Stay away from ILGM!!!!!!!

It's really not that crazy, cannabis seeds are one of the easiest things in the world to "counterfeit". Think about it, they all look more or less the same. It's easy to slap a popular strain name on a little mylar bag and claim it's something desirable that the unassuming customer would want. Ex: Sour diesel is popular right now, or the memory OF sour diesel, so they take whatever seedstock they have and slap a sour diesel sticker on the pack, steal a couple pictures off another grower or seed distributor, add a lengthy strain description and bam, new buyers who aren't hip to how the cannabis seed industry works buy them thinking its the real deal. Here's the real kicker, MOST growers can't get their hands on the real deal cuts of the strains they want, so unless they're particularly astute and pay attention to others grow reviews how would they even know? Meanwhile if you grew the original clone next to the seeds you popped they'd look nothing alike, smell nothing alike, and generally speaking be completely different in almost every aspect. Always be weary of a seed company who isn't A: a verified seed dealer for a specific breeder, and B: any seed company that claims to have every desirable strain under the sun but has no publicly known head breeder. Ex: Bloom seed co, well known for Grape Cream Cake/Tropicana Cookies has Harry Palms, Archive seedbank, well known for Dosido and Face off og and Rainbow Belts has Fletcher, Csi Humboldt, well known for their old school clone only varieties and Obama Kush has Caleb aka the nspecta, Seed Junky genetics, well known for breeding Wedding Cake, Jealousy and Permanent Marker has J Beezy. You see, those of us in the know have an awareness of who bred the strains we enjoy, or who has a solid reputation for putting out quality seeds who may be working with certain strains we want. We don't just Google a strain name and pick the first bright shiny page that pops up on the screen with guarantees lol sometimes we even do sketchy things like sending straight up cash in an envelope with a piece of paper with an order number on it for a strain with no description or shiny pics, based solely on the reputation of the breeder we're buying from and how much we like the parent plants of said strain. Crazy right?! Lol
Not that crazy sounding to me. When you know, you know. I haven't quite gotten there with weed breeders yet but I have heard of Nspecta and a couple others you listed. I used to do the cash in an envelope in the mail thing but was for Mushroom spores lol. Your message is nonetheless true. All the big name seed vendors are whole sellers that you can't expect to hit all the time. These companies even if they started with the right cut, don't pheno hunt and so everything looks different very often.
 
I previously defended ILGM / as I had great success on the first batch of seeds I ordered . Ordered the same strains the following year , and it was completely different and nowhere near the quality of the original batch . I now buy from exotic genetix , as everything I’ve grown from them has been phenomenal . I’ve never had herm issues , like others claim. We will see if down the road , that becomes a complaint - but as of right now , I have 5 strains of theirs I just sprouted
 
Yeah im so pissed spent 420$ on seeds from these assholes got 5 to pop i will never again buy their crap seeds
Ive never really had any issues getting ILGM beans ( or any others honestly) to sprout. Maybe im just lucky but the paper towel method has always worked for me. My issue with them was that every strain is an F1. NO two plants grown from 20 seeds ever looked the same. Many looked like totally different strains. More than just pheno drift. If youre running Photos id suggest trying Solfire, CSI Humboldt or Bodhi. If autos, then Mephisto,Speedrun and Night Owl. These companies have fantastic breeders and fire strains. ILGM sources from various breeders so theres no guarantee that the strain you bought last time will be from the same source this time. Im over my hating on them. I know what to expect from big white label seed vendors now. The weed wasnt consistant but it was decent. Might i ask how you germinated? Ive not had any issues with either ILGM strain germinating. You spent $420 with a company you hadnt vetted? I dont tend to spend much period lol but before id drop that much id want to try a couple runs. I would at least contact ILGM and use the warranty. They sent me 10 free ones when i bitched and complained about my order. Those were not the same as the ones i paid for. Still not great but better.
 
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