending bills has ceased. Spending reductions have been traded for spending increases,” he continued. “Warrantless spying has been temporarily extended. Our majority has shrunk.”
Republicans are dealing with a slender majority in the House which was also a problem for McCarthy but which has shrunk further since his exit.
On Tuesday, they saw their effort to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas fall short on the floor after a Democrat unexpectedly showed up to vote and three of their members defected. They fell one vote short of impeaching Mayorkas, a high priority for conservatives.
Immediately after that vote, a bill to provide aid to Israel that was brought to the floor under the suspension of House rules also failed. It needed a two-thirds majority because of the suspension of House rules, but Democrats and Republicans opposed it.
The twin defeats raised questions about the House GOP’s ability to govern — and it’s ability to count votes.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who led the push to unseat McCarthy, pushed back on Massie’s remarks on X.
“McCarthy lied to us, made secret side deals, increased spending, got rolled by Biden and shrunk our majority by quitting when he couldn’t run the place,” he replied. “His removal was warranted.”
In response to a separate reply, Massie asked a commenter to “name one thing that’s improved under the new Speaker.”
Gaetz himself shot back, “Here’s one: we haven’t sent any money to Ukraine (yet).”
The losses by the GOP on Tuesday were a significant defeat for the man who succeeded McCarthy, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).
He has struggled to unify Republicans around measures to fund the government, and will face new challenges in March when deadlines to prevent a government shutdown loom.
The Mayorkas impeachment issue is expected to return to the House. Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) missed Tuesday’s vote as he gets treatment for blood cancer. Assuming no one else changes their vote, his presence could be enough to impeach Mayorkas.
Still, Johnson has had to deal with the same threats as McCarthy. Both Reps. Chip Roy (R-Texas) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) have threatened to offer a motion to vacate the chair against him if he does not meet various demands. Such a motion was used to end McCarthy’s Speakership.
In response to Massie’s post, former Trump administration communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin said Wednesday that it’s “only a matter of time” before a Republican member files a motion to vacate the chair on Johnson.
“And it’d be entirely justified,” added Griffin, a high-profile GOP critic of Trump and his allies.
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Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) on Wednesday said the ousting of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) last October has been an “unmitigated disaster,” a day after the House GOP twice fell short in floor votes in embarrassing fashion.
“Getting rid of Speaker McCarthy has officially turned into an unmitigated disaster,” Massie wrote on X, formerly Twitter.
“All work on separate spending bills has ceased. Spending reductions have been traded for spending increases,” he continued. “Warrantless spying has been temporarily extended. Our majority has shrunk.”
Republicans are dealing with a slender majority in the House which was also a problem for McCarthy but which has shrunk further since his exit.
On Tuesday, they saw their effort to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas fall short on the floor after a Democrat unexpectedly showed up to vote and three of their members defected. They fell one vote short of impeaching Mayorkas, a high priority for conservatives.
Immediately after that vote, a bill to provide aid to Israel that was brought to the floor under the suspension of House rules also failed. It needed a two-thirds majority because of the suspension of House rules, but Democrats and Republicans opposed it.
The twin defeats raised questions about the House GOP’s ability to govern — and it’s ability to count votes.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who led the push to unseat McCarthy, pushed back on Massie’s remarks on X.
“McCarthy lied to us, made secret side deals, increased spending, got rolled by Biden and shrunk our majority by quitting when he couldn’t run the place,” he replied. “His removal was warranted.”
In response to a separate reply, Massie asked a commenter to “name one thing that’s improved under the new Speaker.”
Gaetz himself shot back, “Here’s one: we haven’t sent any money to Ukraine (yet).”
The losses by the GOP on Tuesday were a significant defeat for the man who succeeded McCarthy, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).
He has struggled to unify Republicans around measures to fund the government, and will face new challenges in March when deadlines to prevent a government shutdown loom.
The Mayorkas impeachment issue is expected to return to the House. Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) missed Tuesday’s vote as he gets treatment for blood cancer. Assuming no one else changes their vote, his presence could be enough to impeach Mayorkas.
Still, Johnson has had to deal with the same threats as McCarthy. Both Reps. Chip Roy (R-Texas) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) have threatened to offer a motion to vacate the chair against him if he does not meet various demands. Such a motion was used to end McCarthy’s Speakership.
In response to Massie’s post, former Trump administration communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin said Wednesday that it’s “only a matter of time” before a Republican member files a motion to vacate the chair on Johnson.
“And it’d be entirely justified,” added Griffin, a high-profile GOP critic of Trump and his allies.
