What's the biggest mistake Bush made?

medicineman

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Med man is easily the best debater I have encountered so far..... :roll: :lol:



out. :blsmoke:
Well thanks Jax, you and I both know debating you is a lost cause. Your mind is as solid as a rock and about as insightful. I might as well be talking to Dick Cheney, the master of criminal deceit. I do appreciate the compliment, even though I realize it was scurrilous.
 

GrowRebel

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Bush cannot be held responsible for 9-11...to do so is totally unrealistic. However, he alone is responsible for the scattered, misguided, deceitful, and constitutionally inappropriate response to 9-11 that has become the hallmark of his presidency. The irony is that in his farewell address tonight he will laud praise upon himself for preventing additional attacks. This is true but he did so at the expense of the constitutionally guaranteed rights of every citizen of the USA, not to mention the manner in which he soiled our standing in the global community. Despite having prevented further attacks, it clear he lacks true leadership ability, which, incidentaly, is an indispensible characteristic for a president.
Sure the illegitimate bush can be held accountable for 911 ... not totally ... I don't think he had a hand in the planning ... that was the illegitimate cheney ... and the members of PNAC ... but he knew about it ... that's for sure ... and it's easy to prevent further attacks when they cause the first one ... just to keep folks like you in line when they commit war crimes ... and it worked with a lot of people ... thankfully not all ... but a lot ... :-|
 

WaterfarmNinja

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Do you know what Saddam was doing to his own people? Wouldnt you want that stopped?
To me the problem is we got involved in something that is BIBLICAL .They have been killing eachother for no real reason since the beginning of recorded history. Its part of their culture. Its like the couple you may have seen that, He beats on her, but when someone tries to help her she hits them in the back of the head for hitting her man.
The story goes, God sent his only son to save those people. They ALL killed him. Not just the Jews the Romans also. For trying to bring "democracy", or his idea of it, to those people. What made George Bush, or any of us Americans, think WE could change them when Jesus Christ, the son of GOD couldnt do it?
 

medicineman

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Do you know what Saddam was doing to his own people? Wouldnt you want that stopped?
To me the problem is we got involved in something that is BIBLICAL .They have been killing eachother for no real reason since the beginning of recorded history. Its part of their culture. Its like the couple you may have seen that, He beats on her, but when someone tries to help her she hits them in the back of the head for hitting her man.
The story goes, God sent his only son to save those people. They ALL killed him. Not just the Jews the Romans also. For trying to bring "democracy", or his idea of it, to those people. What made George Bush, or any of us Americans, think WE could change them when Jesus Christ, the son of GOD couldnt do it?
So basically you're saying, just get the fuck out. I totally agree, Amen and all that.
 

indianaman

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george bush made all of america look like tools for 8 years. maybe now that we have obama people will stop trying to crash planes in to our buildings and giving us anthrax.
 

indianaman

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i'm saying having a president that was a supposed muslim.... might make the relationship between the U.S and Muslim countries a little better.. and since Muslims attacked America.... maybe shit will get a little better. plus he inhaled.... frequently. lol! fuck yea.
 

Spitzered

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i'm saying having a president that was a supposed muslim.... might make the relationship between the U.S and Muslim countries a little better.. and since Muslims attacked America.... maybe shit will get a little better. plus he inhaled.... frequently. lol! fuck yea.
You do realize of course that 9-11 was in the planning stage before Bush took office.

There is also a little thing like the US Embassies attacked resulting in over 200 dead and over 5000 injured.

http://americanhistory.about.com/library/fastfacts/blffterrorism5.htm

There was also the USS Cole. All this happened when Clinton was President.

As for muslims not attacking muslims, I haven't seen much evidence of that.

And of course Obama inhaled, I don't have a problem with that, but people wll still go to jail for it tho. Nothing is going to change there.

I realize you are being glib, but face the reality.

I hope its not true but odds are we will just be an easier target.
 

mindphuk

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Sure the illegitimate bush can be held accountable for 911 ... not totally ... I don't think he had a hand in the planning ... that was the illegitimate cheney ... and the members of PNAC ... but he knew about it ... that's for sure ... and it's easy to prevent further attacks when they cause the first one ... just to keep folks like you in line when they commit war crimes ... and it worked with a lot of people ... thankfully not all ... but a lot ... :-|
FYI, it is difficult to take anyone seriously when they subscribe to ridiculous conspiracy theories claiming false flag operations. Bolding selected words/terms in every one of your posts does not help your case either, the emphases appear arbitrary and make you look unstable.
 

CrackerJax

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Every time I hear that all of the people need to be involved in govt., I am reminded how dangerous Socialism really is. Reading Growtech's posts reminds me that capitalism keeps the wingnuts down a few pegs from actual power........ whew!

