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Flower Rosin Man Cave
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About done. Just seeing what happens if I lower temp if it will raise yield. Just somethin I should do. It led to me seeing 5% increase in yield once but that was going from low temp to high. Thats typical. So I dont think itll do anything but short yield. Will see tho. Also debating in jarring some and giving to family for free gift.
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180F see no difference, just much less yield. It didnt even butter immediately like Ive had. Worth a shot so I can confidently delete the mother plant. Trying one at 200F. But yea why I do 220F it loosens it up so it can flow and get all of it out. Notice the rosin is close to the puck on this run because it couldnt flow like 220F.
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200F no difference maybe little more yield. 161.5g plant, 5.76oz. Bagged 7gs to give to fam for free its been a while since I gifted anything. Going to touch on my curing skills since its ready to jar. 60/60 makes it much easier to not miss the jar window.
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7.12% return 11.21gs off 157gs. Roughly. Not a keeper pheno but interested in finding it, the flavor is amazing which isnt usually the case with flower rosin. Lots of times its just not that great. So when it is thats a keeper trait, I take for granted. Because I just got my pheno before I even realized I needed to hunt for it.
People doubted I had a keeper but I kept growing it since. Id keep growing it if I didnt lose it but maybe I didnt we will see end of this run if theres any hope. The flower yield was about 5.87oz if to add this quater Im giving away. Thats great, if I get something like that on top of 27% yueld would be killer. Looking for 7-8oz plants.
People doubted I had a keeper but I kept growing it since. Id keep growing it if I didnt lose it but maybe I didnt we will see end of this run if theres any hope. The flower yield was about 5.87oz if to add this quater Im giving away. Thats great, if I get something like that on top of 27% yueld would be killer. Looking for 7-8oz plants.
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I freaking love flower rosin. Rosin in general. 
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Shit, was a long night mostly due to party mode for a couple extra hours. Just dabbing and then TV time. So I forgot to add the pic of this. The final product aside from test pressed set aside. 9.5gs. Suuper fire bro. Taste and potency is as good as it gets. Just need 27% yield. This is 7%.
Overwelming peppercorn zest with fermented grape jelly. Smells like it just smelling the rosin. Was a pleasure to collect which is another plus. Its still very soft for something that collected so easy. Only thing I dont like is it limps over when planting clones.
That would bother me each run but I seen it in like 3 strains now. My watermelon just dont do that. Maybe need to learn to harden them off a bit first. The flavor so strong or its just been a while since I had something new but mostly suspect the flavor so strong it lingers a few dabs.
Meaning I have to have a few watermelon dabs before I can start to taste it rather than the jellysickle still. Never had that happen, a little nauseating but it is a pretty unique interesting flavor. Ive dabbed veriaty and just not had that other than when the dispesery put fake terps in the dabs I bought but not as bad as that.
The fake terps were insanely worse but just a note. My watermelon is just crazy delicious without being overwhelming. Maybe I get used to the jellysickle flavor overload. my watermelon just taste like og kush after taste and this one is peppercorn fermented grape jelly sometimes candy jelly moments of taste.
So thats just its after taste but when you want something else I just cant taste my watermelon for a few dabs. Im circling a bit I just want to describe it but its hard. Maybe thats all I can say.
Overwelming peppercorn zest with fermented grape jelly. Smells like it just smelling the rosin. Was a pleasure to collect which is another plus. Its still very soft for something that collected so easy. Only thing I dont like is it limps over when planting clones.
That would bother me each run but I seen it in like 3 strains now. My watermelon just dont do that. Maybe need to learn to harden them off a bit first. The flavor so strong or its just been a while since I had something new but mostly suspect the flavor so strong it lingers a few dabs.
Meaning I have to have a few watermelon dabs before I can start to taste it rather than the jellysickle still. Never had that happen, a little nauseating but it is a pretty unique interesting flavor. Ive dabbed veriaty and just not had that other than when the dispesery put fake terps in the dabs I bought but not as bad as that.