GOP’s Massie: McCarthy ouster ‘has officially turned into an unmitigated disaster’
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) said Wednesday that the ousting of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) last October has been an “unmitigated disaster,” a day after the House GOP twice fell short in…
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DIY-HP-LED
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Most of them would ban Arabic numbers from being taught in schools...
cannabineer
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neenerGOP’s Massie: McCarthy ouster ‘has officially turned into an unmitigated disaster’
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) on Wednesday said the ousting of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) last October has been an “unmitigated disaster,” a day after the House GOP twice fell short in floor votes in embarrassing fashion.
“Getting rid of Speaker McCarthy has officially turned into an unmitigated disaster,” Massie wrote on X, formerly Twitter.
“All work on separate spending bills has ceased. Spending reductions have been traded for spending increases,” he continued. “Warrantless spying has been temporarily extended. Our majority has shrunk.”
Republicans are dealing with a slender majority in the House which was also a problem for McCarthy but which has shrunk further since his exit.
On Tuesday, they saw their effort to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas fall short on the floor after a Democrat unexpectedly showed up to vote and three of their members defected. They fell one vote short of impeaching Mayorkas, a high priority for conservatives.
Immediately after that vote, a bill to provide aid to Israel that was brought to the floor under the suspension of House rules also failed. It needed a two-thirds majority because of the suspension of House rules, but Democrats and Republicans opposed it.
The twin defeats raised questions about the House GOP’s ability to govern — and it’s ability to count votes.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who led the push to unseat McCarthy, pushed back on Massie’s remarks on X.
“McCarthy lied to us, made secret side deals, increased spending, got rolled by Biden and shrunk our majority by quitting when he couldn’t run the place,” he replied. “His removal was warranted.”
In response to a separate reply, Massie asked a commenter to “name one thing that’s improved under the new Speaker.”
Gaetz himself shot back, “Here’s one: we haven’t sent any money to Ukraine (yet).”
The losses by the GOP on Tuesday were a significant defeat for the man who succeeded McCarthy, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).
He has struggled to unify Republicans around measures to fund the government, and will face new challenges in March when deadlines to prevent a government shutdown loom.
The Mayorkas impeachment issue is expected to return to the House. Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) missed Tuesday’s vote as he gets treatment for blood cancer. Assuming no one else changes their vote, his presence could be enough to impeach Mayorkas.
Still, Johnson has had to deal with the same threats as McCarthy. Both Reps. Chip Roy (R-Texas) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) have threatened to offer a motion to vacate the chair against him if he does not meet various demands. Such a motion was used to end McCarthy’s Speakership.
In response to Massie’s post, former Trump administration communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin said Wednesday that it’s “only a matter of time” before a Republican member files a motion to vacate the chair on Johnson.
“And it’d be entirely justified,” added Griffin, a high-profile GOP critic of Trump and his allies.
GOP’s Massie: McCarthy ouster ‘has officially turned into an unmitigated disaster’
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) said Wednesday that the ousting of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) last October has been an “unmitigated disaster,” a day after the House GOP twice fell short in…
Fogdog
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It's a relief knowing that this man and the Democratic Caucus are able to withstand the GOP Sturm and Drang while keeping their own wits calm and collected.
some bits that I liked in Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries presser:
Hakeem Jeffries: One of the top Republican priorities, apparently, is now advancing a resolution led by Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz and Elise Stefanik that is designed to allegedly exonerate Donald Trump from the events of Jan 6 and the violent insurrection. This is what they're focused on. With all of the challenges facing the American People, House Republican leadership, apparently once again directed by Donald Trump has chosen to focus their energies not on the economy, not on public safety, not on the border, not on American security interests, but on trying to exonerate Donald Trump.
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Reporter: You are the leader of the coalition and you studied under perhaps on of the greatest coalition leaders, Nancy Pelosi. What do you see from the outside looking in, give us a little diagnostic here
Hakeem Jeffries: Well, correction, the greatest legislative leader in our view in American political history and that continues to be proven over and over and over again by Republican disfunction. Under House Democrats, we had the same exact margin in the last Congress. The same exact margin. Republicans have produced chaos, extremism and disfunction. On the same margin under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi, we produced the American Rescue Plan, shots in arms, money in pockets, kids back in school, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act which will create millions of good paying jobs and clean water in every community, gun safety legislation that for the first time in 30 years that will save lives, the Chips and Science Act to bring domestic manufacturing back home to the United States of America AND the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation for combating the climate crisis in the history of the world -- setting our planet on the trajectory toward sustainability going forward -- strengthening the Affordable Care Act and driving down the cost of life saving drugs for millions of Americans, including taking the price of insulin from $4000 a year down to $35 a month. ... partnering with Democratic Senate colleagues were able to do all that with the same exact margin that Republicans have right now.
