Should I chop early

FosterBD

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My outdoor strawberry cough, grown in 10 gallon fabric pot with ocean Forest and Fox Farm nutes. She had been flowering for about eight weeks. Lately I’ve had to remove parts that were starting to get Bud rot. I was debating on taking now to avoid anymore mold issues.. I’m just looking for some opinion on what would be the best way to proceed from here.
 

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mandocat

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My outdoor strawberry cough, grown in 10 gallon fabric pot with ocean Forest and Fox Farm nutes. She had been flowering for about eight weeks. Lately I’ve had to remove parts that were starting to get Bud rot. I was debating on taking now to avoid anymore mold issues.. I’m just looking for some opinion on what would be the best way to proceed from here.
If it were me I would spray every 2 days with Zerotol, which leaves no residue and can be used up to harvest. Stuff is a game changer for outdoor growing for me. I almost always get some bud rot here and there in my outdoor grows, thats normal. That plant needs a couple of weeks or so, the hairs are almost all white.
 

sirtalis

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My outdoor strawberry cough, grown in 10 gallon fabric pot with ocean Forest and Fox Farm nutes. She had been flowering for about eight weeks. Lately I’ve had to remove parts that were starting to get Bud rot. I was debating on taking now to avoid anymore mold issues.. I’m just looking for some opinion on what would be the best way to proceed from here.
Its a game of how much can you cut out without going insane. Bud rot is going to progress. Pay attention to the acceleration (i.e. every day its 2x worse) then make a judgement call on when to chop.

Is yield or quality your preference? I choose quality and remove a lot of colas just to get that last half of the plant to the finish line, sacrificing half my yield. I grow for family and friends though, and if money is your game you have a different set of choices.
 

Farmer's Hat

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Remove a lot of colas just to get that last half of the plant to the finish line.
I agree with this suggestion. The plant is looking pretty good. In the pictures I see some milky and amber trichomes. Odds are that you will lose more flower to bud rot if you wait another week or two before harvesting those top colas.
Botrytis is probably present in most of those dense colas, you just haven't noticed it. Its easy to miss in the early stages because it just looks like moisture trapped in the buds.

Dense flowers are difficult to finish outdoors. With your current set up you could try light deprivation and force flower earlier next year. Out here in the PNW experienced outdoor growers start light dep second week of July. Everything finishes strong in Sept before humidity spikes. Bud rot is still present, but in smaller quantities. Plant yield increases overall because the flowers are developing under the intensity of summer sunlight.
 
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FosterBD

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zerotol I’ll order some.I would rather let her go another week or two. I’ll give that a try, I’ve been spraying with the amazing doctor zymes eliminater and

thanks peeps
 

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Hugo Phurst

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Keep cutting out the rot.
Check every day, look for dying/dead brown leaves that go into the bud, get rid of all those yellow leaves too.
Too many white hairs to be near ready.
If you can make it, another 2 weeks will greatly improve the weed.

I'm bringing down two plants today because of rot, I've removed 4 or 5oz of bud to control it, but I'm sure it was worth the effort to get that last two weeks.

Good luck
 

RottyRzr

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Thanks everybody I’m going to try zerotol hc and try to make it at least another week.
I just received my jug of Zerotol HC. I lost two of my plants already to bud rot and now my Lao Highland sativa has come down with leaf septoria., I'm hoping this Zerotol will save it. My only other plant outdoors is an auto flower and I did find a small spot of bud rot on it. I removed the bud so now it will also get Zerotol. I've never used it before so I've got my fingers crossed!
 

mandocat

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I just received my jug of Zerotol HC. I lost two of my plants already to bud rot and now my Lao Highland sativa has come down with leaf septoria., I'm hoping this Zerotol will save it. My only other plant outdoors is an auto flower and I did find a small spot of bud rot on it. I removed the bud so now it will also get Zerotol. I've never used it before so I've got my fingers crossed!
Don't exceed the recommended mixing ratios and you won't burn your plants! I can tell you from experience that while Zerotol is great at PM control and helpful for other molds, it WON'T do a thing to leaf septoria! That was a tough summer's lesson. Also, just because your plant has septoria doesn't mean it can't finish and give you quality bud. The later in the season you get septoria, the better the plant does, I have found.
 

RottyRzr

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Don't exceed the recommended mixing ratios and you won't burn your plants! I can tell you from experience that while Zerotol is great at PM control and helpful for other molds, it WON'T do a thing to leaf septoria! That was a tough summer's lesson. Also, just because your plant has septoria doesn't mean it can't finish and give you quality bud. The later in the season you get septoria, the better the plant does, I have found.
I hate to hear that. Everyone told me Zerotol would treat septoria. Including zerotol information.
The reason I’m concerned about the Lao highland finishing is time. It will be cold before long and she has a ways to go.
I’m still trying the Zerotol on her. I’ve removed the affected leaves and branches.
 

curious2garden

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I hate to hear that. Everyone told me Zerotol would treat septoria. Including zerotol information.
The reason I’m concerned about the Lao highland finishing is time. It will be cold before long and she has a ways to go.
I’m still trying the Zerotol on her. I’ve removed the affected leaves and branches.
Absolutely try it! It can't hurt, just don't exceed recommended doses and best of luck.
 

mandocat

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I hate to hear that. Everyone told me Zerotol would treat septoria. Including zerotol information.
The reason I’m concerned about the Lao highland finishing is time. It will be cold before long and she has a ways to go.
I’m still trying the Zerotol on her. I’ve removed the affected leaves and branches.
I've spent the last 4 years battling septoria, read everything I could find, even talked to Agriculture professors at the University. Stuff that they said would work as a preventative I am not willing to use due to toxicity concerns. Eventually, I noticed a plant here and there only suffering minimal damage while plants right next to them were destroyed. Seems like I have found some quality genetics that are also very resistant and will be looking into those further next summer.
 

Clink78

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Nothing wrong with cutting early. The buzz will be the same, contrary to what others will have you believe.

I usually cut early due to my location on Earth. If I let them grow too long I’ll waste them anyway because of PM
 
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