Exausting outside of grow room

medidedicated

medidedicated

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Ok Im noticing things here now. Why does chart say for 100ft I should use a 6ga cord to deliver 30a power but I bought a 10ga cord? I know chart is just rule of thumb but if thats ok, is it ok to get a 10 gauge regular 3 prong plug extention cord?

If so not too big a deal I can just buy another 100ft or two and figure this out easier see what I can get away with.
 

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medidedicated

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Yea I could still make this work if thats fine. Id think so being half the amps but Im not electrician. Its almost looking like makes more sense to just let a outage take out a grow and groceries.

Just lose 200$ and half or more of the flower cycle once or twice a year if that. Or spend what am I at.. $1100 for this now.

So now I need $300 more in cords and buy a mini fridge and freezer for like $300 each. $1700 for a outage prepared and thats if the gen dont crap out on you.

But thats what a cost effective route would look like compared to 15000 bucks for a standby gen. Whos gonna pay for that? Shit I really just dont think some times.
 
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formularacer

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medidedicated said:
Also longer run time too, idk why a tank is so scary to me. Im just not a power tool using person other than a jigsaw and power drill. Just anything dangerous Im not used to.

idk how to explain lol like working in factory vs desk work. Barely brave enough to drive and even then Im super careful. I didnt get to grow up riding dirt bikes quads loud things.

Spend a lot time indoors. Using this gen is going to be a adrenalin rush.
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I am a welder a race engineer so I spent a lot of time on a desk, sometimes the desk was a table and a chair at a race track.
Drove a truck and trailer with 55 gallon drum of race gas, multiple tanks of gas.

The day I was released from the hospital after my fake knee I was told not to use any power tools, my chair at home was too short so I used power tools that night to give them some height.

Tanks just need to be respected and they are no issue. Keep it secured and the regulator from damage, falling over or something falling on it.
The most important thing don't create a vessel that keeps CO2 in area have a way for it to exit if you displace all the O2 with CO2 you will create medical issues.
 
medidedicated

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How tonknow how many amps each circuit can handle? Is it the 15 listed on the breaker panel? Main switch says 100. So a 100amp model.

How do I know if Im overloading my room? Using like 2300w in my room. My fuse blew when I plugged in a vacuum by mistake so its one fuse one room.

This is fucked I thought I knew what I was doing. It said 15a per outlet but now Im seeing theres more to it then that possibly more likely.
 
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formularacer

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medidedicated said:
How tonknow how many amps each circuit can handle? Is it the 15 listed on the breaker panel? Main switch says 100. So a 100amp model.

How do I know if Im overloading my room? Using like 2300w in my room. My fuse blew when I plugged in a vacuum by mistake so its one fuse one room.

This is fucked I thought I knew what I was doing. It said 15a per outlet but now Im seeing theres more to it then that possibly more likely.
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You need to map out the circuit you are using. Turn it off and figure out which outlets are on the CB. It is supposed to be listed inside circuit panel.
Check a few you might find one used less and close to your needs.
 
Absorber

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medidedicated said:
How tonknow how many amps each circuit can handle? Is it the 15 listed on the breaker panel? Main switch says 100. So a 100amp model.

How do I know if Im overloading my room? Using like 2300w in my room. My fuse blew when I plugged in a vacuum by mistake so its one fuse one room.

This is fucked I thought I knew what I was doing. It said 15a per outlet but now Im seeing theres more to it then that possibly more likely.
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Sorry to pipe into the middle of the conversation but im an electrician by trade i might be able to offer some advice.
Is your grow in a shed with a dedicated circuit or is it a shared circuit with part of the house .
Easy way to check is grab a lamp or drill turn that circuit breaker off and go around checking what powerpoints arent working anymore .
Thats a good starting point and once thats sorted then you know how much current you have to play with .
 
Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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Don't forget, the 30\50 amp extension cords for generators are 4 wire. Made to split the load evenly, and share the same neutral. Not send the whole 30 amps through one single wire that would need a bigger gauge..
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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Absorber said:
Sorry to pipe into the middle of the conversation but im an electrician by trade i might be able to offer some advice.
Is your grow in a shed with a dedicated circuit or is it a shared circuit with part of the house .
Easy way to check is grab a lamp or drill turn that circuit breaker off and go around checking what powerpoints arent working anymore .
Thats a good starting point and once thats sorted then you know how much current you have to play with .
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No, youre good, I really appreciate the help and if you actually are an electrician this would make my day! I otherwise felt like I may have to get one involved anyway so I can sleep at night.

Its in a bedroom inside the house and blew the fuse to my room once by plugging a vacuum in not realizing the watts they use.

My whole room blacked out, nothing was on and everything was connected to a outlet. I cant say 100% if all outlets were dead but it didnt seem like anything was on.

I can double check though to be sure. The panel isnt labeled or its very vague barely tells anything. Possibly just what rooms share a fuse which mine didnt share with any. Any of this sound right? lol.

Also not everything is on 24/7.
 
Absorber

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medidedicated said:
No, youre good, I really appreciate the help and if you actually are an electrician this would make my day! I otherwise felt like I may have to get one involved anyway so I can sleep at night.

Its in a bedroom inside the house and blew the fuse to my room once by plugging a vacuum in not realizing the watts they use.

My whole room blacked out, nothing was on and everything was connected to a outlet. I cant say 100% if all outlets were dead but it didnt seem like anything was on.

I can double check though to be sure. The panel isnt labeled or its very vague barely tells anything. Possibly just what rooms share a fuse. Any of this sound right? lol.

Also not everything is on 24/7.
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Take a photo of your switchboard and put an arrow on breaker that tripped .
I will take a look.
And definatly check what other powerpoints run off that circuit like i discribed. Thats just for starters then i can help you work out your loads
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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Absorber said:
Take a photo of your switchboard and put an arrow on breaker that tripped .
I will take a look.
And definatly check what other powerpoints run off that circuit like i discribed. Thats just for starters then i can help you work out your loads
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#9 is the room the grow is in. Had to flip it back to get power back on when I tripped it.
 

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medidedicated said:
#9 is the room the grow is in. Had to flip it back to get power back on when I tripped it.
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So after you turn off that circuit and check what other powerpoints in other rooms run off it ,we can illiminate any additional loads from outside the room .
Or worst case scenario change the breaker that circuit is on to a 20amp breaker ( should use a an electrician) there might be one not being used on that board , a 2.5mm² powerpoint cable is actually rated for a 20a breaker so it wont be an issue and you can gain a further 5 amps .
But check what else is on the grow room circuit first
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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Absorber said:
So after you turn off that circuit and check what other powerpoints in other rooms run off it ,we can illiminate any additional loads from outside the room .
Or worst case scenario change the breaker that circuit is on to a 20amp breaker ( should use a an electrician) there might be one not being used on that board , a 2.5mm² powerpoint cable is actually rated for a 20a breaker so it wont be an issue and you can gain a further 5 amps .
But check what else is on the grow room circuit first
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So shut off the bedroom grow room and see what other rooms lose power to their outlets? Im on it!
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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Ok so my entire room, dead, bedroom beside it the lights are out but the outlet still works but theres on outlet of 2 I think that I cannot reach.

Everything else worked, hallway outlet, bathrooms, living room, everything else.

Nothing high powered in that other bedroom less than 100w Id guess. Just a bedroom.
 
Absorber

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medidedicated said:
One outlet in one room isnt accessible is that bad? Can I test just one outlet per room or is it possible they can be mixed wired? Nothing is plugged into it though.
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They could be mixed in the rooms and test them even if nothing in them so you know whats on that grow circuit then you can use power point inserts to blank off outlets from accidentally overloading circuit as it may be someone else or a stonners memory ;)
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