MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.
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Masterofgenetics
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Sorry I don't want to over post.. but do you have holes in those buckets? I'm not sure if I see two buckets stacked on top of each other.I was just wondering... Every time I water, if I use a gallon of water, I will get 3/4 of a that gallon that flushes right out.. How do you collect the water?..
If you had holes drilled in the bottom of the buckets. and use coco or grow rocks. And make a simple drip system. By using a gutter that the buckets sit on top of.
Even using a three gallon bucket on top of a 5 gallon bucket
The drip system is so much more forgiving then DWC.. And a lot less hassle.. And less water that = less nutes..
If you had holes drilled in the bottom of the buckets. and use coco or grow rocks. And make a simple drip system. By using a gutter that the buckets sit on top of.
Even using a three gallon bucket on top of a 5 gallon bucket
The drip system is so much more forgiving then DWC.. And a lot less hassle.. And less water that = less nutes..
MrHowardMarks
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No worries, questions are appreciated.
I think you're talking about the bubble buckets... Those are net pot tops made for 5 gallon buckets...
I drilled a hole at the fill line just below the bottom of the net pot lid, this was also the access hole for the air line to the air stones.
I also drilled a 5/8" hole 1/4" from the bottom of the bucket, and used a rubber stopper to plug it, used for a drain... I didn't collect the runoff, just to a floor drain.
If I needed to collect runoff, I'd install fittings to hoses instead of rubber stoppers, and possibly a recycling resevoir to drip...
In the movie Pineapple Express, at the end, the giant fake growroom has a really sweet drip setup... Except the open resevoir is an invitation for massive algae problems...
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In case you were talking about my soil...
For my soil plants;
I do have holes drilled into the bottoms and along the sides... 1/4" holes, about 20 on the bottom, and 5 up along four lines on the sides...
They're just one bucket...
And Nacho, depending on how they react to the nutrient level feed them accordingly.
If they're mature, you can get them up to 800 in veg... And do the bell curve in flower, like
800-900-1000-1100-1000-900-800
I think you're talking about the bubble buckets... Those are net pot tops made for 5 gallon buckets...
I drilled a hole at the fill line just below the bottom of the net pot lid, this was also the access hole for the air line to the air stones.
I also drilled a 5/8" hole 1/4" from the bottom of the bucket, and used a rubber stopper to plug it, used for a drain... I didn't collect the runoff, just to a floor drain.
If I needed to collect runoff, I'd install fittings to hoses instead of rubber stoppers, and possibly a recycling resevoir to drip...
In the movie Pineapple Express, at the end, the giant fake growroom has a really sweet drip setup... Except the open resevoir is an invitation for massive algae problems...
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In case you were talking about my soil...
For my soil plants;
I do have holes drilled into the bottoms and along the sides... 1/4" holes, about 20 on the bottom, and 5 up along four lines on the sides...
They're just one bucket...
And Nacho, depending on how they react to the nutrient level feed them accordingly.
If they're mature, you can get them up to 800 in veg... And do the bell curve in flower, like
800-900-1000-1100-1000-900-800
smokaholic
Active Member
took a while..but i read this whole long ass thread. Interested in the pinching supercropping technique. Honored to be reading a grow journal by someone who has alot of experience.
DR. VonDankenstine
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Have a question for you----You posted that you used VOODOO JUICE---are you using the new and improved formula? And if you are does it smell like dead worms?--We opened a whole batch of the new stuff at the hydro shop and it smelled foul--The old formula smelled semi-clean. Just trying to fig out if: 1. Its just the smell of the new formula 2.Bad batch
thanks...
thanks...
MrHowardMarks
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I haven't used voodoo this round... But as far as bad smells... The guy who runs my hydro shop, and the "questions" guy at Advanced (number on the bottle) say that with organics there is the possibility of some decay and rot... And it's okay.
My shop will still exchange it for one that's not stinky.
Ever smelled Sensizym that's gone sour?