The average IQ is 97.......

ot. :blsmoke:
 

medicineman

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Every time I hear that all of the people need to be involved in govt., I am reminded how dangerous Socialism really is. Reading Growtech's posts reminds me that capitalism keeps the wingnuts down a few pegs from actual power........ whew!

The average IQ is 97.......

ot. :blsmoke:
Arent you almost twice that? That puts you far into insane territory, whooo-Hoooo!
 

ViRedd

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george bush made all of america look like tools for 8 years. maybe now that we have obama people will stop trying to crash planes in to our buildings and giving us anthrax.
:lol: ... That was tongue-in-cheek, right? I mean, so far ... people HAVE stopped trying to crash planes into our buildings, and as far as I know, there hasn't been any Anthrax attacks at all.

Thank you President Bush for hanging tough and not giving a shit about popularity polls. You are a true patriot, sir!

Vi
 

tipsgnob

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Almost 100 years of history has shown that Republicans are not competent and cannot be trusted with the helm of power. In the ’20s, the Republican Herbert Hoover allowed a corrupt stock market to start the process that led to the Great Depression.
He took little action to stop the plunge and the nation suffered as it never has before or since until FDR led the U.S. economy to be the greatest on earth for 60 years.
In the ’60s and ’70s, Richard Nixon used the offices of the government to attack his enemies, he lied about a war, broke laws, and resigned in disgrace before he could be impeached. It took the honor of Jimmy Carter to restore pride and honor to the office of the president.

In the ’80s, Ronald Reagan broke the laws of the nation by trading arms for hostages and using the money to help rebels in South America. Together, with George Bush Sr., they grew the national debt to enormous proportions.

It took Bill Clinton to save the economy and he left the nation with a surplus and a healthy economy. The current administration has damaged the economy and left a mess of our democracy in ways that are too many to mention.

We can only hope Obama can do what all the other Democratic presidents have done, and that is to take the garbage the Republicans have left us and try to save our nation.
 

Anotheroldephart

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Almost 100 years of history has shown that Republicans are not competent and cannot be trusted with the helm of power. In the ’20s, the Republican Herbert Hoover allowed a corrupt stock market to start the process that led to the Great Depression.
He took little action to stop the plunge and the nation suffered as it never has before or since until FDR led the U.S. economy to be the greatest on earth for 60 years.
In the ’60s and ’70s, Richard Nixon used the offices of the government to attack his enemies, he lied about a war, broke laws, and resigned in disgrace before he could be impeached. It took the honor of Jimmy Carter to restore pride and honor to the office of the president.

In the ’80s, Ronald Reagan broke the laws of the nation by trading arms for hostages and using the money to help rebels in South America. Together, with George Bush Sr., they grew the national debt to enormous proportions.

It took Bill Clinton to save the economy and he left the nation with a surplus and a healthy economy. The current administration has damaged the economy and left a mess of our democracy in ways that are too many to mention.

We can only hope Obama can do what all the other Democratic presidents have done, and that is to take the garbage the Republicans have left us and try to save our nation.
There you go again, This country is not a dictatorship..The pres is not in the position to do any of what you claim..The congress and the House also have a say, remember civics class, or gov't class, apparently not.
Clinton gutted the intel services and vetoed the elimination of Bin Laden..for which he DID have the control, so Clinton bears a lot of the resposibilty for (11 He got caught with his pecker out and when asked if he'd had sex with ML he first asked what the definition of "is" is.. then when asked again if he'd had sex with her..attempted to redefine the term "sex". Oh, he TRIED to redefine the Constitution as well, claiming that supposed "assualt weapons:ie civilian versions of mil weapons were more powerful than other rifles of the same caliber..Also intimated that the average citizen is too dumb to handle firearms, and besides, why do civs need guns when LEO does such a wonderful job..
Clinton deregulated the banking industry and forced them to lower their lending standards which has led to the shit storm we find ourselves in. Now Obama has appointed an avowed Socialist to a non conformation post over all things "green" and climatic. Carol B has stated that what is neede is a "world Gov't" where the countries (us) who DO more will give away all that isn't "needed" Now, who is to decide that? Also, she wants to regulate every aspect of manufacturing with an eye to totally eliminate green house gases. While i agree that GHG need to be brought way down, with her idealistic approach the job loss rate will quadruple as companies move to places where there are NO GHG laws.How will that help us.. Oh, by the way, what have the dems done in the last 2 years< When the "promisec" big changes now that they had the majority? Squat is what they've done.

Also, what unilateral powers does the Pres have? Since you "know" that all those rep were to blame, what could any of them done on their own ?

It also took Reagan to get the hostages back from Iran, By your attitude, you'd have left them there right. Carter could have gottenthem back, but he chickened out. None of them would have been taken , if Carter had had the balls to allow the Marine guards to do their jobs and protect US soil. He gave those people away..Reagan got them back..But I suppose to socialist a few lives don't matter.
 
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