MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.

[DR. VonDankenstine]

we always had a little setup near a lake---At harvest time we would toss all the guts and extra fish remains in a hole we dug---We would then fill it with soil and top it off with earthworm castings and bat guano. The following spring we would plant--The only problem we had was finding the spot we dug. We hauled a lot of lake water but they liked it. I wouldn't mind trying a few again---maybe this spring.

 

[twistedentities]

Really? Tree top growing?

I thought extensively on ways it could be done... When I first started growing outside... (All the paranoia) None I came up with were easy to say the least...

It's a lot easier to have a clear head about an indoor garden vs having smelly monsters somewhere outside...

i'll be sure to mssge u when i strt it this year...now that i found this site ill do a journal for it...dude, u have a blast following it...ive had 40 plants up in the trees...i grow in a lrge white pine forest...but yeah, its not easy...but its worth it if its set up right...dont have to worry about deer or too much about bugs...had birds build nests in them though...lol..

 

[SlikWiLL13]

treetop growing has always intrigued me. i would love to here more about it when you start your thread. ive never done anything outside and have been toying with the idea of doing some autoflowers this season.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Yep, you wouldn't have to worry about late season light obstructions either... That gets a lot of growers in northern areas.

As the sun gets lower on the horizon towards fall, sometimes trees get in the way of the sunlight.

 

[SlikWiLL13]

we get lots of fall rippers too, id like to beat them to the punch. rippers is how my homie got 1 1/2 yrs. they stole more of his pot than they could fit in the car, so they put 30lbs of wet herb on the ROOF OF THE CAR! they got stopped, popped, and talked. i look at rippers the same as snitches...they dont deserve the same air we do.

 

[twistedentities]

the sun issue for where i live is borderline, yeah, tree tops if you can do it right...well, picture this..8 ft and the same size buds top to bottom...the biggest thing to overcome is watering in a dry season....the way i grow, each tree gets two plants with a shared drip system...i use 5 gal buckets that have a fish tank layer of sand in it called argenite or somthing like that..it acts as a filter because the buckets tend to get algaefide...it also helps the ph due to very low ph rain...since u guys have taught me so much about nutes and supercropping, i now can really get wicked on the grows...i actually had a couple peeps walk through a couple of ground plants and they took some buds and left a note saying thanks and put 50 buks in it...lol

 

[SlikWiLL13]

50 bucks huh? maybe there is some hope for the species.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

I showed my first grow to who I thought was a friend... He came back 2 days later and ripped as much as he could carry...

 

[HookedOnChronic]

hurtin, a couple buddies knew about my first grow but they didnt jack it but never again, to much to keep on my mind with someone else knowing where my grow is

 

[twistedentities]

if i remember right there were requests on a report after i used Gravity....i'll never not use it agian...2 days and amazing growth...i only gave it 1/3 of what they recommend...the hairs are twice as fat and the colas are noticably larger! next water im gonna up the dose a little...cant wait to use this stuff outdoors!

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Careful upping the dose, it takes about a week to see signs of over fertilizing...

I've been meaning to try it out, but the hydro shops near me don't carry it... I've heard good and bad things about it. The bad are mostly about what's in it, lots of heavy metals that are absorbed into the plant... Which might be the cause of poor burning, and black solid ash.

I'll be awaiting a report on how it smokes...

 

[Masterofgenetics]

Have you seen those upside down pots that are made for trees? See the only problem with it is that the leaves on the trees block out the light, thus you having small buds..http://www.pandora.com/

i'll be sure to mssge u when i strt it this year...now that i found this site ill do a journal for it...dude, u have a blast following it...ive had 40 plants up in the trees...i grow in a lrge white pine forest...but yeah, its not easy...but its worth it if its set up right...dont have to worry about deer or too much about bugs...had birds build nests in them though...lol..

 

[twistedentities]

Have you seen those upside down pots that are made for trees? See the only problem with it is that the leaves on the trees block out the light, thus you having small buds..http://www.pandora.com/

ive used them b4, i grow in white pines and other pine trees..also, i literally grow the plant in the top...no light restrictions..the white pines are full enough for camo but let plenty of light in...the upside down pots stick out like a sore thumb...i dont recommend them unless u know ppl dont venture where ur growin

 

[SlikWiLL13]

I'll be awaiting a report on how it smokes...

mine smokes just as good as it did before i used gravity. same taste and burn, just bigger and firmer buds.

 

[DR. VonDankenstine]

mine smokes just as good as it did before i used gravity. same taste and burn, just bigger and firmer buds.