The fake terps were insanely worse but just a note. My watermelon is just crazy delicious without being overwhelming. Maybe I get used to the jellysickle flavor overload. my watermelon just taste like og kush after taste and this one is peppercorn fermented grape jelly sometimes candy jelly moments of taste.
So thats just its after taste but when you want something else I just cant taste my watermelon for a few dabs. Im circling a bit I just want to describe it but its hard. Maybe thats all I can say.
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bignugs68
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Old post reply, but what do you do with the pods? Is there even anything that could be done with it? Surely some THC is still stuck in those babies, or is it miniscule so not worth it?
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People usually press lower temps then press again high temp or not even that. Due to already pressing high temp I get it all out. I tried pressing a whole pile and only got like a gram, it was much less flavor and potency. Not worth it.
With dry sift it is though, I always repress because I get a good fat dab at the very least or more. Like a half gram or little more if lucky. Its still good flavor and potency. Just not with flower pucks.
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You could make edibles out of them but I evolved understanding that edibles is another type of hash. If theres no hash theres no edibles really, if you tested and compared lab results.
Plus plant matter tears my stomach up so I only make it with hash or fresh flower/trim. If flower/trim I process very gently so theres barely any grains of plant matter in the butter. Clean as possible and I have no issues.
If you processed a QP to get a gram of low quality hash re pressing pucks, youd only need a quarter oz or so of fresh material to make the equivelent. Maybe less like an eighth as you can really only do 14gs per half cup coconut oil.
So only 14gs of pucks is not really any hash. I actually only use about an eighth to a quarter oz because its just as good but quality. Too much is bad for you anyway.
Plus plant matter tears my stomach up so I only make it with hash or fresh flower/trim. If flower/trim I process very gently so theres barely any grains of plant matter in the butter. Clean as possible and I have no issues.
If you processed a QP to get a gram of low quality hash re pressing pucks, youd only need a quarter oz or so of fresh material to make the equivelent. Maybe less like an eighth as you can really only do 14gs per half cup coconut oil.
So only 14gs of pucks is not really any hash. I actually only use about an eighth to a quarter oz because its just as good but quality. Too much is bad for you anyway.
Trevordoom
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I started pressing around 195°F and held for about 2 minutes—got way better flavor and yield than I expected. Keeping flower humidity around 62% helped too.
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I wish I could re do this thread. It starts off with me just making some trash lol. Dry it 60/60 and it shouldnt be black like that. Im learning rediculously advanced stuff since I last posted but generation of clones matter.
Im dabbing on the older stuff thats black and buttery in stripes trying to butter. Its got this freakin flavor thats bonkers and uts not even dried right.
I recovered a clone a couple generations younger so it might yield more and be that live resin like stuff; I used to get. Mothers only last like 5-10 generations or 5-10 years.
Many could disagree but its only something Il note if your dabs only like me. So why not just learn how to breed and breed with that mother? If no good just squeeze the life out of it in clones for 5-10 yrs and retire it.
If I could just have a IBL already made then great, no breeding needed. A golden rule to breeding is dont do something thats already been done, its a waste of time.
You could just easily find two moms in a pack of 5 or 10 and reverse one to pollinate the other.. You got seeds for life time now just doing that. Youd reselect moms every 7-10 yrs for your production of goods and thats it.
Create more when germ rates drop every so often like 5 yrs or about 7-10 if you want to push it. Its all about security and maintenance of a strain but it couldnt be easier for you and others.
Im dabbing on the older stuff thats black and buttery in stripes trying to butter. Its got this freakin flavor thats bonkers and uts not even dried right.
I recovered a clone a couple generations younger so it might yield more and be that live resin like stuff; I used to get. Mothers only last like 5-10 generations or 5-10 years.
Many could disagree but its only something Il note if your dabs only like me. So why not just learn how to breed and breed with that mother? If no good just squeeze the life out of it in clones for 5-10 yrs and retire it.
If I could just have a IBL already made then great, no breeding needed. A golden rule to breeding is dont do something thats already been done, its a waste of time.
You could just easily find two moms in a pack of 5 or 10 and reverse one to pollinate the other.. You got seeds for life time now just doing that. Youd reselect moms every 7-10 yrs for your production of goods and thats it.
