hostagecs
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Some plants do better than others, the long beans are 3rd generation the pintos at the bottom that look dead where just Harvested 4th gen. Cotton is trying to come back it's first gen but 2 years old
Long Term Mother Care
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medidedicated
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I was thinking that at some point, a nice pop corny nug strain could do well for a lot of folks outdoors. Or just whatever works for them. I figured this concept could work for whatever your goals are as long as its not too complicated, idk if trying to fix too many triats adds selection pressure
I looked into all this and from what I gather, youre just saying my IBC will need to be bred for outdoors or even so much as soil indoors etc. Im basically cloning my setup, I know the grower will need to do dtw coco, similar temps and lighting. All why I realize keeping my setup super basic helps.
Im not after creating a versitile product its super dialed in to flower rosin. Feels like a easy space to dominate, no one sees the value like me in it I guess. Some do but the industry doesnt. Feels like the ball is in front of the soccer goal post and everyone is too caught up to see the straight shot into the goal I have. Or at least put pressure to by just being so open about my project.
It wont be bred for smoke, bubble hash and hash rosin or BHO etc. Its a very narrow pool no one wants to base a project on. They try to just do one size fits all and not even IBL or IBC it. Even umami if recall right doesnt have any. Your hunting for a pheno you dont know what its going to do for rosin sometimes.
Sometimes its just bubble hash but Il give it to them, theyre talking numbers which is a hash makers paycheck. Otherwise its like getting your paycheck in monopoly money. They dont always tell you what to expect tho, its all very vague no one is really on this. Ive been looking for this magic pheno since I started pressing 2 years ago its just not out there.
There are no hash breeders like this. I just woke up one morning after the other back and forth like no, Im tripping Im not the first. Then yup I actually am and this is a valid project. I tried asking another member about the only IBL I found that lines up with this and its very vague what I am to expect. Just littered with marketing hype. I was told meh they wouldnt risk it.
Breeding is a lot of fun. Its full of surprises and thats what makes it so thrilling, to me.
Something I am witnessing first hand is that when breeding is done outdoors, strains adapt to that region. It is one of the best ways to create a highly unique IBL. Growing indoors is great for producing really clean flower, but from my experience breeding solely indoors is truly a terrible way to develop an IBL. The selection process will always be flawed because the plants are not exposed to the elements and pests. This is an aspect that shouldn't be overlooked.
Having said that, almost every home grown crop is indoors. So to some extent, breeding solely indoors is acceptable because most plants will be grown indoors (under similar conditions).
Developing an IBL the traditional way, without selfing, is a much more nuanced and longer process. I personally enjoy the traditional way of developing and IBL. I dont have much experience with selfing, other than a few projects where I produced FEM seeds for friends.
Looking forward to see how your projects develop. I follow many breeders, from the highly well known to the talented and humble.
I looked into all this and from what I gather, youre just saying my IBC will need to be bred for outdoors or even so much as soil indoors etc. Im basically cloning my setup, I know the grower will need to do dtw coco, similar temps and lighting. All why I realize keeping my setup super basic helps.
Im not after creating a versitile product its super dialed in to flower rosin. Feels like a easy space to dominate, no one sees the value like me in it I guess. Some do but the industry doesnt. Feels like the ball is in front of the soccer goal post and everyone is too caught up to see the straight shot into the goal I have. Or at least put pressure to by just being so open about my project.
It wont be bred for smoke, bubble hash and hash rosin or BHO etc. Its a very narrow pool no one wants to base a project on. They try to just do one size fits all and not even IBL or IBC it. Even umami if recall right doesnt have any. Your hunting for a pheno you dont know what its going to do for rosin sometimes.
Sometimes its just bubble hash but Il give it to them, theyre talking numbers which is a hash makers paycheck. Otherwise its like getting your paycheck in monopoly money. They dont always tell you what to expect tho, its all very vague no one is really on this. Ive been looking for this magic pheno since I started pressing 2 years ago its just not out there.
There are no hash breeders like this. I just woke up one morning after the other back and forth like no, Im tripping Im not the first. Then yup I actually am and this is a valid project. I tried asking another member about the only IBL I found that lines up with this and its very vague what I am to expect. Just littered with marketing hype. I was told meh they wouldnt risk it.
medidedicated
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Yea I realized at one point one could breed just for their outdoor environment. Idk, like popcorny nugs versus donky D’s to avoid budrot like most strains do. Etc. It would be similar to my project. Just all about your goals and the rest fall in place. Just selecting and stabilizing traits. Some times you may find the opportunity is in your hands to breed something that really doesnt exist yet.
