Chop this week? Is there enough amber trichomes, or would you wait longer

[cat shit]

You dont want to grow those seeds, they have likely hood of doing that again. If you want to save just clone a good plant and keep a mother plant. Or make your own but properly with good genetics but the herm trait can always come out but not with a good clone.

THis looks pretty close to me what do you guys think? Chop this week or wait even longer

Mickfoster has good info. as far as I am aware proper hermie seeds aren't desirable to grow but rodelisation seeds are fine. Here is a seed I grew out from a cheese photoperiod crop that threw out some nanners late flower she came out fine with no nanners like the herd she came from.

 

[medidedicated]

Rodelization is still herming. I dont think it gets passed down as a trait other than the herming in general. So in my project which will be tough but I have to get rid of any herms including rodelization. I have to grow a few weeks passed 100% orange hairs to check for that. Youd be passing on the trait to herm under stress which true females dont have.

So it could end up even worse than the plant it came from had expressed. So when breeders are like yea thats normal just rodelization they all do that. Im sure they didnt breed with a unstable mom that did that or else thats cutting corners. Id think this explains why almost everything I grow, herms.

 

[medidedicated]

I thought I was in a different thread I dont even recall being on this thread. How did I know that in May? I just started learning about this like late July lol. Anyway, nanners in last few weeks harvest is not rodelization, thats a straight herm.

So is the rodilization but thats on purpose, blatenly going 3 weeks passed all orange hairs which will show a real herm other than other stressors. I surely wouldnt grow this with other plants you dont intend to lose to seeding.

 

[medidedicated]

Kinda like if I said oh herming from seed is normal it happens. It never seeded again tho even under stress so I should be able to breed with it right? No because I could give this cut to someone else and have it herm rediculously. You dont want to grow out herme they are supposed to be purged.

You dont perform selective perpetuating of a herm, you dont select thru herms theyre all bad to grow or breed with. If you must find something to get by that does check all other boxes try growing a clone, it might be selective to your grow. It might not herm because its suitable to ur grow and just hermed due to accumilation of stress like germinating for example, is a stressful event.

Let alone all the other stressors you unloaded on it from that generation that made it herm. Its poised to not become much more than that, it shouldnt leave your grow to enter the general genome which has enough of that already. Its already normal to show up in offspring but when its purposely bred with its not for the small home grower. Which already could get nothing but herms from time to time.

Id guess thats why some breeders have less herm-receipts tied to their name.

 

[BongerChonger]

Good luck! Hope they stay that way.

Rhodelization is a made up, cannatalk grow technique, originating from Dutch breeding. (Soma I believe)

But guess what. It also says out there it doesn't work for all female plants <<< That should be enough to tell you something's wrong with the breeding technique.
A true female, aka "dioecious" female will never herm on their own. Can't be done.
A true female can't seed itself on it's own. Can't be done.

On the topic of plant gender, a plant which expresses both flowers on the same plant, is monoecious.
Not Dioecious.
Meaning not female. It's intersex.

I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble. Just pointing something out.
Hell, I've got a cutting currently, which came from bagseed and hermed late stage.
But I think it's important to know what they are. And what they're not.

If you were to perpetually "rhodelize" your plants and produce seed, over and over, without a male, how is that not intersex?
How isn't rhodelization describing an intersex scenario?
What makes those plants which rhodelize female if they can self seed?
Where's the male?

They'll tell you it's a natural survival mechanism and the plant when stressed will herm to preserve itself and set seed.
Reality is it's a numbers game.
In a population there will be both dioecious and monoecious plants.

I've only witnessed a few "true hermaphrodite" plants. Meaning separate male and female flowers on the same plant.
But I've grown lots of plants that have "hermed" and thrown a few balls or bananas.
They're not Dioecious and shouldn't be regarded as female.

 

[hostagecs]

Good luck! Hope they stay that way.

Rhodelization is a made up, cannatalk grow technique, originating from Dutch breeding. (Soma I believe)

But guess what. It also says out there it doesn't work for all female plants <<< That should be enough to tell you something's wrong with the breeding technique.
A true female, aka "dioecious" female will never herm on their own. Can't be done.
A true female can't seed itself on it's own. Can't be done.

On the topic of plant gender, a plant which expresses both flowers on the same plant, is monoecious.
Not Dioecious.
Meaning not female. It's intersex.

I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble. Just pointing something out.
Hell, I've got a cutting currently, which came from bagseed and hermed late stage.
But I think it's important to know what they are. And what they're not.

If you were to perpetually "rhodelize" your plants and produce seed, over and over, without a male, how is that not intersex?
How isn't rhodelization describing an intersex scenario?
What makes those plants which rhodelize female if they can self seed?
Where's the male?

They'll tell you it's a natural survival mechanism and the plant when stressed will herm to preserve itself and set seed.
Reality is it's a numbers game.
In a population there will be both dioecious and monoecious plants.

I've only witnessed a few "true hermaphrodite" plants. Meaning separate male and female flowers on the same plant.
But I've grown lots of plants that have "hermed" and thrown a few balls or bananas.
They're not Dioecious and shouldn't be regarded as female.

i just learned so many things and new words

 

[BongerChonger]

i just learned so many things and new words

I have to correct myself about hermaphrodite plants. I thought it was fully formed male and female flowers on separate parts of the same plant.
Like a whole branch being male for instance. I've only ever grown a few plants like that myself.
Hermaphrodite plants have both pistils and stamen in the same flower.
But hermaphrodite or not, they're still monoecious plants having both male and female flowers.

https://plantura.garden/uk/green-living/knowledge/monoecious-and-dioecious-plants <<< This explains it better than I can.

Angiosperm sexual systems

I like this one, sounds familiar right? - "However, the male and female flowers of monoecious plants do not always appear at the same time, on the same branch, or even at every stage of the plant. This is because even if a plant develops both types of flowers, inbreeding must be avoided in order to produce healthy offspring. Therefore, many monoecious plants develop the flowers of one sex first, followed by the flowers of the other sex after a period of time (dichogamy)."