As far as I could tell, he said all that without referring to notes or a teleprompter. They guy is on message and able to say it without the kind of mean spirirted rhetoric ("sleepy Joe" or "Crazy Nancy"). He makes a good point during his talk. All that is needed are a few Republicans to reach out and form an opposition to the Do Nothing Republicans that could enable this Congress to make progress and perhaps get the necessary aid package out to Ukraine and get a Border Bill passed and signed. It can be done. Just not with the current leadership that is in charge in the House at this moment.
some bits that I liked in Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries presser:
Hakeem Jeffries: One of the top Republican priorities, apparently, is now advancing a resolution led by Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz and Elise Stefanik that is designed to allegedly exonerate Donald Trump from the events of Jan 6 and the violent insurrection. This is what they're focused on. With all of the challenges facing the American People, House Republican leadership, apparently once again directed by Donald Trump has chosen to focus their energies not on the economy, not on public safety, not on the border, not on American security interests, but on trying to exonerate Donald Trump.
.........
Reporter: You are the leader of the coalition and you studied under perhaps on of the greatest coalition leaders, Nancy Pelosi. What do you see from the outside looking in, give us a little diagnostic here
Hakeem Jeffries: Well, correction, the greatest legislative leader in our view in American political history and that continues to be proven over and over and over again by Republican disfunction. Under House Democrats, we had the same exact margin in the last Congress. The same exact margin. Republicans have produced chaos, extremism and disfunction. On the same margin under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi, we produced the American Rescue Plan, shots in arms, money in pockets, kids back in school, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act which will create millions of good paying jobs and clean water in every community, gun safety legislation that for the first time in 30 years that will save lives, the Chips and Science Act to bring domestic manufacturing back home to the United States of America AND the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation for combating the climate crisis in the history of the world -- setting our planet on the trajectory toward sustainability going forward -- strengthening the Affordable Care Act and driving down the cost of life saving drugs for millions of Americans, including taking the price of insulin from $4000 a year down to $35 a month. ... partnering with Democratic Senate colleagues were able to do all that with the same exact margin that Republicans have right now.
As far as I could tell, he said all that without referring to notes or a teleprompter. They guy is on message and able to say it without the kind of mean spirirted rhetoric ("sleepy Joe" or "Crazy Nancy"). He makes a good point during his talk. All that is needed are a few Republicans to reach out and form an opposition to the Do Nothing Republicans that could enable this Congress to make progress and perhaps get the necessary aid package out to Ukraine and get a Border Bill passed and signed. It can be done. Just not with the current leadership that is in charge in the House at this moment.
DIY-HP-LED
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If they are voting republican, they are not voting on facts, policy, the economy, the border or any other thing that makes sense. Some state republican parties have descended into chaos, are broke and have their leadership indicted for election cheating. The RNC is in bad financial shape and Scott apparently blew the senate reelection money a while back. Many right-wing wealthy people think they are dangerous and crazy, incompetent too. Trump is taking small donor money for his legal expenses which are mounting.
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McClintock defends vote against Mayorkas impeachment: Greene should ‘read the Constitution’
Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) on Wednesday defended his decision to vote against the impeachment of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas after helping sink the move the night before.
Fellow Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), a leading proponent of Mayorkas’s impeachment, had said McClintock is “clearly” not paying attention to what the American people want. Greene said he is failing his oath of office and urged him to “grow some courage and read the room.”
“Well, instead of reading the room, I’d suggest that maybe she read the Constitution she took an oath to support and defend,” McClintock said on C-SPAN’s “Washington Journal.”
“That Constitution very clearly lays out the grounds for impeachment. This dumbs down those grounds dramatically and would set a precedent that could be turned against the conservatives on the Supreme Court or a future Republican administration the moment the Democrats take control of the Congress,” he continued.
McClintock published a 10-page memo Tuesday that offered criticism of Mayorkas, who has become the face of the Biden administration’s handling of immigration at the southern border. In the memo, he said the Republican Party had failed to identify an impeachable crime.
“Clearly the founders worried that the power of impeachment could be used to settle political disputes and so searched for limiting language to avoid such abuse,” he wrote.
In a stunning vote Tuesday evening, the effort to impeach Mayorkas failed 214-216. McClintock was joined by GOP Reps. Ken Buck (Colo.) and Mike Gallagher (Wis.) in siding with all Democrats to block the move.
A fourth Republican, Rep. Blake Moore (Utah), flipped his vote to “no” seconds before the vote closed as a procedural move that allows the party to bring the legislation back at a later date.
Mia Ehrenberg, a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, said in a statement: “This baseless impeachment should never have moved forward; it faces bipartisan opposition and legal experts resoundingly say it is unconstitutional.”
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Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) on Wednesday defended his decision to vote against the impeachment of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas after helping sink the move the night before.