Speaking of which, I stopped by the store yesterday and bought;
4L Sensizym
1L SensiCal Bloom
1L Carboload
Cha Ching
My shop will still exchange it for one that's not stinky.
Ever smelled Sensizym that's gone sour?
Speaking of which, I stopped by the store yesterday and bought;
4L Sensizym
1L SensiCal Bloom
1L Carboload
Cha Ching
MrHowardMarks
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Hahaha, yeah, I wish they were white... But those cost extra...
Reflectivity wise, I wonder if there's any difference between the white and orange, since they're orange, they're reflecting mostly yellow and red and absorbing all the blue... Whereas the white would reflect the full spectrum... So maybe I'm losing a bit of blue? Or maybe I'm reflecting the red/yellow spectrum blooming plants love...?
Confusing, but I doubt there's any differences between the two...
Reflectivity wise, I wonder if there's any difference between the white and orange, since they're orange, they're reflecting mostly yellow and red and absorbing all the blue... Whereas the white would reflect the full spectrum... So maybe I'm losing a bit of blue? Or maybe I'm reflecting the red/yellow spectrum blooming plants love...?
Confusing, but I doubt there's any differences between the two...
DR. VonDankenstine
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I had a bad bottle of BUDBLAST once---Even if you just opened the lid--Your whole room would smell of the most pewtred baby shit/diarrhea/vomit. I lost all sense of smell for three months after that episode.I haven't used voodoo this round... But as far as bad smells... The guy who runs my hydro shop, and the "questions" guy at Advanced (number on the bottle) say that with organics there is the possibility of some decay and rot... And it's okay.
My shop will still exchange it for one that's not stinky.
Ever smelled Sensizym that's gone sour?
Speaking of which, I stopped by the store yesterday and bought;
4L Sensizym
1L SensiCal Bloom
1L Carboload
Cha Ching
MrHowardMarks
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That's odd... The budblast I had reeked of ammonia.
That was probably three years ago, I imagine it's reformulated. On that note, I don't think I could use a foliar spray that smells like, and is possibly consisted of, shit.
I didn't see much if any difference when I used the complete AN foliar spray formula vs without using any foliar feeding.
Personally, after buds start forming, I don't spray anything on them.
I repositioned the fans up to the ceiling since the plants are getting rather large... And I had to raise the lights again, the 9Miles are growing similar to Lemon G, so it's definately going to be a 60+ day strain... But it looks promising for yield and flavor, it's starting to really produce trichromes that have a citrus/afghani scent... It's a bit early to tell exactly, but I think it's gonna be a keeper.
Also, the superskunks might not need more nutes, they are growing great, the slight yellowing might be due to a Calcium deficiency, so I'm supplementing SensiCal for the rest of the bloom.
That was probably three years ago, I imagine it's reformulated. On that note, I don't think I could use a foliar spray that smells like, and is possibly consisted of, shit.
I didn't see much if any difference when I used the complete AN foliar spray formula vs without using any foliar feeding.
Personally, after buds start forming, I don't spray anything on them.
I repositioned the fans up to the ceiling since the plants are getting rather large... And I had to raise the lights again, the 9Miles are growing similar to Lemon G, so it's definately going to be a 60+ day strain... But it looks promising for yield and flavor, it's starting to really produce trichromes that have a citrus/afghani scent... It's a bit early to tell exactly, but I think it's gonna be a keeper.
Also, the superskunks might not need more nutes, they are growing great, the slight yellowing might be due to a Calcium deficiency, so I'm supplementing SensiCal for the rest of the bloom.
Masterofgenetics
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lol.. I know what bubble buckets are with net pots... I have a bunch of them that have retired from the game.. I call them DWC, or hippie buckets.. I had alot of bad run in's with using them. I had alot of heat issues with them, Where I live it gets really hot durning the summer. And I was told by a couple of experts that I needed a water chiller and and I controller res tank and a sub pump..,So I said f*ck it, Thats when I deciced to go to drip, even though I still I hand water 3 times a day..