This doesnt have to be just for hash, everyone will wake up one day and find a reason to breed. Just let it hit you when it does.
This doesnt have to be just for hash, everyone will wake up one day and find a reason to breed. Just let it hit you when it does.
Farmer's Hat
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Popcorny nugs is one solution. Another solution is a well bred plant that flowers earlier in the season.
Also, greenhouses or simple tarp set ups to protect the plants from rain is another solution. Force flowering (light deprivation) is also another solution.
Bud rot isn't really an issue for experienced growers. My main concern is really the lack of resistance to pests, mold, and pathogens, because an indoor environment is much more sterile. A well-bred IBL should have great resistance to the aforementioned. That's just my opinion.
Breeding an IBL specifically for rosin production is really fascinating. I wouldn't even know where to start, honestly.
hostagecs
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medidedicated
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Ive been seeing budrot for me was caused by gutation from increased root pressure. Turns out with extra circulation and decent rh like 45-55rh its fine. I do dtw coco tho.
medidedicated
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I guess selfing and backcrossing is a IBC and the best method to achieve my goals. The traditional IBL will make more diverse range not much tho but idk its not much different but yea, the long way. Im just using a recurrent mom to back cross its key rosin traits into offspring till its all there.
I have to find the identical mom in offspring a few times then gets easier and easier. Selfing something can create as much as one put it, 1/350 phenos or something like that. It gets cubed fast tho. Luck is a factor but amazing when it happens, so you can move to next step.
Il only be able to grow about 25 phenos a year.. Just use the one that yields 30% flower rosin along with all other traits, no herming, consistent under less ideal conditions. I just checked out a NL IBL says high resin output.. Lol but its reg seeds so probably traditional ibl not based on my specific project thats guarenteeing it if its successful.
I can only hope it works out that way without needing to cross together. Then Id have 3 strains, cross them and make a 3rd one thats a f1 true hybrid. That can produce big ass plants in a large no tent setup like a commercial grow. Would be good for outdoors too if it was selected with that in mind like one said.
So yea its pretty simple my goal, its a trait, to stabilize quickly. Dont cross any herms, no tosin yields remotely below 30% if thats my goal. Its a stretch but possible I seen above 30% but it becomes suspect, like is your freakin scale off? lol. So yea my rosin press is like a tool for this. A flashlight in a pheno hunt in the dark into its genetics.
Due to my extract proceedure being super easy straight forward, I know when Im getting true numbers from it. Or if its due to mishandling the bud before that stage, nope, weaved out. Bubble hash and hash rosin and live hash rosin has too many variables to pin point if its just the way it washed.
BHO was a easy market to serve, its like bho in terms of simplicity. They just didnt make one for flower rosin yet. People will tell me on here every now and then how theyre flower rosin lovers. That its a true full spectrum extract as when you wash or drysift, you get a different refined flavor. There are tons of flower rosin lovers on reddit Ive been meaning to vibe with them over there.
They be druling along with me when someone posts a 28% or more flower rosin smash. You just tend to get flattered and think its something youre doing or its just easy , not much thought out into it. Become the middle man and help us all get those numbers please and thank you. Plenty of winner phenos being wasted could of been bred with to make this project I speak.
Itll be a stretch, I cant just rush it. If anyone of my traits arent met, I must reselect. So I think thats what the parameters of a project like this would look like. It should be consistent flower rosin yueld until you lose the genetic make up that produces that.
One those genes get broken in laymens terms, something like the trait that made the tricomes more fat, easier to seperate and flow like a river, to small tough to break greasy tricomes being produced instead, it wont work. SOMETHING like that thats not exactly the explination but close.
All I know is Ill see it on the press. Get geeked as fuck and breed with it if it passes stress test. So much as rodelizing 3 weeks past 100% orange hairs, its not breedable. Cant cut corners, this isnt for clout and it will be appearent when you watch me say nope repeat step, not ready.
I have to find the identical mom in offspring a few times then gets easier and easier. Selfing something can create as much as one put it, 1/350 phenos or something like that. It gets cubed fast tho. Luck is a factor but amazing when it happens, so you can move to next step.
Il only be able to grow about 25 phenos a year.. Just use the one that yields 30% flower rosin along with all other traits, no herming, consistent under less ideal conditions. I just checked out a NL IBL says high resin output.. Lol but its reg seeds so probably traditional ibl not based on my specific project thats guarenteeing it if its successful.