Fellow Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), a leading proponent of Mayorkas’s impeachment, had said McClintock is “clearly” not paying attention to what the American people want. Greene said he is failing his oath of office and urged him to “grow some courage and read the room.”
“Well, instead of reading the room, I’d suggest that maybe she read the Constitution she took an oath to support and defend,” McClintock said on C-SPAN’s “Washington Journal.”
“That Constitution very clearly lays out the grounds for impeachment. This dumbs down those grounds dramatically and would set a precedent that could be turned against the conservatives on the Supreme Court or a future Republican administration the moment the Democrats take control of the Congress,” he continued.
McClintock published a 10-page memo Tuesday that offered criticism of Mayorkas, who has become the face of the Biden administration’s handling of immigration at the southern border. In the memo, he said the Republican Party had failed to identify an impeachable crime.
“Clearly the founders worried that the power of impeachment could be used to settle political disputes and so searched for limiting language to avoid such abuse,” he wrote.
In a stunning vote Tuesday evening, the effort to impeach Mayorkas failed 214-216. McClintock was joined by GOP Reps. Ken Buck (Colo.) and Mike Gallagher (Wis.) in siding with all Democrats to block the move.
A fourth Republican, Rep. Blake Moore (Utah), flipped his vote to “no” seconds before the vote closed as a procedural move that allows the party to bring the legislation back at a later date.
Mia Ehrenberg, a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, said in a statement: “This baseless impeachment should never have moved forward; it faces bipartisan opposition and legal experts resoundingly say it is unconstitutional.”
McClintock defends vote against Mayorkas impeachment: Greene should ‘read the Constitution’
Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) on Wednesday defended his decision to vote against the impeachment of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas after helping sink the move the night before. Fel…
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cannabineer
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Unless their net worth is eight figures and up. Then they are rationally voting for a system that encourages them to continue stripping the republic of its prosperity.
Fogdog
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The stakes are high for the American people and maybe even higher in certain places in this world. It's coming down to more than just a political crisis, the time is coming soon where the political logjam will turn into tangible results, such as defeats to Ukraine and the senseless loss of Ukrainian soldier's lives. For lack of arms that we have in surplus.
It's high time for Republicans to own up to their unrealistic and downright dangerous support for Trump. Things are starting to break and people's lives will suffer for it. Not that Trump cares. At some point, Republicans are going to have to break away from their unhealthy and abusive relationship with him. The sooner the better.
DIY-HP-LED
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It is coming to a showdown with the RNC, McDaniel's might not be crazy enough for them. Trump will try to shut down the government to publicly extort a pardon and apology from Biden before he's done. He had better do it before the primaries are over though, and yes, he is desperate, crazy and stupid enough to do it!
cannabineer
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While I agree, the GOP and their base have painted themselves into an ideological, perhaps an existential corner. They’re all in.
“Break” is an apt word. It is becoming less likely imo that the change will be incremental. Something somewhere in the party will have to change catastrophically. It doesn’t have to be everything all at once, and it probably must await that man’s passing from the scene, perhaps from cumulative hamberder toxicity, preferably from incarceration and the cutting of the strings to his puppet leadership.
But watching Republicans thrash at all levels of government suggests to me that the crisis point still is not at hand. When and what that will be — I have no idea.
(add) Holding Ukraine hostage to their politics of division and grievance is especially shameful. It showcases their institutional contempt for democratic government.
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DIY-HP-LED
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From all accounts the republican party is imploding state and federally on the eve of an election, with internal strife, cheating and financial problems. Donald is not done wiping his ass with them yet though! 
DIY-HP-LED
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Looks like 26% are hardcore crazy and another bunch are confused, while a majority seems to get it right...
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BudmanTX
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i love irony......
Fogdog
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Yeah, I know it's not actually time but it is high time that they realize the abusive relationship has drifted from a few harsh words to a suffocating endurance of threats and increasingly worse trips to the hospital when he completely lets loose. At first they could pass it off as if he didn't really mean to do it and it won't happen again but now, after all that's happened, they simply can't say it was just a joke or a mistake. He really means to hurt them.
I can't say that I was ever close to them but it's getting hard to see them lose their own self esteem over someone that is only going to get worse. So, now he's clearly dragging them down with them. He seems intent to avoid living in the bottom of the pit he's dug himself into by standing on their dead bodies.
I mean, this is downright abusive:
Trump brags about efforts to stymie border talks: ‘Please blame it on me’
The Republican front-runner slams bipartisan talks in the Senate for a deal as Biden calls for emergency authority to address surging crossings
This could have been a good day for Republican Senators. They could have achieved much that seemed out of reach before now. Trump just told them they can't have nice things.
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