panhead
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Dig this,i was waiting a while before i posted this new info but since you asked here goes.hey panhead, question for ya...I know that water is effective at sterilising male pollen, did you spray your heries when they had male flowers or before? if while, than why the hell wouldnt it sterilise the pollen?
We've covered this earlier in the test but for those late in the thread here's a quick run down on the viability of pollen in a reverse/penetrator treated hermie.
The hermies i had were loaded with pollen sacks,when i say loaded i cant over state the number of sacks that formed,i sprayed those plants on the 1st day of budding as well as day 10 of budding,not one leaf was missed,i drenched the plants & even lifted the leaves & drenched the under sides of every leaf,after they started dropping pollen sacks all over i segregated them in another room before any pollen was released,then it hit me to see if the pollen in ther sacks remained viable,i then put a few true females in the room with them,the females were heavily pollinated.
Ok now for the new info.
I posted that i killed off the plants that were hermie as well as the pollinated females,this wasnt entirely the case,i did get rid of them but i did not kill them,i have a 49 year old brother in law who's a pizza delievery boy & allways mooching weed from my wife,he allways wants to grow as well,he knew i was gonna chop the plants so he asked if he could have them,i explained that any bud would be ultra seedy & not yeild very much,he said 3 joints were better than nothing, we both laughed & i agreed to let him have them after calling him a bum.
Even though he's a dick i figured i'd try & help decrease the seeds so he'd get more smoke so i drenched both the pollinated females & the hermies,4 plants total,i used a little over half a quart of full strength mixture,i sent him home with 2 pollinated females & the 2 hermies along with a 400 watt hps i had laying around & a few other goodies like a timer & some nutes.
A few days later he calls me & asks what i think is a stupid question,he wants to know if he can take a pair of tweezers & pluck seeds off before they are engulfed within new bud growth,ive never plucked seeds off a plant while it was alive so i decide maybe his question isnt that stupid,i figure i'd take 2 more females in heavy bud with me & drop them off to see if the pollen was still viable after 2 treatments before the pollen sacks dispersed any pollen & once after they were releasing pollen heavily,
I get there & put the plants in his lil room,now were sitting there like silly idiots plucking seeds with tweezers,they popped out easy as hell with zero damage to the bud, i was suprised as hell at how easy an immature seed comes right out.
A few days later he called me up crying about the new females i brought him starting to develop seeds,that strain is allways full of massive amounts of swollen calyx's durring heavy bud so i think he's confusing swollen calyx's with seed development & go over to take a look,sure enough the 2 new females were developing seeds on every last bud,before those last 2 plants finish they will be seeded very heavily.
So ive figured out that no matter how many times you spray the plants or when you spray them the pollen contained within an intact pollen sack that has not ruptured & released its pollen content leaves that pollen in a viable state,pollen potency is not effected or diminished in any way.
The only thing i can see the reverse being effective for at this point is to knock down pollen that has been released allready,pretty shitty considering a very light mixture of dish soap & water sprayed will do the exact same thing & dont cost $50.
On a non reverse/penetrator note the seed plucking turned out to be a kick ass idea he had,where we plucked the seeds new bud growth has taken place,the buds look a little goofy from the amount of seeds we plucked but i can see where they are filling back in,this may end up being usefull if somebody has some seeds in their buds & dont want the seeds to effect resale value.
Ive still got 1 full jug of reverse & less than 1/4 jug of penetrator that i can use on any late blooming hermies,or try on another seed grow,other than the unexplained female to male ratio i had when starting from seed im calling bullshit on reverse/penetrator working to control/kill hermies under the conditions i tested the products under,as well as using the products as a pollen knock down to treat unruptured pollen sacks & kill the pollen before its released.