I can only hope it works out that way without needing to cross together. Then Id have 3 strains, cross them and make a 3rd one thats a f1 true hybrid. That can produce big ass plants in a large no tent setup like a commercial grow. Would be good for outdoors too if it was selected with that in mind like one said.
So yea its pretty simple my goal, its a trait, to stabilize quickly. Dont cross any herms, no tosin yields remotely below 30% if thats my goal. Its a stretch but possible I seen above 30% but it becomes suspect, like is your freakin scale off? lol. So yea my rosin press is like a tool for this. A flashlight in a pheno hunt in the dark into its genetics.
Due to my extract proceedure being super easy straight forward, I know when Im getting true numbers from it. Or if its due to mishandling the bud before that stage, nope, weaved out. Bubble hash and hash rosin and live hash rosin has too many variables to pin point if its just the way it washed.
BHO was a easy market to serve, its like bho in terms of simplicity. They just didnt make one for flower rosin yet. People will tell me on here every now and then how theyre flower rosin lovers. That its a true full spectrum extract as when you wash or drysift, you get a different refined flavor. There are tons of flower rosin lovers on reddit Ive been meaning to vibe with them over there.
They be druling along with me when someone posts a 28% or more flower rosin smash. You just tend to get flattered and think its something youre doing or its just easy , not much thought out into it. Become the middle man and help us all get those numbers please and thank you. Plenty of winner phenos being wasted could of been bred with to make this project I speak.
Itll be a stretch, I cant just rush it. If anyone of my traits arent met, I must reselect. So I think thats what the parameters of a project like this would look like. It should be consistent flower rosin yueld until you lose the genetic make up that produces that.
One those genes get broken in laymens terms, something like the trait that made the tricomes more fat, easier to seperate and flow like a river, to small tough to break greasy tricomes being produced instead, it wont work. SOMETHING like that thats not exactly the explination but close.
All I know is Ill see it on the press. Get geeked as fuck and breed with it if it passes stress test. So much as rodelizing 3 weeks past 100% orange hairs, its not breedable. Cant cut corners, this isnt for clout and it will be appearent when you watch me say nope repeat step, not ready.
medidedicated
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Consistent yield until you lose the moms genetics broken down after at most, 10 generations. Like my original topic of thread until it turned into a breeding one. Thats another thing, Long Term Mother Care. I might have to reselect a recurrent mom due to it being lost after 8 generations 8 years maybe 10 if Im lucky. So I have to be quick but only so much I can do and put the rest in lucks hands.
cdgmoney250
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Not to derail your thread, but there are many clones out there that have been around for decades. Like 20-30+ years. This wouldn’t be the case if everything degraded significantly with every new gen of cloning. Sour D, OG Kush, and Blue Dream are all about 30+ years old. People would not keep them around if they degraded so much to the point of “dudding”, or losing 50% yield.
There are a number of means, grow styles and techniques that can keep plants expressing at or close to their original genetic expression. Tissue Culture, Meristem Culture, plain old organic cloning without added hormones, and sunshine/soil come to mind. If your plants are losing that much vigor to the point they seem like different phenotypes a few generations down the road, I would be questioning your long term care techniques. Generational cloning can and to a small degree does cause minuscule amount of epigenetic changes, but usually pests/diseases, viruses or overall poor gardening practices are what’s causing most people to experience “drift” or “degradation”, in my personal opinion. But the original DNA is still there. Plants can be “revived”.
medidedicated
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Ive been getting carried away but have yet to prove that yields are stagnant until something like this happens. I was still learning to be a hash maker and about reached the end of road on that, flower rosin is rediculously simple. I have yet to mother a pheno, see that it can be as unpredicable as my pheno has been lately.
I suspect it shouldnt and am already hunting for something new. My breed project has pressure but whats nice is I can live off the plants until I get yields that only need one grow per year. I have nothing to lose playing with them.
Thing is, bud doesnt need hash to be potent. It can have zero hash and get you baked. Hash making is new. So is hash breeding, Im stoked to possibly really be the first on it. Im looking for critique I dont like false sense of everything.
To be fair tho, I have yet to hear answers to my questions from hash makers and breeders. Youd be the second person to chime in to then not be able to answer the simple question, or hopefully you could, have you had a pheno keep its extract yield for 10 plus years, preferabbly 15 to 20 years before I start to believe Im just over reacting.
