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Sly Lycan

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Hello. Sly here. I am a new grower in California. I have grown plants outdoors once and it came out okay, but left me with lots of questions. I am onto my second grow now utilizing a grow tent rather than outdoors. I thought it would be less stressful having more control, but I think it somehow became more stressful aha.

I am just looking for a place to learn and receive advice as well as a place in general to talk about this stuff. I have a lot of free time from having had to retire due to health issues. I decided to try and grow my own cannabis to save money as I use it to treat my pain and anxiety when I have flareups. I hope this can be a fun hobby to spend time on since I am on 32 and have waaaay too much time on my hands now with limited things I can do to fill it.

I already started a thread in another location before I noticed the introduction area, sorry for doing things a little bit out of order! :D

Side note, has anyone here tried cannabonsai? I recently took up bonsai and found out about cannabonsai and think it looks great!
 

Hook Daddy

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Welcome to RIU, cannabonsai has always looked interesting to me, I’d love to try it but we have a max plant count, and a bonsai ain’t gonna make the cut. Would like to watch someone through the process though. Keep a journal if you decide to try, I’ll watch.
 

Sly Lycan

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Welcome to RIU, cannabonsai has always looked interesting to me, I’d love to try it but we have a max plant count, and a bonsai ain’t gonna make the cut. Would like to watch someone through the process though. Keep a journal if you decide to try, I’ll watch.
We also have a plant limit but We have a bazillion house plants so if they want to try and find the little cannabonsai scattered within more power to them. I will try to keep a grow journal when I do begin it though. It will be a while; I want to make sure I can keep the normal cannabis alive before trying to bdsm it into cannabonsai.


Here is somewhat of a canna bonsai know. as solo cup growing. Made some fire rosin out of it. Welcome to RIU! Theres plenty to get into here!
Wow those are neat! Nice. Also, would you look at those roots! :O I just tried my hand at taking my first clipping of one of the plants that seems to be doing best. No Idea what I am doing but figured I would start trying to learn how to do that too. Also just guessing based on your name do you grow for medicinal purposes? That is my main goal. We (read: my girlfriend) usually just turn it into an oil or butter that ends up being very potent, at least for us. Is the rosin particularly useful for that?


Also have bonsai mothers to keep genetics alive and around which I take cuttings from. Normally people have larger mothers but Im limited space.
What are those salami stick looking things in 7173? I know they aren't salami but can't think of what they might be haha.
 

medidedicated

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Wow those are neat! Nice. Also, would you look at those roots! :O I just tried my hand at taking my first clipping of one of the plants that seems to be doing best. No Idea what I am doing but figured I would start trying to learn how to do that too. Also just guessing based on your name do you grow for medicinal purposes? That is my main goal. We (read: my girlfriend) usually just turn it into an oil or butter that ends up being very potent, at least for us. Is the rosin particularly useful for that?
Thanks! Its legal recreationally too in my state so no need for med card. Im simply medicated at all times and dedicated to all things around that. I take pharmacy meds too.

I grow just to save money I suddenly switched from smoking weed to all dabs for a year and a half and now. As of few weeks ago I switched to consuming just my own rosin.

Used to be live resin store bought now its flower rosin and dry sift rosin and Im equally happy. I do perpetual clones Im on my 2nd run and doing new strains soon. I made 96gs rosin last run.
 

medidedicated

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We (read: my girlfriend) usually just turn it into an oil or butter that ends up being very potent, at least for us. Is the rosin particularly useful for that?



What are those salami stick looking things in 7173? I know they aren't salami but can't think of what they might be haha.
I make edibles too if thats what you mean. Yes the rosin can be perfect for edible butters. I lack ability to get high on edibles so I dont care much for them I just decarb trim and make 10gs into a half cup coconut and lecithin which helps me get high on it.

My best buzzes are from flower/trim. The dabbable concentrates I much rarher dab. They do provide a rush of a buzz but doesnt last as long.

The salami things are sticky traps I just had a bad gnat infestation but got mostly under control now.
 

medidedicated

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Forgot to say I also grow because its really really fun! Passion will soon be why most people grow. I think to myself last harvest like ok.. Now I just need to do this every 10 weeks.. Great lol. Im only saving like 8$ a day lol.

Growing smoke is much more profitable, I wouldnt have to always grow. Appearently vaping a gram and half of hash a day is like vaping a quarter oz a day with a good yielding strain. It has its benefits vaping only hash.
 

