Firefirejust 1 day,everything has changedhelp..help..
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bobbyboy34
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lol, that is not a sign of overwatering at all, plants that have been overwatered (not over nuted) will look just like hydro plants that go through root zone temperature shock. The leafs will droop like they are sad, like a puppy looks when it peed in the house, with its head down...droopy
that problem you have is a MG def, period. MG def can be caused by too much of other nutes. Best thing to do if you are in soil is flush your soil with water 3 times the amount you have soil.....so if you have your plant in three gallons of soil, use 9 gallons of water to flush. Let your soil dry out for about 3-5 days, depending on how big your plant is will depend of how long it takes to dry out. Then water your plants with nutrient water, i'd start at 1/2 - 3/4 the dosage of whatever week you are on, and always PH your solution after you add nutes to the water, PH to 6.5....thereafter water every 2-4 days
that is not overwatering, trust!
that problem you have is a MG def, period. MG def can be caused by too much of other nutes. Best thing to do if you are in soil is flush your soil with water 3 times the amount you have soil.....so if you have your plant in three gallons of soil, use 9 gallons of water to flush. Let your soil dry out for about 3-5 days, depending on how big your plant is will depend of how long it takes to dry out. Then water your plants with nutrient water, i'd start at 1/2 - 3/4 the dosage of whatever week you are on, and always PH your solution after you add nutes to the water, PH to 6.5....thereafter water every 2-4 days
that is not overwatering, trust!
Tanis83
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fdd it's halarious you can say that with a smile.... I'd be made at myself if I killed my little baby by feeding her too much water.....
mind you I only have 3 small plants *by comparision* and one very small clone.......
if one of them died, I'd cry..... I had 4 and one went male.... it's still sitting here... I can't stand to get rid of him :'( "MY BABIES!!!! NNNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!!!!"
mind you I only have 3 small plants *by comparision* and one very small clone.......
if one of them died, I'd cry..... I had 4 and one went male.... it's still sitting here... I can't stand to get rid of him :'( "MY BABIES!!!! NNNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!!!!"
Tanis83
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this also has to do with the soil... if you have something like a maricle grow with "time release ferts" watering and flushing will only make it worse...... find out what kinda soil you have......
HONGKONG GIRL
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if i use PH5.5 water,and the run out is 6.5.....i think it's more alkali~~
HONGKONG GIRL
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ok..what kind of nutes shall i use??
i need to add more Mg??
bobbyboy34
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im not sure what you have available in your area, but i would suggest CANNA nutes, im also not sure if you are in veg or bloom.
so i need to know:
Veg or Bloom cycle?
What type of medium soil/hydro?
if soil what type of soil? if hydro what type of medium (rockwool, perilite, neoprene)
don't worry about runoff PH unless you aren't sure what PH water you are putting into your plants. If you regularly put in PH 6.5 in soil and flush every month your PH level should be close enough to good
if in hydro, 5.5-6.0......
I say use CANNA nutes because they are great, organic, have a wider PH range (5.2-6.2), and have every nutrient cannabis needs to thrive (unlike Foxfarm)
jsgrwn
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or you could use advanced nutrients, the nutes that are actually made for marijuana growing, tested on marijuana and being sold by a marijuana smoker.
bobbyboy34
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or you could use advanced nutrients, the nutes that are actually made for marijuana growing, tested on marijuana and being sold by a marijuana smoker.
so i've heard, but i think they are chemical nutes.....
at least some of their stuff isi was thinking about using canna just for veg, and AN for bloom...not sure yet
grodrowithme
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Dont use micarle grow
jsgrwn
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you are correct, they are mostly non organic, but they use pharmaceutical grade ingredients, so a little goes a long way.so i've heard, but i think they are chemical nutes.....