Create more when germ rates drop every so often like 5 yrs or about 7-10 if you want to push it. Its all about security and maintenance of a strain but it couldnt be easier for you and others.
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hostagecs
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thats how other people learn also tho, lots and i mean lots of people don't show the growth process
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Yea its all happening so fast but Il hit my road blocks soon too. Just cant rush anything, if it herms, start over. Even if it rodelizes. I guess reputable breeders will show their work and engage in community, they call it transparency. I guess my project will be suuuper transparent which is a good thing.
Really its my unique need for dabs that fueled this. Also ended up being a unique opportunity to really have a need to breed for it. I could see my work if done right in other peoples grow and breeders can use my line in their IBL projects.
I dont see a need to gate keep knowledge. Why lose customers over herms if you can edjucate them on how it goes, the increadible amount of difference between all the phenos.. Even if its just a pollen chuck just say so lol. They made 100$ off me but the next breeder after being edjucated got $600, the next about the same..
It just would speed up the process and actually breed with purpose again. I havent looked into just how bad it is like, are all strains just going to be unstable some day? It seems like its only harder and harder to find something that truely doesnt herm which is crucial for building a breeding foundation on..
Even if done right there will be offspring that herms but when youre purposely breeding them its just becoming a big mess. Lots of unhappy customers and only a few that got a unicorn. Those clean genetics are about as valueable as the outlier performance Im looking for yet harder to find I bet.
I bet that will be the biggest problem to work on but if I do that thats what makes or breaks the project. I dont want to do it for clout, I have to do it right for my self which just so happen to align with a product that should do decent globally.
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To specify what Im after, its flower rosin. There are no IBLs with that trait and why work so hard to get 20-25% yield. Only to lose the moms that could of been bred with potentially. Just go after the best, 8oz flower or more per plant and 30% flower rosin yield of course very potent and tasty.
All it takes is some back crossing and pheno hunting and you can narrow the phenos down to basically all the same.
Traits that keep themselves over various conditions. No need for special lights or excessive ppfd. Infact minimal lighting should provide the same results. Ive seen it in my first pheno so its possible trait Ive observed. I want to be some of the first to incorporate it to the name what the hash makers purpose is.
I found a shadey IBL 17 generations inbred says hash makers dream, the typical “loaded with trichomes” etc. Thats vague and doesnt tell me what Im going to get out of it for MY extract purpose. The line is thin between the two, or should I say 3 or more. We got bho, bubble hash, hash rosin, flower rosin, dry sift rosin, live hash rosin and to less popular extent things like qwiso.
You aint got no hash makers dream dude. You got a project aimed at all of us and you want a few hundred for a small pack beans. No feed back, no one here has heres of them. Im not risking that. Its also not great to highlight it was in bred 17 times. That means it was probably bitch to stablize, probably had to out cross at some point. No transparency.
So other than that no real IBLs or even a BX 3 to narrow it down much more than a S1.. I got the only thing I found that aligns with everything here discussed. I might get lucky with some other genetics laying around. Il need to start 2 strains as if I need to outcross to battle in breed depression Il want to incorporate traits that are close to what I seek. It will require less inbreeding over generations to stabliize.
Thats why there arent enough IBLs, there arent enough breeders. I hope to be the guy that convinces others to try, idk. Its not that hard and could change the game for you from just a hobby to get stoned to taking it to the next level. The highest level, shit, idk how much higher this can get.
All it takes is some back crossing and pheno hunting and you can narrow the phenos down to basically all the same.
Traits that keep themselves over various conditions. No need for special lights or excessive ppfd. Infact minimal lighting should provide the same results. Ive seen it in my first pheno so its possible trait Ive observed. I want to be some of the first to incorporate it to the name what the hash makers purpose is.
I found a shadey IBL 17 generations inbred says hash makers dream, the typical “loaded with trichomes” etc. Thats vague and doesnt tell me what Im going to get out of it for MY extract purpose. The line is thin between the two, or should I say 3 or more. We got bho, bubble hash, hash rosin, flower rosin, dry sift rosin, live hash rosin and to less popular extent things like qwiso.
