Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 27.5%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 42 26.3%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 74 46.3%

  • Total voters
    160

VaSmile

Well-Known Member
Central va officaly skipped autum this year, 80f highs into the second week of november then first week of december hard frost every night. The low tomorrow is 16F that would be the low temp for the year most years. If i wanted to wear 2 sets of longjohns and 3 pairs of socks i'd move back to michagan at least they dont tax groceries up there
 

ttystikk

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Central va officaly skipped autum this year, 80f highs into the second week of november then first week of december hard frost every night. The low tomorrow is 16F that would be the low temp for the year most years. If i wanted to wear 2 sets of longjohns and 3 pairs of socks i'd move back to michagan at least they dont tax groceries up there
The weather is getting wild. I saw a paper from a couple of years ago that suggested larger variability in weather was a precursor to a step change in climate and I think that's the direction we're headed.

I don't like the sound of that, not one bit.
 

doublejj

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Exclusive: Trump may cancel US Postal Service electric mail truck contract, sources say

Dec 6 (Reuters) - Donald Trump's transition team is considering canceling the United States Postal Service's contracts to electrify its delivery fleet, as part of a broader suite of executive orders targeting electric vehicles, according to three sources familiar with the plans.
The move, which could be unveiled in the early days of Trump’s administration that begins on Jan. 20, is in line with Trump's campaign promises to roll back President Joe Biden’s efforts to decarbonize U.S. transportation to fight climate change – an agenda Trump has said is unnecessary and potentially damaging to the economy.
 

Aeroknow

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First tornado warning EVER in... San Francisco?! That's like hail on top of Mount Everest!

Weather is definitely getting crazy!
One touched down near my old childhood hometown. I grew up down the road.
 

ttystikk

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Your friendly buzzkill.

This is gonna be rough for Europe especially. Much of the continent is the same latitude as Canada rather than the US. Less well studied are the effects in the Caribbean but if I were to guess, warmer temperatures and slower currents mean higher sea levels, more intense hurricanes and less suitability for agriculture.

That's gonna suck for Florida, brother.
 

Nugnewbie

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The rich are trying their damndest to get richer, try to catch up to Elon, f' the environment.

The project was voted on previously and rejected. The environmental study stated the project shouldn't go forward.

The government changed the description of the mine to muddy the waters (pun intended) and allow it to proceed. The latest vote wasn't even in the same district, go figure. Burn that coal!
 
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ttystikk

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The rich are trying their damndest to get richer, try to catch up to Elon, f' the environment.

The project was voted on previously and rejected. The environmental study stated the project shouldn't go forward.

The government changed the description of the mine to muddy the waters (pun intended) and allow it to proceed. The latest vote wasn't even in the same district, go figure. Burn that coal!
Canada has trouble with renewable energy generation, simply because solar is the cheapest and Canada is far to the north. Wind isn't a full solution because it's both more expensive and more variable.

A lot of far northern countries are turning to nuclear power; expensive as it is, and it is extremely expensive, it's the only carbon neutral way to generate enough power through the winter.

If we want these places to not use fossil fuels, we need to provide them with affordable options.
 

Nugnewbie

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Canada has trouble with renewable energy generation, simply because solar is the cheapest and Canada is far to the north. Wind isn't a full solution because it's both more expensive and more variable.

A lot of far northern countries are turning to nuclear power; expensive as it is, and it is extremely expensive, it's the only carbon neutral way to generate enough power through the winter.

If we want these places to not use fossil fuels, we need to provide them with affordable options.
Yes, there's been some discussion up here about going with more nuclear power. It seems that those wanting to build data centers are fueling that talk. The city I live in built a whole new power substation a few years back running on natural gas (fossil fuel), then began selling almost the entire power output to a company mining bitcoin. If the big money interests believe a venture is viable, there will be new projects. Affordable? What are the costs of burning more fossil fuels? Blistering hot summers, with almost year round wildfire seasons? Yes, nuclear almost seems the way forward. Maybe we can get Elon to haul the radioactive waste to another planet. :blsmoke:
 

Ozumoz66

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Canada has trouble with renewable energy generation, simply because solar is the cheapest and Canada is far to the north. Wind isn't a full solution because it's both more expensive and more variable.