No one seems to be able to answer. I know hash isnt being bred for at this level. Hash makers first goal is to find a keeper, a needle in the hay stack. Why? Why cant I find it within 25 phenos. Why could it take 100 or more to find something decent, and hundres maybe thousands more to find the best yield. What do you want, less yield? If you see smoke as trash its a smack in the face to get nothing but smoke and no hash.
Ive been getting carried away but have yet to prove that yields are stagnant until something like this happens. I was still learning to be a hash maker and about reached the end of road on that, flower rosin is rediculously simple. I have yet to mother a pheno, see that it can be as unpredicable as my pheno has been lately.
I suspect it shouldnt and am already hunting for something new. My breed project has pressure but whats nice is I can live off the plants until I get yields that only need one grow per year. I have nothing to lose playing with them.
Thing is, bud doesnt need hash to be potent. It can have zero hash and get you baked. Hash making is new. So is hash breeding, Im stoked to possibly really be the first on it. Im looking for critique I dont like false sense of everything.
To be fair tho, I have yet to hear answers to my questions from hash makers and breeders. Youd be the second person to chime in to then not be able to answer the simple question, or hopefully you could, have you had a pheno keep its extract yield for 10 plus years, preferabbly 15 to 20 years before I start to believe Im just over reacting.
No one seems to be able to answer. I know hash isnt being bred for at this level. Hash makers first goal is to find a keeper, a needle in the hay stack. Why? Why cant I find it within 25 phenos. Why could it take 100 or more to find something decent, and hundres maybe thousands more to find the best yield. What do you want, less yield? If you see smoke as trash its a smack in the face to get nothing but smoke and no hash.
medidedicated
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Are you a hash maker, do you strictly turn every bud of the plant to hash, what numbers donyou see from a fresh pheno and then again 10 generations down the line. How about 15 plus? Mine was always 12% then I hand trim and get 20% like it always wanted to. Because I hand trimmed the first sample and was 20%.
Machine trimming skewed my results and stole half my hash for a few runs but as soon as I did full plants I got 20% plants. But as quick as I found that, I started losing it immediately. Now if I machine trim Il get less than 12%. Something is wrong, very wrong, this NEVER happened before even with machine trimming.
Yall will see lol. If no one wants to be the frenchy canoli of flower rosin, Il be it. That sounds redundant but lol flower rosin is pretty damn good. Ive dabbed it all and this stuff is just as good.
Machine trimming skewed my results and stole half my hash for a few runs but as soon as I did full plants I got 20% plants. But as quick as I found that, I started losing it immediately. Now if I machine trim Il get less than 12%. Something is wrong, very wrong, this NEVER happened before even with machine trimming.
Yall will see lol. If no one wants to be the frenchy canoli of flower rosin, Il be it. That sounds redundant but lol flower rosin is pretty damn good. Ive dabbed it all and this stuff is just as good.
medidedicated
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And if you read, yes, my pheno was torchured been tru it all so its actually possible this is real. Just 2 yrs of poor handling and bugs and clones of clones can lose your pheno. You can ask any AI it wont steer you wrong. It can be wrong sometimes but bro, Ive never had it say its possible its something else.
medidedicated
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You dont think its a little redundant to work hard to find a keeper for hash because it yielded high only for it to yield barely anything suddenly? And just never know what ur going to get but its already 3 of 4 plants yielding that low.
So this run I have 6 plants yea, of this keeper that should never be gone genetically so its possible yield will just sky rocket again. Its just gone now as if I beef grinded the buds in a machine trimmer except they look fine, grew fine but oh well. Im on to uncharted territory but people saying Im not but they suggest so when all they can say is “it simply didnt produce it.”
Ive said that before as a learning hash maker until I realized its very potentially not. If you havent been making hash for 2.5 yrs I simply am ahead of you. You cant be good at everything its why Im not very good at producing smoke. Id have to lend ears all day to learn about that from another but thats not what Im here for.
Theres barely if any hash makers to talk to who are in this on my level. Ive made over a pound of hash and should of made two but was still learning. If you have insight on actual breeding and how things to be considered before they go south, let me have it. When it comes to clones breaking down to lose hash is the question, not if there are clones that are 30 years old that grow, look and smoke/smell the same.
If it were that simple I think loads of people that miss road kill skunk wouldnt of lost it. Infact I learned genetics are more of a snapshot in time that the next generation takes over and creates the next. Some of those clones you mention indeed probably will go kaput someday soon and infact Im already seeing different peoples idea of the real gg4.