i was thinking about using canna just for veg, and AN for bloom...not sure yet
bobbyboy34
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i looked up their new base line bloom formula, im likeing it, i also like the bacteri, fungi, and enzyme products they have...not to mention their phosphorous booster product.....i really want to try this for bloom, but the price of this stuff is crazy, with everything i need it looks like its going to be well over 300 dollars, thats crazy for nutes
HONGKONG GIRL
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I grow in the soil ,and the r almost 2 months old,the gender has shown ,but i still give them 24/0...plan to switch 12/12 this 2 days...is veg or bloom?
i flushed it yesterday...and now i really afraid the deficiency ,cos' it has a sign of cal/mg deficiency...and there has no any nutes in soil~~~
my grow info：
pot size：1/2 gallon
soil：potting soil 50%、perlite 20%、vermiculite 20%、nutes 10%(it's 2-0.5-0.5 and organic,a little like pro-mix)
when i was young,my father always grew rose or some plant,but how come he didnt has so many and complicate problems like me??i dont think he would care about anything,no matter the PH or PPM.....
his roses should die...~~just wondering
jsgrwn
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okay, here is the deal. not all of their products are necessary. many are to prevent and protect from disease. but you can get by with the minimum with great results. i have used their products for over 5 years now, just check some of my threads to see pics. carbo load is a load of BS, also bud blood is not necessary, it helps but not needed. scorpion and phiranah are to protect from disease (not usually needed), use the cal mag. also, the sensi A and B have all the micros you should need. voodoo juice is the priciest thing to get, this shit rocks and is necessary for a above average harvest. sensizym is cheap and works well, also get bloom booster (cheaper that colossal bud blast but works the same), big bud is also great and helps keep the node spacing close together. so...all that you should need is, sensigrow a and b, sensibloom a and b, sensizym, bloom booster, big bud and if you have the money voodoo juice. ther you go, under 150.
zalsrevenge
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wow, that is some impressive burning. Salt should only be used if you are SURE that is the problem. U should have seen if other things were going wrong, like maybe if you were overwatering?
bobbyboy34
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I grow in the soil ,and the r almost 2 months old,the gender has shown ,but i still give them 24/0...plan to switch 12/12 this 2 days...is veg or bloom?
i flushed it yesterday...and now i really afraid the deficiency ,cos' it has a sign of cal/mg deficiency...and there has no any nutes in soil~~~
my grow info：
pot size：1/2 gallon
soil：potting soil 50%、perlite 20%、vermiculite 20%、nutes 10%(it's 2-0.5-0.5 and organic,a little like pro-mix)
when i was young,my father always grew rose or some plant,but how come he didnt has so many and complicate problems like me??i dont think he would care about anything,no matter the PH or PPM.....
wow, well baby girl there is your first and foremost appearant problem, your pot size is waaaaaay too small, especially for two months still in veg (if you are on 24/0 or 18/6 you are in veg) before you go into bloom to need to transplant those girls into 3 gallon pots, i would recommend 5 gallon buckets. Then let the plant get used to that for a couple weeks, use some Thrive Alive or Super Thrive to help the shock the plant will go through from transplanting.
I would recommend getting FOXFARM Ocean Forest, mix that with perlite and make sure you cover the bottom of your pot with hydroton(thats what i do) you can even mix a little hydroton into the soil.
Don't worry about bloom right now, you need to make sure your plants roots can grow more to support the massive uptake of nutes during bloom
The reason you are having DEF is because your plant is root bound and its not getting enough nutes because its not getting watered with nutes enough. and even if you were watering it with nutes enough the amount of times you'd have to water it in that small of a pot would quickly result in salt buildup.
So heres the plan, if you haven't already, FLUSH, let dry from three days, then transplant with FOXFARM OCEAN FOREST soil, PERLITE or HYDROTON. Immediately after the transplant is done make sure you use Thrive alive or Super Thrive with only a few drops in your water and some Cal/Mag, use this ONCE after you have finished the transplant and then the next morning Do a foliar feed with only cal/mag (if you can with cal/mag, read the bottle). Then let your plant repair and get used to its new conditions for 5 days. Thereafter water with regular non-nuted or very very mildly nuted water for two-three weeks, then flush again, then start bloom by watering with blooms nutes and a 12/12 light cycle