But I love soil and compost, I've had some of the best tasting and best burning buds from outdoor organic compost.
I am really more of a outdoor grower, Since I work outdoors.. where I live we have a very good, and long growing season we don't get the freeze's until late december. But we have horrible outdoor soil. so every thing has to be grown in barrels or buckets.. When I grow outside I can easily have a plant that is fully mature in a 5 gallon bucket that is 4 to 6 feet tall.. This summer I will be using 55 gallon barrels instead buckets.. when my run is finished. I plan to reveg like T-dub mom is. And throw those revegged plant into 55 gallon barrels . I hope to pull off some brown dirt warrior or fadedtoblack's kinda sh*t
But I love soil and compost, I've had some of the best tasting and best burning buds from outdoor organic compost.
I am really more of a outdoor grower, Since I work outdoors.. where I live we have a very good, and long growing season we don't get the freeze's until late december. But we have horrible outdoor soil. so every thing has to be grown in barrels or buckets.. When I grow outside I can easily have a plant that is fully mature in a 5 gallon bucket that is 4 to 6 feet tall.. This summer I will be using 55 gallon barrels instead buckets.. when my run is finished. I plan to reveg like T-dub mom is. And throw those revegged plant into 55 gallon barrels . I hope to pull off some brown dirt warrior or fadedtoblack's kinda sh*t
Kruzty
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Great porn.What a killer grow room.You guys spend as much on this as i doing boating and fishing 
.Great set-up mr. marks.Clean mean growin machine.
My wife is already mad at you, vv and dirtbag.Ya got me addicted to growin,besides,,, fishin.Now I have to admit. I get a little over board at time.have like 5000+ salmon trollin spoons,like 50 fishin rods hmm,4 boats and now instead of makeing new lures i'm building grow rooms and rewireing the f'ing basement
.Oh ya started a monster .This be some fun shit and will smell way better than fishin.Wife wont think i been dally'in a 5 dollar whore from the smell of my fishing bids,she'll think I got hooked up with a skunk,Hmm now wait a minute,skunk,sheep,montana,smell,hmmm.
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.Great set-up mr. marks.Clean mean growin machine.My wife is already mad at you, vv and dirtbag.Ya got me addicted to growin,besides,,, fishin.Now I have to admit. I get a little over board at time.have like 5000+ salmon trollin spoons,like 50 fishin rods hmm,4 boats and now instead of makeing new lures i'm building grow rooms and rewireing the f'ing basement
.Oh ya started a monster .This be some fun shit and will smell way better than fishin.Wife wont think i been dally'in a 5 dollar whore from the smell of my fishing bids,she'll think I got hooked up with a skunk,Hmm now wait a minute,skunk,sheep,montana,smell,hmmm..Masterofgenetics
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f*cking greatness........
Great porn.What a killer grow room.You guys spend as much on this as i doing boating and fishing
My wife is already mad at you, vv and dirtbag.Ya got me addicted to growin,besides,,, fishin.Now I have to admit. I get a little over board at time.have like 5000+ salmon trollin spoons,like 50 fishin rods hmm,4 boats and now instead of makeing new lures i'm building grow rooms and rewireing the f'ing basement
MrHowardMarks
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Happy to share and recruit another grower into the alliance. 
Master-
Yeah, outdoor growing is sooooo much easier... I can't wait to move out to the middle of nowhere. My first couple grows were outdoors, I was growing 15-20 foot trees in a season...
My sister and brother-in-law live on a mountainside in Vermont, there isn't any soil where they are, just a thin layer of topsoil on stone... They have to grow in bins.
Luckily for them my brother does landscaping work, and has access to 100 gallon tubs... They are about the same heigt as a 55 gallon drum, a little shorter, and a lot wider.
