Examples of GOP Leadership

Fogdog

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One thing about facts. They don't change. What is true about the events that were documented years ago regarding Burisma, Hunter and Joe Biden is true today. That's the difference between the GOP's story and the facts. GOP's story keeps changing. They cherry pick facts to fit their story. Their stories keep changing. Lies require constant maintenance, they need to be updated, changed as events unfold. But the truth? Doesn't change.
 

Dorian2

Well-Known Member
One thing about facts. They don't change. What is true about the events that were documented years ago regarding Burisma, Hunter and Joe Biden is true today. That's the difference between the GOP's story and the facts. GOP's story keeps changing. They cherry pick facts to fit their story. Their stories keep changing. Lies require constant maintenance, they need to be updated, changed as events unfold. But the truth? Doesn't change.
I know we've had our differences, but I really do truly respect your insight into the nature of this stuff.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I know we've had our differences, but I really do truly respect your insight into the nature of this stuff.
Thanks but I'll give credit to the author that passed that insight on to me. It's not a great book but contains some good insight into Trump and his MAGA followers. I checked my copy out from my local library (not Monroe County). It's a point he makes in his description of how authoritarians manipulate their followers and their followers are facile in that they just shift their stories without even asking, What about that other story?


Authoritarian Nightmare

Trump and His Followers
by John W. Dean
Bob Altemeyer
How did America end up with a leader who acts so crudely and despotically, and counter to our democratic principles? Why do his followers stick with him, even when he acts against their own interests?

To fully understand, John Dean, a man with a history of standing up to autocratic presidents, joined with Bob Altemeyer, a professor of psychology with a unique area of expertise: Authoritarianism.
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
Everyone’s favorite Crackhead with a new and sad pitch. Visibly shaking , probably tweaked out of his mind.

Behold.

Got in over his head,rule #1 of business "Don't alienate more than 1/2 of paying customers",how many American's seen him suck up to Trump and resolved never to send this guy a dollar,join the long list of guys who go down in flames when rubbing shoulders w/Trump,Mike.
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
Cause

2018
Russiagate Is Far Wider Than Trump and His Inner Circle
It isn’t just the story of a few corrupt officials, or even a corrupt president. It’s the story of a corrupt Republican Party.

The point here isn’t necessarily that Rohrabacher, a Republican congressman from California, solicited illegally obtained documents from Russian officials. There are other plausible candidates who might have done that. The point is that Russiagate, which is widely understood to be a scandal surrounding Donald Trump’s close associates like Paul Manafort, may go wider and deeper, and could implicate at least one member of Congress.
Moreover, it seems that the Republican leadership was at the very least aware of this possibility, amused by it, and did nothing whatsoever to alert the public or any relevant authorities. They were happy to enjoy the benefits of Russian interference and said so openly among themselves.

Similarly, as the Post reported, when Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell was informed of Russian interference in September 2016 in a meeting with President Obama and other senior officials, he threatened to cast any public announcement of the threat as partisan politics. It’s not a stretch to say McConnell deliberately undermined national security for partisan advantage, a decision that has paid off with the signing of a massive tax cut for the wealthy and the looming establishment of a durable right-wing majority on the Supreme Court.

In other words, Russiagate isn’t just the narrow story of a few corrupt officials. It isn’t even the story of a corrupt president. It’s the story of a corrupt political party, the one currently holding all the levers of power in Washington. After Trump groveled before Putin in Helsinki, many Republicans in Washington proclaimed their solemn concern, just as they did when the president expressed his sympathy for the white supremacists in Charlottesville last year. But all of them are fully aware that they are abetting a criminal conspiracy, and probably more than one.

Cause
2023
GOP operative sentenced in scheme to funnel Russian money to Trump campaign

A Republican strategist was sentenced Friday to 18 months in prison for his role in helping funnel illegal foreign campaign contributions from a Russian national into former President Trump's 2016 campaign, per the Department of Justice.

Cause
2019
Trump’s businesses are full of dirty Russian money. The scandal is that it’s legal.
Shell companies put figures from Putin’s Mafia into Trump Tower. Should that be worrying?

Effect
The Republican Party has grown much more supportive of Russia in recent years


KELLY: I want to begin by noting that this piece you wrote - it's coming up on five years old. It's from 2019. Have you, as a longtime Russia watcher, tracked any diminishment in the intervening years in American conservative admiration for Russia?
APPLEBAUM: No. On the contrary, I think the conservative party's romance with Russia has grown quite a bit deeper. This is now a party that is profoundly critical of the United States. It doesn't like the diverse society that we've become. It doesn't like immigration. It doesn't like the kind of national conversation we have. And ironically, like the left of a previous generation, they've imagined that a better, ideal version of our society exists in Russia - a kind of white, Christian nation, you know, unified beneath a single leader without all this messy, ugly democracy and all these different kinds of people. And that's, I think, one of the roots of their admiration.

Effect
Feb 15, 2024

Treasury promoting new rules to stop money laundering ahead of Europe meetings

To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Well, not exactly physics and not exactly equal and opposite, but,
The Biden administration is cracking down on Russian money laundering in the US. Also, witness the Article that Budman posted today about Johnson's funds tied to Russians. This came out after Johnson halted a bill that would have continued funding for Ukraine's war against Russian aggression that he is keeping from a vote for no good reason. Coincidence?
I don't think this country can take it,but all this Russian money infecting the R party may require investigation resembling the McCarthy hearings 2.0,R's can't compromise when their COMPROMISED.
 

topcat

Well-Known Member
When Trump tells the story, the "sir" guy gets gets a higher pitched voice and gets softer. When he quotes himself (lol), his voice gets deeper and louder.

Yup, never happened.
Ooh, and sometimes orchestrated. Strings to lull, it works against him, with results like Just think of it. We would be in World War Two very quickly.
The little growl in and they indicted me.
But hey, whale!
 

Budzbuddha

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Trump hawking some ugly ass sneakers at SneakerCon … gets booed and some crazy Karen ( probably a fake ) screeching about Trump.
Guess the Blimp needs every ruble he can shake out.


I found a pair the stupid ass could wear.
Clown Converse

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injinji

Well-Known Member
I don't think this country can take it,but all this Russian money infecting the R party may require investigation resembling the McCarthy hearings 2.0. . . . . . . .
About the McCarthy hearings. The spooks knew who the spies were, but they wouldn't let them be picked up because they didn't want the USSR to know we had broke their codes. Hoover leaked some names to McCarthy to get at them that way. But McCarthy went off the deep end and caused much harm to lots of folks who were Leftists, but not working for the USSR.

Sure it should be looked into, but by the pros, not house or senate.
 

CCGNZ

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About the McCarthy hearings. The spooks knew who the spies were, but they wouldn't let them be picked up because they didn't want the USSR to know we had broke their codes. Hoover leaked some names to McCarthy to get at them that way. But McCarthy went off the deep end and caused much harm to lots of folks who were Leftists, but not working for the USSR.

Sure it should be looked into, but by the pros, not house or senate.
Good point,those hearings were before I was born,and I threw it out as a analogy,because HOW can we have a Speaker funded w/Russian money w/the power to determine if aid going to a country invaded by Russia even gets to a vote? COMPROMISED isn't a strong enough word to describe that situation and man we are FK'D if foreign adversaries can so obviously penetrate and influence our Congress.
 
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