Sly Lycan

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Thanks! Its legal recreationally too in my state so no need for med card. Im simply medicated at all times and dedicated to all things around that. I take pharmacy meds too.

I grow just to save money I suddenly switched from smoking weed to all dabs for a year and a half and now.
I understand that. Cannabis seems to be a miracle drug for most of my needs which is wonderful. I also still am taking a lot of pharmacy meds too though. I was at a new dentist yesterday and had to ask for more paper to list all the medications; I thought my hand was going to fall off from all the writing. I am medically retired and am on a limited income so saving money is also a big motivation for why I started growing. I also just wanted to have something to do with all this time that wasn't physically straining, and this seems perfect!


As of few weeks ago I switched to consuming just my own rosin.

Used to be live resin store bought now its flower rosin and dry sift rosin and Im equally happy.
I am very novice when it comes to cannabis and its products. I basically just take whatever my girlfriends mother had been getting us from her dispensary trips. What exactly even is rosin? Is it something you consume or is it more an ingredient you use in other products?


I do perpetual clones Im on my 2nd run and doing new strains soon. I made 96gs rosin last run.
How do perpetual clones work? Is that just having a mother with a strain you like and then you just clone it and grow from there? It sounds like it would be a lot cheaper than seeds. Though I do think I like the idea of trying to propagate my own seeds because I will definitely produce more than I can consume on my own, so it would be another fun experience and allow me to try and stockpile various strains.


I make edibles too if thats what you mean. Yes the rosin can be perfect for edible butters. I lack ability to get high on edibles so I dont care much for them I just decarb trim and make 10gs into a half cup coconut and lecithin which helps me get high on it.

My best buzzes are from flower/trim. The dabbable concentrates I much rarher dab. They do provide a rush of a buzz but doesnt last as long.

The salami things are sticky traps I just had a bad gnat infestation but got mostly under control now.
What is "decarb trim?" I think my girlfriend does a similar process. We do it it with 20g of ground flower though. It usually lasts us a crazy amount of time. It only takes us about 1-2 drips from a dropper in the mouth to get a full day heavy buzz. Its a miracle for when I am having a flareup. I find with smoking flower that I have to re-up often and I build a tolerance. With the oils I for some reason get very high and have no tolerance gain which is quite nice to the wallet.

What is dabbing?

How do you like those sticky traps? My girlfriend ended up getting a plant that had a ton of gnat eggs or something because one day the whole house just was overwhelmed. It's since been taken care of; she used some kind of pest tea to kill the gnats and eggs in the plants/soil and then some giant yellow sticky traps but it was a bit of a nightmare for her. She was really stressing out over it. :/


Forgot to say I also grow because its really really fun! Passion will soon be why most people grow. I think to myself last harvest like ok.. Now I just need to do this every 10 weeks.. Great lol. Im only saving like 8$ a day lol.

Growing smoke is much more profitable, I wouldnt have to always grow. Appearently vaping a gram and half of hash a day is like vaping a quarter oz a day with a good yielding strain. It has its benefits vaping only hash.
Ya I have been having an absolute blast with the whole process, especially how deep the learning seems to go. It can be overwhelming at times, but I seem to enjoy the process even more so when I am overwhelmed! And also $8 dollars a day adds up! That is about $240/month and almost $3000/year! I don't think I am miserly or anything, but if you offer to pay me 250/mo or 3k/year to have fun and get to keep the product, I only have one thing to say: "hell ya!"

In regards to how much rosin you yield and the amount you vape, I have absolutely no idea how the measurements play out in real life. I should really try to pay attention to that.
 

Sly Lycan

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Also sorry for all the questions and rambling. I have a lot to learn and you seem knowledgeable. I also like to talk haha! If its ever too much just let me know!
 

medidedicated

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I understand that. Cannabis seems to be a miracle drug for most of my needs which is wonderful. I also still am taking a lot of pharmacy meds too though. I was at a new dentist yesterday and had to ask for more paper to list all the medications; I thought my hand was going to fall off from all the writing. I am medically retired and am on a limited income so saving money is also a big motivation for why I started growing. I also just wanted to have something to do with all this time that wasn't physically straining, and this seems perfect!



I am very novice when it comes to cannabis and its products. I basically just take whatever my girlfriends mother had been getting us from her dispensary trips. What exactly even is rosin? Is it something you consume or is it more an ingredient you use in other products?

