Aerocloners unite!!!

[anhedonia]

it comes with 2 spinners, a submersable pump and can root up to 8 cuttings at once. Everything is still in the exact condition it came in. like i said i only used it for a little over a month.

 

[Return of the Spork]

Just took another pass of 35 cuttings. This time I am using the EZ-Clone replacement collars instead of my own which seem to seal better yet be more gentle on the stems. I also have misted the plant the last few days and it has been on a flush for a few days as well. Supposedly something about less N makes them root better or something.

Hopefully those changes will fix it, I don't know how much more I can refine it. If this doesn't work then I must be doing something else wrong because I can't believe it is the cloner anymore.

 

[newweedman]

no success with my cloner all have died.. i will try again next time with a cycle timer not sure what cycle though all i tried was with stim root and ph'd water in a aerocloner

8/8 dead

What is the temp in your water, and is there any humidity to help start the roots?

 

[marchold]

Just took another pass of 35 cuttings. This time I am using the EZ-Clone replacement collars instead of my own which seem to seal better yet be more gentle on the stems.

How are they looking now?

I started a batch of clones in a bubbler several days ago the one with the UV sterilizer and carbon filter and it is looking ok, I plled out 3 of the 20 clones as they looked bad. Also I took some clones 3 weeks ago and about 1/2 the clones in coco died, but both of the clones in those root riot plugs rooted and are growing well. I ordered some more of those plugs.

 

[Return of the Spork]

Technically only 2 full days have passed, coming up on three. All of them look alive and well. Perky, green, no sign of wilting or mold or anything. But also no roots yet. I didn't expect anything this soon, I am just hoping last time was the last failed attempt as I had planned to be running the op for a month by now. Instead I just have 3 mothers, lots of failed clones, and 1 flowering plant that will finish at the end of the month. Everything is waiting on the clones.

 

[grandpabear3]

mine are 4 days away from the 3 week mark and nothing still. god hates me...lol

if these dont make it i'm in trouble. i am gonna try that expensive ass root excelurator next, then i'm all out of ideas and money...lol

 

[hoots123]

well weird i checked on mine and didnt even really water them much like 1 time every day for 1 minute.. and sometimes no water for like 2-3 days and i checked and 3/8 of them had roots.. i chucked most the other onse since there just a bunch of crunchyness.. but still weird none the less that even 3 survived.. ill try again some other time.

 

[grandpabear3]

well good luck to you. i got 2 with bumps....pretty dismal

 

[marchold]

Technically only 2 full days have passed, coming up on three. All of them look alive and well. Perky, green, no sign of wilting or mold or anything. But also no roots yet. I didn't expect anything this soon, I am just hoping last time was the last failed attempt as I had planned to be running the op for a month by now. Instead I just have 3 mothers, lots of failed clones, and 1 flowering plant that will finish at the end of the month. Everything is waiting on the clones.

I have grown on and off for many years and I have always had trouble with cloning. So much so that I basically have to grow differently because of my shitty clone success rate. I have a tip that may work for you as it has worked for me for years. It is nothing to brag about because I get like 10% or 20% success rate. But I do get enough success that I can flower and keep growing, just not SOG like I would like. Here is what I do:
1, Clone in to well drained soil, coco, or root riot plugs in coco or RW.
2, Use 4" pots and fill them to the brim so the soil is flush with the container. Or 4" RW cubes.
3, After cutting the clones in a regular way and putting in the pots cover each clone with a humidity tent made from plastic cups or plastic baggies.

This works for me because I was getting 0% success rate because a few of my clones would die and something would rot them and kill all the other clones. By keeping each one in its separate humidity tent they do not cross contaminate. I take like 50 to 100 clones in 3 batches and end up with 5 to 10 good clones. This should get you budding if the cloner does not work for you.

 

[Return of the Spork]

I am(was) extremely bummed that this isn't working. Aerocloner seemed foolproof, details seemed to be on the spot. Apparently there is something out of my control or something too small to notice that is making aero not work for me.....


Initially Al promised success and a bag of chips if you did his RW method. They all died on me very quickly.

Then I saw a bubbler thread that was getting great success, built it, no success. Just sat there forever until they finally just died.

Then I saw aero thread, made aero and have done multiple tries, multiple improvements. Temp is constantly monitored, R/O water, PH'd, pathogen free, no light leaks, fine ezcloner misters, ezcloner collars, low intensity floro light. Tried cycling it, tried humidity doming some of them. At one point it looked like I had root bumps but they just never developed.

I had bought some rapid rooters and tried a handful and didn't get great success. However I didn't do it full out as I was using most of my equipment for the aero. Once I made room I did the rapid rooters in a tray with low intensity floros quite a bit away, with a humidity dome. The room and cloning area naturally stays around 77ish, but gets decent air circulation due to a fan. I opted against a heat mat unless I didn't get results. I misted the dome a couple times a day, exchanging air. Day 6 I took dome off completely, Day 7 I had a root poking out of the bottom of one of them and they all look great. Aero cloner....some look great, some went mushy, some yellowed to death. The stems on the bottom in general all look the same as they did or completely white. No roots tho.