A lot of far northern countries are turning to nuclear power; expensive as it is, and it is extremely expensive, it's the only carbon neutral way to generate enough power through the winter.

If we want these places to not use fossil fuels, we need to provide them with affordable options.

Key facts
  • In 2022, Canada produced 639 terawatt hours of electricity.
  • 70% of Canada's electricity comes from renewable sources and 82% from non-greenhouse gas (non-GHG) emitting sources such as solar, hydro, wind and nuclear power.
  • Canada is the world's third largest producer of hydroelectricity. 62% of Canada's electricity comes from hydroelectric sources.
  • In 2022, Canada was the world's second largest producer and second largest exporter of uranium. Nuclear power plants generate about 13% of Canada's electricity.
  • Canada exports about 7% of the electricity it generates to the United States.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
My dad is actually one of the big guys whos worked as a nuclear power plant tech in the beginning (start of his career) than now does all the hydro electricity in the falls area, hes one of the big head haunchos now, lol

(he has nothing to do with me obviously)

but i do know a bit about it,from when he was involved in my life.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member

Key facts
  • In 2022, Canada produced 639 terawatt hours of electricity.
  • 70% of Canada's electricity comes from renewable sources and 82% from non-greenhouse gas (non-GHG) emitting sources such as solar, hydro, wind and nuclear power.
  • Canada is the world's third largest producer of hydroelectricity. 62% of Canada's electricity comes from hydroelectric sources.
  • In 2022, Canada was the world's second largest producer and second largest exporter of uranium. Nuclear power plants generate about 13% of Canada's electricity.
  • Canada exports about 7% of the electricity it generates to the United States.
Hey that's great! But growth is inevitable and inexorable. I imagine the best spots for hydro have been built so only limited opportunities remain- except as a form of hydro energy storage, where generation can be tailored to fill in for intermittent wind and solar production.
 

ttystikk

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Yes, there's been some discussion up here about going with more nuclear power. It seems that those wanting to build data centers are fueling that talk. The city I live in built a whole new power substation a few years back running on natural gas (fossil fuel), then began selling almost the entire power output to a company mining bitcoin. If the big money interests believe a venture is viable, there will be new projects. Affordable? What are the costs of burning more fossil fuels? Blistering hot summers, with almost year round wildfire seasons? Yes, nuclear almost seems the way forward. Maybe we can get Elon to haul the radioactive waste to another planet. :blsmoke:
Solid core nuclear is nasty shit because of the extremely dangerous nature of the actinides produced, plus plutonium and fissile isotopes of uranium created. In fact, that's a big reason why America went with the tech in the first place!

Molten salt reactors run at atmospheric pressure so no danger of boom and nasty fallout. If the power fails, there's a sodium plug that melts and dumps the core materials into containers, instantly and passively. It can't melt down. Even as it starts to overheat, the molten salt expands and moderates the reaction. Finally, molten salt reactors do a dramatically better job of burning the really nasty radioactive byproducts, leaving much less of them in the waste stream.

There's always fusion. Someday.

Long term energy storage is something humans don't do very well yet but if there's a need great enough, surely we can find a way.
 

injinji

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Yes, there's been some discussion up here about going with more nuclear power. It seems that those wanting to build data centers are fueling that talk. The city I live in built a whole new power substation a few years back running on natural gas (fossil fuel), then began selling almost the entire power output to a company mining bitcoin. If the big money interests believe a venture is viable, there will be new projects. Affordable? What are the costs of burning more fossil fuels? Blistering hot summers, with almost year round wildfire seasons? Yes, nuclear almost seems the way forward. Maybe we can get Elon to haul the radioactive waste to another planet. :blsmoke:
A new AI station in LA (the one with New Orleans) was promised to run on a nuke powerplant, but when it was time to build, they built a fossil fuel one instead.

I am so pissed at Goggle for not giving is an opt out option on their searches.
 
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