Rosin is solvant free extract made with heat and pressure like a hydraulic press or pretty much anything with heated plates that applies pressure. It can be made with a curling iron or a cheap second hand press for $50-200 easily.

In fact I think you could get a small new one for $100-$200. I got a big one so I can press like 1-2 pounds in just a day or two, so bigger the better.

For small scale its still nice the heat melts the resin in the flower and forces it to flow out into parchment paper which you collect and can dab right away.

It can be used for edibles or topicals maybe couplenother things I cant think of. You can vaporize it, inhale and typically get higher than a serving of flower (weed).

It is alot like what you describe with edibles comparing to flower but to me the dabs are what does the job every time for me. Dabs are any concentrate you can inhale with a vaporizor.

How do perpetual clones work? Is that just having a mother with a strain you like and then you just clone it and grow from there? It sounds like it would be a lot cheaper than seeds. Though I do think I like the idea of trying to propagate my own seeds because I will definitely produce more than I can consume on my own, so it would be another fun experience and allow me to try and stockpile various strains.

Yup exactly, pheno hunting is a breeder growing anywhere from 10 to 1000 plants before choosing a mother. Bean hunting is growing 1-10 plants at a time or more to simply mother a nice strain to grow out which is just as it sounds when they say cloning.

Growing seeds is like having kids, different pheno expressions, a crapshoot each time. Cloning youre essentially growing out the same plant. You can cut off veg plants which are in leaf and stem growing mode in photoperiods.

You can cut a branch and clone the next round like that. The mothers just help keep it alive like in my setup, so I can flower different strains and keep the others dormant. Im about to be maxed out with 4 strains.

So my first two mothers are 8 months old and can continue to age for years, they can be replaced with new cuttings before genetics degrade, what ever keeps the “cut” alive. Usually special to just you, but in a bigger scenario, millions of dollars to a grow facility or breeder etc.

I can just buy new seeds of these strains or make my own and bean hunt to start over and get back what I had. So mothers are important.

Being the same clone of a plant it will produce nearly the same results given the conditions are optimal. So the flower and extracts produced will be the same and consistent.

Ive had half my clones finish later due to being in different tents and sizes and conditions. So itll take some tweaking to get it to finish in a strict schedule. With seeds even of the same strain you cant perpetuate as great.

Perpetuating is a way to split in half the time to grow a photoperiod which is a plant that requires change in light schedule to flower. It technically produces more weed quicker.

It does so by say, it takes 10 wks to flower this clone I have, and 8 weeks to grow it to prepare for flower. Instead of waiting 18 weeks for 14 oz I got 14oz at the 10 week mark and put 8 week old plants I grew in a separate space into the flower space…

I just got 14oz every 10 weeks instead of 18. Just requires another space to grow. Finding a good cloning method youll know when to take the cuttings and yes its cheaper than growing purchased seeds each time.

Making youre own seeds isnt that hard I almost did but you wont always get the same plant. Seeds only good for 1-3 years before germination rates drop. Its all up to you what you want to do, the weed world is yours lol.

Ive had less great strains and cloning is a way to make sure its always the same end product for all the effort. I just set a small space to bean hunt new genetics. Its a way to play it safe and have predictable results and low maintenence since you know what it needs start to finish.

What is "decarb trim?" I think my girlfriend does a similar process. We do it it with 20g of ground flower though. It usually lasts us a crazy amount of time. It only takes us about 1-2 drips from a dropper in the mouth to get a full day heavy buzz. Its a miracle for when I am having a flareup. I find with smoking flower that I have to re-up often and I build a tolerance. With the oils I for some reason get very high and have no tolerance gain which is quite nice to the wallet.


Decarb is decarboxilation probably spelled wrong but I just meant I harvest the plant, discard all the parts that have no use.. The flower is one product but the leaves with medicine on them that were trimmed off the flower is knows as trim.

I meant I simply decarboxilate that and infuse into coconut/lecithin oil to make butter. The lecithin I use sunflower lecithin it increases bio-availability making it effective for me and potentially stronger to regular individuals.

Though if you get that high off that little which is average, you probably wont notice, its strong with or without. For me if it doesnt have lecithin I wont get high.

Ive been treating some sleep issues with my edibles but also take recreationally. My buzz last like 1-2 hrs and lingers and dont take much either. I can eat myself sober so I try to enjoy whatever it provides. Thers many out there like me.

What is dabbing?