If you can dig into the ground where you are (no stone) it'd be much easier to dig out holes and put in your soil mix... That's what I always did... Dig like 4 feet down, and refill with the good stuff.
Along the outdoor conversation...
A good easy way to water outdoor plants is to take an innertube for a tractor tire, and make it into a bladder that you can fill with water and put around the base of the plant. Put a bunch of little holes in the innertube that will let the water out slowly and soak into the ground.
They sell them for like 20 bucks each, an innertube is only 4 bucks, and it's a lot bigger than the ones you can buy.
Master-
Yeah, outdoor growing is sooooo much easier... I can't wait to move out to the middle of nowhere. My first couple grows were outdoors, I was growing 15-20 foot trees in a season...
My sister and brother-in-law live on a mountainside in Vermont, there isn't any soil where they are, just a thin layer of topsoil on stone... They have to grow in bins.
Luckily for them my brother does landscaping work, and has access to 100 gallon tubs... They are about the same heigt as a 55 gallon drum, a little shorter, and a lot wider.
If you can dig into the ground where you are (no stone) it'd be much easier to dig out holes and put in your soil mix... That's what I always did... Dig like 4 feet down, and refill with the good stuff.
Along the outdoor conversation...
A good easy way to water outdoor plants is to take an innertube for a tractor tire, and make it into a bladder that you can fill with water and put around the base of the plant. Put a bunch of little holes in the innertube that will let the water out slowly and soak into the ground.
They sell them for like 20 bucks each, an innertube is only 4 bucks, and it's a lot bigger than the ones you can buy.
twistedentities
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most ppl bury the tube also...you fill it first then the rain water keeps them filled hopefully...i do this with buried buckets around my outdoor plants...bury the bucket and put a screeen on the top and fill them up...as the ground dries it absorbes the water quicker...as long as your not in a drought it works gr8 for grows you dont wanna leave a trail too...
MrHowardMarks
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Yeah, you cut a hole to fill it...
You can also bury trashcans, and attach soaker lines to them, as long as the garbage cans are at a higher elevation, gravity will pull the water into the hose.
It is extra awesome if there is a pond/lake/stream nearby... Then you can get a gas sump pump, and pum the water to your location...
Advanced Nutrients makes a time release fertillizer for outdoor growing, it's 3 parts, spring, summer, fall...
You can also bury trashcans, and attach soaker lines to them, as long as the garbage cans are at a higher elevation, gravity will pull the water into the hose.
It is extra awesome if there is a pond/lake/stream nearby... Then you can get a gas sump pump, and pum the water to your location...
Advanced Nutrients makes a time release fertillizer for outdoor growing, it's 3 parts, spring, summer, fall...
twistedentities
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i definitly agree with outdoor growing and its ease..i grow in an old pigfarm thats been closed for 20 yrs..they bulldozed the topsoil into these giant mounds...it makes the plants grow like they were alive in the jurassic period...some of the largest leaves ive ever seen...i bury the buckets in the mounds half way down slope and they've never let me down...i also do some tree top grows and have similiar setups in the trees...this is my first indoor grow and im amazed at how important so many things are...i use to take all of u indoor guys for granted and always thought u were assholes becuz of the prices u got for your smoke, but really, for the time u put into it, it's cheap...so, i have a new found respect for all of you and look forward to showin off my first indoor harvest soon
MrHowardMarks
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Really? Tree top growing?
I thought extensively on ways it could be done... When I first started growing outside... (All the paranoia) None I came up with were easy to say the least...
It's a lot easier to have a clear head about an indoor garden vs having smelly monsters somewhere outside...
I thought extensively on ways it could be done... When I first started growing outside... (All the paranoia) None I came up with were easy to say the least...
It's a lot easier to have a clear head about an indoor garden vs having smelly monsters somewhere outside...
Masterofgenetics
New Member
yeah I've grown in a tree house, hehe... This is my trick to watering outdoors, A good ol John Deere gator,some 5 gallon buckets and this.....