So my journey is coming to an end. Maybe I will fuck around with the Aerocloner to try to get the results I dreamed of, but otherwise RR's were extremely easy to clone with and got me results in 1 week wheras I have wasted a month and a half elsewhere. As easy as cutting and plugging into an aero setup sounds, the RR method overall is so much simpler, especially considering I had to build my aero shit, and the RR method involves cheap RR plugs and stuff I already had. Glad it is over and glad I can finally get the SoG on its way.

The small 4 cola jack mother that I flowered ended up at 3oz dry, curing atm. that should hold me over

 

[Return of the Spork]

I have some more news....

I found out why I wasn't getting roots.....






....I already had roots.

Apparently on most all of the pucks, when I opened them up to take the stems out to trash them, most all of them had roots grown into the ez-clone collar, and then stunted because they couldn't grow through them.

I will be continuing with the RR most likely due to that it takes up very little room and appears to be simple and effective. But in case my needs ever grow large enough I might want to use the aero again and most definitely don't want the roots growing from the puck.

How do I get the roots to grow from the stem below the puck and not up high inside of it?

 

[newweedman]

I have some more news....

I found out why I wasn't getting roots.....






....I already had roots.

Apparently on most all of the pucks, when I opened them up to take the stems out to trash them, most all of them had roots grown into the ez-clone collar, and then stunted because they couldn't grow through them.

I will be continuing with the RR most likely due to that it takes up very little room and appears to be simple and effective. But in case my needs ever grow large enough I might want to use the aero again and most definitely don't want the roots growing from the puck.

How do I get the roots to grow from the stem below the puck and not up high inside of it?

Did you cut a big enough clone? Should be at least 3inchs and most of the stem should be below the collar. Also make sure that the stem of the clone is in the middle of the pre-cut hole on the collar, your problem may have been that they were pinched. Dont give up dude, you will get it and once you do you will master this shit.

 

[curious.george]

Hey update here, (note: I used to post as marchold) on the UV thingy and my cloning experiments, I am now getting 100% success (I used to consider 50% good for me). I figured I should share what I learned. First the UV water sterilizer is keeping my water clean. I am using this one:

http://www.ioffer.com/i/71219841
this UV thigy is not critical but it has been nice I did not change my water in my bubbler after the first batch of clones succeded and my 2nd batch is now poping roots it is so cool that me water just stays clean, its like super low maintaince.
and a aquarium heater set to 84.

I was trying the ez-clone colliers as well as some plugs, and rockwool. Finally I tried these "Sunleaves super starter plugs" I just soak them in ph 5.5 water for 1 minute and then squeeze them out put the clones in them. It seems these plugs have been magic and are clearly the most important aspect.

it seems like I can do just about anthing that does not keep them too wet and I get roots.

any of you guys want more details? I have been struggling with clones for years and it is finally woking great. yeee ha

 

[Return of the Spork]

Long live rapid rooters, all of my clones popped fast and strong. Finally time for a real sea of green

 

[curious.george]

Long live rapid rooters, all of my clones popped fast and strong. Finally time for a real sea of green

No Shit! I have been struggling with these plants that are all different sizes. I am so psyched that my next grow will be a sea of grean. Hurray!

 

[purpdaddy]

No Shit! I have been struggling with these plants that are all different sizes. I am so psyched that my next grow will be a sea of grean. Hurray!

if you want to do the SOG you might want to vegg. them a lil longer unless you gettin a shitload of clones cause that is a very very low yielding way.Do a lil reasearch, and then again it might be perfect for you if thats what you wanna do..just lettin ya know before ya feel me!

 

[curious.george]

if you want to do the SOG you might want to vegg. them a lil longer unless you gettin a shitload of clones cause that is a very very low yielding way.Do a lil reasearch, and then again it might be perfect for you if thats what you wanna do..just lettin ya know before ya feel me!

I do vegg. I was thinking of veging them to about 18 inches. I was planning on producing 20 clones every 3 weeks. And starting the rotation with that.

But that said, how come everybody with the "pound every3 weeks" threads does SOG for bigger yield. Also a lot of other sources point to SOG as a harvest increaser?

 

[grandpabear3]

per plant its less of course but when you can pack 4 per sq ft then it starts workin your favor.

 

[Return of the Spork]

Main reason I am doing a low/no veg sog is the nature of my growspace. 400w so my light penetration is okay but no 1k. So I really am not comfortable getting the plants very big. If the yield is super lame I will adjust, but otherwise I think this will give me a bigger yield with the same footprint.
I really want to try that sterilizer. For clones it looks awesome but I read that when in nute solutions it precipitates iron out. Anyone have any experience with uv sterilizers in nute solutions?

 

[hybrid]

shit.........36 pages of reading and all I found was a bunch of shit talking and sad stories of minimal success.

Is it true? Are we all destined to only using rapid rooters?