How do you like those sticky traps? My girlfriend ended up getting a plant that had a ton of gnat eggs or something because one day the whole house just was overwhelmed. It's since been taken care of; she used some kind of pest tea to kill the gnats and eggs in the plants/soil and then some giant yellow sticky traps but it was a bit of a nightmare for her. She was really stressing out over it. :/

Yea they got 90% of the gnats and this thing called mosquito bits, they go in the soil or coco etc and kill the larvae.

Its a common way to get rid of them, better to act asap than later like I did. Probably got babies but are probably now dying from the mosquito bits

Ya I have been having an absolute blast with the whole process, especially how deep the learning seems to go. It can be overwhelming at times, but I seem to enjoy the process even more so when I am overwhelmed! And also $8 dollars a day adds up! That is about $240/month and almost $3000/year! I don't think I am miserly or anything, but if you offer to pay me 250/mo or 3k/year to have fun and get to keep the product, I only have one thing to say: "hell ya!"

In regards to how much rosin you yield and the amount you vape, I have absolutely no idea how the measurements play out in real life. I should really try to pay attention to that.
Yea exactly! You have a good mind it does add up, maybe not enough to some. Some one said compound interest, those who understand it earn it and those that dont, pay it.
 

medidedicated

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I hope you can tell which comments are from me, not used to typing in this way but ya no worries Im actually known to type a lot and ramble. Nothing wrong with that! Some will read it some wont.

Its nice to type a long message now and then, theres not a whole lot of activity every day here but I dont like crowded places lol.
 

Sly Lycan

Member
Some pics of flower rosin and dry sift rosin. Dry sift rosin is resin separated from the flower material over a screen. Then pressed making a very pure and higher thc rosin.
Woah. Is that a hydraulic press in the background you use to do that? O.O What all can you do with the resin? I am expecting to have way too much flower, to the point I am going to be giving it away to some family and friends. The two little plants from my first grow weren't very performative, but just using it for the oil, it lasted us for like 2 years. We gave about a third or half of it to my girlfriend's mother as well lol. I am looking forward to seeing the different things I can do with it.


I hope you can tell which comments are from me, not used to typing in this way but ya no worries Im actually known to type a lot and ramble. Nothing wrong with that! Some will read it some wont.

Its nice to type a long message now and then, theres not a whole lot of activity every day here but I dont like crowded places lol.
LOL you are fine. It took me a moment to realize what you meant, but then I noticed the quote had extra stuff.
 

Sly Lycan

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Ah that's very interesting all of that, thank you for the information! I am pretty sure my girlfriend prepares the oil and butter the same way you do. Its very effective. She is a very research oriented person so she always ends up with the best process for something, its quite impressive. I am horrible with research, but she treats it like an art form lol.

I might have to give rosin a try to produce. That sounds like it would be fun as well. I also like the way you rotate the plants. I don't have the funds right now I don't think to keep two setups going. I have the space inside, just not the equipment and I already have soem money earmarked for after vacation for hopefully upgrading some things such as my lights.

In regards to the cloning you bring up a good point that even with the same seeds you don't know what you'll get. I did try taking a cutting of one of the plants a little bit ago and just popping it into a little of my leftover prepared soil and it seems happy so far. We shall see. I am not very hopeful, it was just a little spur of the moment experiment.
 

medidedicated

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Ah that's very interesting all of that, thank you for the information! I am pretty sure my girlfriend prepares the oil and butter the same way you do. Its very effective. She is a very research oriented person so she always ends up with the best process for something, its quite impressive. I am horrible with research, but she treats it like an art form lol.

I might have to give rosin a try to produce. That sounds like it would be fun as well. I also like the way you rotate the plants. I don't have the funds right now I don't think to keep two setups going. I have the space inside, just not the equipment and I already have soem money earmarked for after vacation for hopefully upgrading some things such as my lights.

In regards to the cloning you bring up a good point that even with the same seeds you don't know what you'll get. I did try taking a cutting of one of the plants a little bit ago and just popping it into a little of my leftover prepared soil and it seems happy so far. We shall see. I am not very hopeful, it was just a little spur of the moment experiment.
Yea like I said you could get a used smaller press for like $50 or a new one for like 100-200$. I spent a lot of money but its paying itself off as we speak.

You typically vape the rosin or use it for edibles topicals and the like. Thats great! I wish my stuff lasted that long lol. My habbits are expensive lol.
 
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