This where anyone can breed, traits are something we are always chasing after. Its something you maintain. If it were ever truly stable to begin with. Even then at some point it has to move on. Ive never seen the gg4 I had that was so great look anything like the best phenos online. Its like it was re-bag appeal - affied. Mine was truly chocolate gas that tickled your stomach but it didnt look all that.
So this run I have 6 plants yea, of this keeper that should never be gone genetically so its possible yield will just sky rocket again. Its just gone now as if I beef grinded the buds in a machine trimmer except they look fine, grew fine but oh well. Im on to uncharted territory but people saying Im not but they suggest so when all they can say is “it simply didnt produce it.”
Ive said that before as a learning hash maker until I realized its very potentially not. If you havent been making hash for 2.5 yrs I simply am ahead of you. You cant be good at everything its why Im not very good at producing smoke. Id have to lend ears all day to learn about that from another but thats not what Im here for.
Theres barely if any hash makers to talk to who are in this on my level. Ive made over a pound of hash and should of made two but was still learning. If you have insight on actual breeding and how things to be considered before they go south, let me have it. When it comes to clones breaking down to lose hash is the question, not if there are clones that are 30 years old that grow, look and smoke/smell the same.
If it were that simple I think loads of people that miss road kill skunk wouldnt of lost it. Infact I learned genetics are more of a snapshot in time that the next generation takes over and creates the next. Some of those clones you mention indeed probably will go kaput someday soon and infact Im already seeing different peoples idea of the real gg4.
This where anyone can breed, traits are something we are always chasing after. Its something you maintain. If it were ever truly stable to begin with. Even then at some point it has to move on. Ive never seen the gg4 I had that was so great look anything like the best phenos online. Its like it was re-bag appeal - affied. Mine was truly chocolate gas that tickled your stomach but it didnt look all that.
medidedicated
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I highly doubt anyone in the hash making game is making their best with a clone that came from josey whales plant himself. They all moved on to new genetics that dump. Generations of gg4 as a influence to peoduce hash. No body made a IBC just for my extract method. Or any extract method for that sake. I dont even think its on purpose some really think theyre delivering you a hash bred strain.
Theres no such thing or its unavailable. Hash was never bred for, only deliberetly used as watered down genes where tons express less than optimal amounts.
Dont mean to get ahead of my self just trippy, I made a thread asking about rosin pressing. I got tons of insight from community. No one has taken it to this level to where I could come back and answer myself with this insight. No clout, Im more antisocial and dont really like talking to a lot of people, gossip drama etc. Im being pushed to realize all this and would much rather of it been done already.
To where they could of said yes buy a rosin press and buy these genetics and youll be happy. End of story.
Theres no such thing or its unavailable. Hash was never bred for, only deliberetly used as watered down genes where tons express less than optimal amounts.
Dont mean to get ahead of my self just trippy, I made a thread asking about rosin pressing. I got tons of insight from community. No one has taken it to this level to where I could come back and answer myself with this insight. No clout, Im more antisocial and dont really like talking to a lot of people, gossip drama etc. Im being pushed to realize all this and would much rather of it been done already.
To where they could of said yes buy a rosin press and buy these genetics and youll be happy. End of story.
medidedicated
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@Wastei makes hash, flower power Idk them too well nor spoke to them Id tag but idk their full name its not coming up. @xox I think makes hash but more bubble, temple balls. I already asked jjgrow420 about this, said it could be something else but thats it and not definitively. They never said they had a pheno for over 10 yrs for hash making and saw such sharp decline in yield suddenly.
Any thoughts? Ive seen dry sift yield variously personally, its too random. Bubble hash Id think is similar, you could easily vary in yield enough but have you ever declared a lost pheno? I do flower rosin but bho would be the closest to me in terms of randomness. It was predictable to me up til 5th generation of a real beat up clone of clones bug infested for 4 generations.
Im tagging people, Im trying. Trying to make use of the community so I can say I really tried at least. I didnt think to ask them till now.
Any thoughts? Ive seen dry sift yield variously personally, its too random. Bubble hash Id think is similar, you could easily vary in yield enough but have you ever declared a lost pheno? I do flower rosin but bho would be the closest to me in terms of randomness. It was predictable to me up til 5th generation of a real beat up clone of clones bug infested for 4 generations.
Im tagging people, Im trying. Trying to make use of the community so I can say I really tried at least. I didnt think to ask them till now.
medidedicated
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I pressed 15 strains, only one did this good to keep. Thats something to consider but I bought over a thousand in genetics twice. They all say the same BS. I figured just growing as many phenos possible of one strain is best as I learned about how results vary. To where some people just never get close to great results.
