Late flower leaf problem.. same prob last couple rounds

[sizzilky]

Late flower im lacking something... im all organic no till... i do topdress every2 weeks and a tea every other water... ive been doing cal/mag.. not sure if i need to hit them harder or if im missing something.. it was fine at week 6... this is 1day before week 9

 

[Nutty sKunK]

Hmm. It’s a tricky one from those pics. You got any pics before it spread so much?

Brunt crispy tips like that is excess P usually.

Do you need calmag for your water source?

 

[sizzilky]

Hmm. It’s a tricky one from those pics. You got any pics before it spread so much?

Brunt crispy tips like that is excess P usually.

Do you need calmag for your water source?

Ive been doing dr earth flower girl teas.. the bag says a cup per gal... ive been doing 6-10 tbsp for 2 gal water... i think theres cal in dr earth.. i was doing epsoms but when i noticed i tryed some extra cal mag the last couple weeks... i do a top dress of 5-12 tbsp depending how dark green they are....here it is at 6 weeks

 

[sizzilky]

Ive been doing dr earth flower girl teas.. the bag says a cup per gal... ive been doing 6-10 tbsp for 2 gal water... i think theres cal in dr earth.. i was doing epsoms but when i noticed i tryed some extra cal mag the last couple weeks... i do a top dress of 5-12 tbsp depending how dark green they are....here it is at 6 weeks

U can see the plant thats cropped out doin the same thing on the left... heres the plant i replanted in that pot doing fine

 

[DeadHeadX]

Looks pretty burned. Might be over doing it with top dress and tea?

 

[Nutty sKunK]

Ive been doing dr earth flower girl teas.. the bag says a cup per gal... ive been doing 6-10 tbsp for 2 gal water... i think theres cal in dr earth.. i was doing epsoms but when i noticed i tryed some extra cal mag the last couple weeks... i do a top dress of 5-12 tbsp depending how dark green they are....here it is at 6 weeks

Have you used the soil multiple times? Looks like salts are accumulating. A sign is that the leaves curl like that instead of being flat.

You might be a bit enthusiastic with your feeding habits

 

[sizzilky]

Looks pretty burned. Might be over doing it with top dress and tea?

the only thing that makes me think its not that is i replant in the same container.. no till... and the next plant grows fine... would the next plant have some kind of problem?

 

[sizzilky]

Have you used the soil multiple times? Looks like salts are accumulating. A sign is that the leaves curl like that instead of being flat.

You might be a bit enthusiastic with your feeding habits

I have used the soil multuple times... i only use organic nutrients tho so shouldnt be any salt

 

[Nutty sKunK]

I have used the soil multuple times... i only use organic nutrients tho so shouldnt be any salt

There are salts in organic nutrients. It’s just they need to be broken down by microbes before being available. Salt based feeds are immediately available!

I’m not a no till expert but you may need to research on how to get excess nutrients/salts out of your soil

 

[sizzilky]

There are salts in organic nutrients. It’s just they need to be broken down by microbes before being available. Salt based feeds are immediately available!

I’m not a no till expert but you may need to research on how to get excess nutrients/salts out of your soil

Ok thanks i thought i was clear of that im gonna do some research and dial back on the teas for now i think.

 

[Kushash]

Ok thanks i thought i was clear of that im gonna do some research and dial back on the teas for now i think.

I agree with the others that the plant is over fed and has a salt build up.

There is a lot of mis information circulating about soil growing. The salt build up does not happen for growers that buy fresh soil each grow.
Soil does build up salts if reused and never leached of the buildup.
There is a simple test to find out. Water the plant slowly to runoff. Test the runoff E/C and compare it to the input E/C. You'll need an E/C or PPM meter. Test the runoff several times.
My bet is the runoff will be so high the meter will max out and give an over the limit reading.
When there is a salt build up the roots have trouble with water uptake and the soil needs to be leached.

 

[sizzilky]

I agree with the others that the plant is over fed and has a salt build up.

There is a lot of mis information circulating about soil growing. The salt build up does not happen for growers that buy fresh soil each grow.
Soil does build up salts if reused and never leached of the buildup.
There is a simple test to find out. Water the plant slowly to runoff. Test the runoff E/C and compare it to the input E/C. You'll need an E/C or PPM meter. Test the runoff several times.
My bet is the runoff will be so high the meter will max out and give an over the limit reading.
When there is a salt build up the roots have trouble with water uptake and the soil needs to be leached.

Ok thank you