You aint got no hash makers dream dude. You got a project aimed at all of us and you want a few hundred for a small pack beans. No feed back, no one here has heres of them. Im not risking that. Its also not great to highlight it was in bred 17 times. That means it was probably bitch to stablize, probably had to out cross at some point. No transparency.
So other than that no real IBLs or even a BX 3 to narrow it down much more than a S1.. I got the only thing I found that aligns with everything here discussed. I might get lucky with some other genetics laying around. Il need to start 2 strains as if I need to outcross to battle in breed depression Il want to incorporate traits that are close to what I seek. It will require less inbreeding over generations to stabliize.
Thats why there arent enough IBLs, there arent enough breeders. I hope to be the guy that convinces others to try, idk. Its not that hard and could change the game for you from just a hobby to get stoned to taking it to the next level. The highest level, shit, idk how much higher this can get.
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You cant call a f1 polyhybrid a hash makers dream even if all parents are known to be heavy resin producers. If Im going to find a plant thats like a 1 in 2500 chance it better be a flower rosin makers dream. Probably wont be. This is why some get 15% average and drule over those that get 30% over many strains.
Im like man, Id start a project off those but when you just get it handed to you.. I can see where it could push one to go above and beyond. Like not only do I want 30% I want it in every seed. So mothering and making more seeds is easily done over a life time. This changes my game and anyone else into this.
Im not on cutting edge shit here or maybe I am in the sense that we will see more hash dedicated projects. Me though? Im not gonna be the next purple haze, but if the flower rosin scene explodes I could make a name for myself.
Really, live resin and hash rosin will always be at the top. I find you get less in return and flower rosin shouldnt be that high in impurities to where you should say my extra hash yield isnt even actually hash. You can do the math your self and really dive into it and see. It took me a couple years to really be able to break it down and its still a lot to break down.
So I only break it down sometimes. I dont want to be a broken record. Flower rosin yields more hash. If I somehow broke that stigma jn the industry.. You commercial hash makers could make more product for your efforts. Oh I also found recently that washing takes the same amount of labor as pressing flower rosin.
So I dont even feel like Im applying excessive labor compared to a washer. If anything its faster and easier you dont got to clean up the washer and bubble bags and etc. You still have to press a bunch of bags of bubble and collect it all. Any getting off topic.
There will always be room for others Im just the start of it. The start of hash specific breeding. Theres no money in selling hash its dirt cheap around me. Wait till its flooded around you. Might as well just change the game and make it easier on all of us.
Im like man, Id start a project off those but when you just get it handed to you.. I can see where it could push one to go above and beyond. Like not only do I want 30% I want it in every seed. So mothering and making more seeds is easily done over a life time. This changes my game and anyone else into this.
Im not on cutting edge shit here or maybe I am in the sense that we will see more hash dedicated projects. Me though? Im not gonna be the next purple haze, but if the flower rosin scene explodes I could make a name for myself.
Really, live resin and hash rosin will always be at the top. I find you get less in return and flower rosin shouldnt be that high in impurities to where you should say my extra hash yield isnt even actually hash. You can do the math your self and really dive into it and see. It took me a couple years to really be able to break it down and its still a lot to break down.
So I only break it down sometimes. I dont want to be a broken record. Flower rosin yields more hash. If I somehow broke that stigma jn the industry.. You commercial hash makers could make more product for your efforts. Oh I also found recently that washing takes the same amount of labor as pressing flower rosin.
So I dont even feel like Im applying excessive labor compared to a washer. If anything its faster and easier you dont got to clean up the washer and bubble bags and etc. You still have to press a bunch of bags of bubble and collect it all. Any getting off topic.
There will always be room for others Im just the start of it. The start of hash specific breeding. Theres no money in selling hash its dirt cheap around me. Wait till its flooded around you. Might as well just change the game and make it easier on all of us.
hostagecs
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for me im not after yield but raw flower, i would be happy with a plant that has crap yields but banger flower for my needs