Thats funny you posted that----Mine had the same taste and burn--Mine were very-very dense but didn't seem to weight more-weird--Buds smelled and tasty Delicious. The best way for me to describe the buds would be very dense and leathery?.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Leathery huh??

Anyway, before reading the last few posts I went and picked up a bottle of Gravity... I guess I should have no worries then...

On the label it states to go to a website to find out the metal contents of the product... I don't have it in front of me, has anyone gone to the site?

I also picked up a liter of Ona Fresh Linen, and made myself an evaporation bucket out of spare crap I had lying around... I used a 5gal bucket, a 6" net pot bucket lid, with a 6" inline duct fan blowing air into the netpot, and out a series of holes near the water surface...

Works like a charm, the whole basement smells cleaner than before, and the "fresh linen" smells much, much better than the OG ona.

Funny thing, at the store I opened up the tub of ona gel to take a quick whiff, and I got that shit on my nose... I could smell nothing but Ona all fucking night... Dumb stoner move.

Purchases; 8oz Gravity, 1L Ona liquid, 1 Gal GH pH down. Price- 80 bucks.

 

[DR. VonDankenstine]

When the ONA runs out---Get you a bottle of Downy liquid fabric softener with fabrezze. It will run you under 6 dollars and works better than ONA in my personal opinion--One bottle will last you 8 weeks. ONA works great when it is first opened or when you add more fresh ona to it but the smell and control fades in a day or so(you'll see what I mean in a couple days). The Downy never fades and can handle large spaces--The fabreeze in it neutralizes the MJ odors as well. Smells more natural and clean than ona. You will never go back to ONA if you try it...
As far as the gravity dose @ 1ml/gallon for three consecutive watering's-If you feed during those watering's drop your ppms down to 350 and add 1 TBS molasses/ 15 gallons/or 2 Tbs sucanat/15 gallons. With the strains your growing in soil start at the end of week 5. The above dosage will give you great results with zero burn.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Drop ppms to 350???

On the gravity bottle is says to raise your lights, and drop the feeding down by half...

I watered them with Gravity last night... It's week 5.

I did use 1 mL of Gravity per gallon, but I fed at a lowered rate of 750ppm.

In the mix I used...


Per 25 Gal resevoir.[/i][/b]

12 mL Barricade
90 mL Carboload
90 mL Humic, Fulvic
140 mL SensiCal bloom
750 mL Sensizym
90 mL part A+B
460 mL SweetLeaf
100 mL Mother Earth
50 mL Tiger Bloom
300 mL BigBloom
25 drops Superthrive
45 mL HoneyBee ES
25 mL Gravity
50 mL Cha Ching

I know it sounds like a lot of shit... I wanted to add on VooDoo and Scorpion, Pirahna and Tarantula but I figured I'll wait until next round.

This is the first time I've been using the Fox Farm soluables instead of the AN related products, and I must say, I can't see much difference...

 

[DR. VonDankenstine]

Watch very close for burn and be ready to flush if need be. I started using the Gravity a year ago and experienced burn all the way down to 450. I still wanted to get the maximum benefits but without stressing/burning/ or harming the plants. That is were I came up with the: 1ml/gal @ 350 for 3 consecutive watering's. I raise my lights 4" with each dose(retain maximum light penetration without the side-effect of light burn associated with the Gravity)---12" totle raise by end of dosing. The sweet-leaf will take the place of the molasses. I build up my levels of barricade 2 weeks before the first dose. The silicone helps protect the plants cells from the stress caused by the gravity and also against excessive nitrogen assimilation which can cause burn as well. The best time to use scorpion juice is at the begining of week 2 in flowering and only once. Since your at week 5 all your beneficials and fungi's should be well established and with feeding the sweet-leaf you shouldn't have to re-inoculate after week 3 unless you have to spray neem or add H2O2 for some problem. I have had a lot better results with dosing the VOODOO JUICE/PIRHANA/ and TARANCHALA separate on different feeds over the first 2 weeks of flowering than by going with the AN feed charts. I have also bloomed the PIRAHNA AND TARANCHLA with sweet-leaf and organic nute(iguana-bloom----FOX FARM--big-bloom) @ 1gram/gallon of piranha or taranchula. I use an air-stone and bubble the night before a feed. You can do the same for VOODOO JUICE @ 30ml/gal. Sorry for babbling on-and-on. Just want to give you some ideas that have worked well for me with the products you are using.

 

[shefsmoke]

lol mrhowardmarks. just recently caught up on reading your thread. Thats all I have around me is Worms Way its about an hour an a half drive to St Louis for me. cuz where i live there isnt shit around here.