Ive seen people say so. Should I grow 1 pheno of each strain 25 a year just to see if its just me not trying enough variety? You can never find reviews that show above 15% or any reviews at all. Not even pics of it being a frost monster like the breeder pic. Thats kinda a parrallel too to what Im saying.
I started realizing people find that one pheno out of over a thousand. You are washing every pheno to know those are the stable results across the whole gene pool? Its unspoken you know to pheno hunt for it. I didnt know but at least I can give more hope to find it in the beans I have which is a good thing.
I get fustrated, but I learned. I wont bash a breeder if I get herms like people always do. When I dont yield hash that makes it to where I can just grow once a year like a normal person, I get fustrated. I didnt mean to be rude but yea. Ive scanned the entire market for what I want and its not much to choose from.
Ive seen people say so. Should I grow 1 pheno of each strain 25 a year just to see if its just me not trying enough variety? You can never find reviews that show above 15% or any reviews at all. Not even pics of it being a frost monster like the breeder pic. Thats kinda a parrallel too to what Im saying.
I started realizing people find that one pheno out of over a thousand. You are washing every pheno to know those are the stable results across the whole gene pool? Its unspoken you know to pheno hunt for it. I didnt know but at least I can give more hope to find it in the beans I have which is a good thing.
I get fustrated, but I learned. I wont bash a breeder if I get herms like people always do. When I dont yield hash that makes it to where I can just grow once a year like a normal person, I get fustrated. I didnt mean to be rude but yea. Ive scanned the entire market for what I want and its not much to choose from.
cdgmoney250
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Sorry there’s way too much to try to reply to.
Check out Bloom Seed Co if you haven’t already. A lot of their strains are bred for terpenes and hash. Like most of them. I’ve also heard and read great reviews about how their strains are great for hash, including rosin pressing. There are a ton of Reddit threads on their strains as well. Lots of people saying that breeder makes dumpers.
Disclaimer: I’ve never ran their strains before. Nor do I press rosin or make hash.
I just wouldn’t go trying to re-invent the wheel.
medidedicated
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I appreciate the help, I run into a loop sometimes. This a big task rather I decide to breed or mother a plant and take a break. I already checked out bloom seed co, its the same problem. None of their strains are inbred theyre all f1 poly hybrids just like any other one.
I dont do bubble hash or hash rosin, I do flower rosin. Il be hunting for something that might not even do what I already had best before.
Im starting to realize a hole in my project is I really havent grown that many phenos or strains. Ive been searching for flower rosin top yield for years and never once did anyone suggest bloom seed co because they personally can pull up reviews of people yielding what I seek.
People can yield 30% rosin on a strain so I spent 100$ of a 5 pack popped one and got a 7% herm and they didnt believe me. They said they dont think they are lucky something Im doing wrong. Well to be fair, I lost my first mom, its a hard experience to go thru. Finding a new one for the first time truly is stressful.
medidedicated
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Yea I just checked again theyre all just crosses. Think of it like a hash pollen chuck. Its a fact, 1000 phenos is a optimal starting point to look thru a cross like that meaning there are more than a thousand expressions. A chunk are all duds, the biggest chunk is average and last chunk it outlier high in a special way.
Aka whole point of breeding because thats how our flower gets better and better through out time. So yea what Im realizing here is no different for other hash folks. No ones made a IBC for them. When we are talking thousands of expressions, with a small grow, you could be spending years looking for that mother.
I dont yield enough to take a break since I lost mom. So it dont matter what I decide to do so might as well start a project. I had a real keeper because she also dumped flower yield so you just got your stash jars loaded up. It was enough to stick with for ten years I thought.
Quickly seeing I cant because I lost the pheno already. So what if I breed my own doing a life time of mom hunting to then spend rest of my life easily replacing lost mothers and stash up and shut it down just do once a year. Except with more security.
Aka whole point of breeding because thats how our flower gets better and better through out time. So yea what Im realizing here is no different for other hash folks. No ones made a IBC for them. When we are talking thousands of expressions, with a small grow, you could be spending years looking for that mother.
I dont yield enough to take a break since I lost mom. So it dont matter what I decide to do so might as well start a project. I had a real keeper because she also dumped flower yield so you just got your stash jars loaded up. It was enough to stick with for ten years I thought.
Quickly seeing I cant because I lost the pheno already. So what if I breed my own doing a life time of mom hunting to then spend rest of my life easily replacing lost mothers and stash up and shut it down just do once a year. Except with more security.
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