How much dryback is okay?

Avering

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Im using pro mix with less than a third worm castings and gave the soil a bunch of perlite. the plants have gone a week since their last watering. They are beginning to wilt but I figure they can wilt much more than this before I give them water. Should I let them wilt all the way like the plants in the third picture? Those plants used to get like that every day before I put them in 5 gallon bucket SIPS. Thanks always for the guidance you guys I am always learning from you all.
 

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Im using pro mix with less than a third worm castings and gave the soil a bunch of perlite. the plants have gone a week since their last watering. They are beginning to wilt but I figure they can wilt much more than this before I give them water. Should I let them wilt all the way like the plants in the third picture? Those plants used to get like that every day before I put them in 5 gallon bucket SIPS. Thanks always for the guidance you guys I am always learning from you all.
You dont want wilting in soilless mediums good way to burn your plants up like i see in your pics
 
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You dont want wilting in soilless mediums good way to burn your plants up like i see in your pics
These are the same wilted plants from the third picture in the OP.. they would recover regardless of the wilting. From what I gather it’s not good for the soil to go completely dry but is soil “dead” after it goes dry to a certain point? I’m asking what point should they be watered? Before they begin to wilt?
 

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No......it's peat moss.
so what would be the difference ingredients wise in a soil mix that didn’t use peat moss ?? I don’t understand, I call the dirt from my backyard soil and it has peat moss mixed in it that has been composted over time. And worm castings/cow manure. I still call the stuff in my containers soil regardless if it’s just pure peat moss, ewc and castings
 
No, sphagnum peat moss is not technically a soil but rather a soil conditioner made from partially decayed sphagnum moss that accumulates over time in bogs. It is a popular gardening product used to improve soil structure, water retention, and aeration, but it has low nutrient content and an acidic pH.
 
No, sphagnum peat moss is not technically a soil but rather a soil conditioner made from partially decayed sphagnum moss that accumulates over time in bogs. It is a popular gardening product used to improve soil structure, water retention, and aeration, but it has low nutrient content and an acidic pH.
I see. Thank you. So I shouldn’t be letting this stuff dry all the way like that crazy picture I posted. Lol
 
Over drying is bad for the microbes, bad for the ecosystem of soil, bad for the roots and def stressful but people do dry batch watering if they are doing semi hydro and promoting the plant to do such, are u running organics? Since soil is prolly capped u might wanna put a tray under each pot and let the plants/soil absorb it otherwise it’s gonnea runoff quickly and not really absorb if that dry. if u don’t have try’s water lil but in and than poke little holes with a hand rack/bamboo or w/e and that will let the medium absorb when capped. Ite good to let ur plants search and promote to search for water but key is once you have well established roots in pot size u should be letting the medium be light but not too dry and than water . lif your pots when they are fully saturated than relist per day and you’ll def know when the plant/medium needs it. if you transplant into to big of pot and water to often your gonnea promote bad root system and also many over watering issues. So my suggestion for current is like above, since wilting water in, if it’s runoffing too fast and ur medium is inputting it thn u might have to have water in trays/foood table and let them absorb or multi times water and poke lil holes so the water will break the medium dry cap
 
Over drying is bad for the microbes, bad for the ecosystem of soil, bad for the roots and def stressful but people do dry batch watering if they are doing semi hydro and promoting the plant to do such, are u running organics? Since soil is prolly capped u might wanna put a tray under each pot and let the plants/soil absorb it otherwise it’s gonnea runoff quickly and not really absorb if that dry. if u don’t have try’s water lil but in and than poke little holes with a hand rack/bamboo or w/e and that will let the medium absorb when capped. Ite good to let ur plants search and promote to search for water but key is once you have well established roots in pot size u should be letting the medium be light but not too dry and than water . lif your pots when they are fully saturated than relist per day and you’ll def know when the plant/medium needs it. if you transplant into to big of pot and water to often your gonnea promote bad root system and also many over watering issues. So my suggestion for current is like above, since wilting water in, if it’s runoffing too fast and ur medium is inputting it thn u might have to have water in trays/foood table and let them absorb or multi times water and poke lil holes so the water will break the medium dry cap
I believe this would be considered organic since its just peat moss and worm castings with perlite. I see a buddy of mine uses bamboo in his pots and always wondered if it was to hold the sativas up or to give oxygen to the root zone. I’ll definitely keep the weight of the pots wet/dry in mind.. thank you
 
Technically soil is made up of various rock mineral particles consisting of sand, silt, and clay, with the addition of decayed organic materials. Your "potting soil" is really a peat based potting mix, and therefore technically not soil.

As far as watering, there's zero reason to let them wilt. You want to water before they get stressed, not after.
 
I believe this would be considered organic since its just peat moss and worm castings with perlite. I see a buddy of mine uses bamboo in his pots and always wondered if it was to hold the sativas up or to give oxygen to the root zone. I’ll definitely keep the weight of the pots wet/dry in mind.. thank you
If u pit straw:leafs ontop and put living worms in there the worms will move around and toce ya free poo and aerated the soil by moving around . Being organic u dont want to over dry
 
If u pit straw:leafs ontop and put living worms in there the worms will move around and toce ya free poo and aerated the soil by moving around . Being organic u dont want to over dry
Yeah I think I’ll grab some of my wiggles from outside and put em in there. Kinda scared cause I had to remove a plant today that was fuckin covered in aphids I didn’t even notice. Ordered some lady bugs
 
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