hermie seed =/= hermie plant...

Antman

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but if it suffered some sort of stress, such as a light leak, coudlnt it produce seeds? I only say this becuase I didnt have a male around in the first grow and i got a Hermie plant from what I assumed was light leakage...
Yes bro, no doubt about it. Other than breeders that induce hermies with chemicals to make "Feminized" seeds, fucked up light cycles are the main cause of plants that go hermie. I've read it here on RIU where ppl mess the light cycles up on purpose to get a hermie.
 

BCtrippin

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What's up BC? You seem like a pretty knowledgable fellow, but you're way off on this one bro. I've had hermies on SEVERAL occasions, and there were NO two alike as far as how many flowers they had. To say that all hermies do the same thing is rediculous. I had one that was five weeks into flower before it went hermie. Big fat ass buds and lookin' sweet. That plant was covered in white flowers by the time it gone done hermin' the fuck out. I didn't have to look under any buds to see flowers, that bitch went all out producing them.


Nonsense. Other females that went hermie on me had hardly had any seed in them. I didn't even realize they had hermied until I harvested and manicured them, and then found the opened up flowers buried and the seeds. So for you to say that there's no way that can happen, you're just flat out wrong. It does happen, and it's happened to me. I'll tell ya something else too. I have always grown in the same 8' X 10' room, and I NEVER cleaned the room after those hermie plants, and I've had dozens of females after the fact that were killer sensi bud. No seeds. I've never had a female plant get pollenated by left over pollen from a previous grow. I AM NOT saying that it can't or doesn't happen, but to say that that's what happened to this guy is simply your opinion. Seeds from a hermie plant that pollenated itself will now be Genetically hermie, NOT hermie due to stress or other outside influences, and MAYBE that's why there are less seeds in those. The plant's NOT stressed the fuck out, saying "Oh shit, I gotta hurry up and reproduce before I die", and just peacefully becoming what it has always been from the start, a hermie. The plants that are stressed into hermie seem to be the ones that really go crazy.:peace:
Where did I say they all act the same?

If you let your hermie keep growing WTF did you expect to happen? Of course its gonna pop more hermie flowers.

If anything you are trying to say all hermies act like the ones you had...:roll:

There is no way you had hermie plants with only 1-2 seeds in a bud. No way in hell. I can guarantee that hermie bud you grew had plenty of seeds in it.


Yes leftover pollen is my opinion, and I think anyone who knows what they are talking about will agree. If he had hermies in his second grow he would have found hermie flowers, And there would have been a lot more seeds. He said he only found 1-2 random seeds per bud in the second grow. Theres no way there was any hermie flowers in that grow or there would have been a LOT more seeds.


I cant even understand the last half of your post....

You say Im wrong and thats nonsense? It doesnt seem like you have any idea what your talking about, your just comparing everything to personal experiences where you grew hermies. And like you said no two are alike...

If the plants you grew from the hermie seeds ended up being more females with seeds, they were hermies too. If they were all female and there were NO males to pollenate them, and they pollenated themselves again, then they had to have gone hermie as well. Which to me, is a pretty good indication that what has been documented is true, most seeds from a hermie will produce hermie plants.
Im sorry, but this is wrong. Just because there was a couple seeds in the second grow does NOT mean the second grow was hermie plants. There could be leftover pollen on tools, in fans, on clothing, on the walls, anywhere, and it can get stirred up and pollinate a few flowers creating only a few seeds.

And plants that pollinate themselves dont produce majority hermie seeds, they produce majority female seeds. Its the same concept as using Bananas to self polinate a plant to produce female seeds. The ratio is around 50% female, 25% hermie, 25% sterile.



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Antman

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Some of your statements are so contradictory it's amazing, and I'm the one who doesn't know what they're talking about? Wow. Here's two for ya.
First you said that:"sometimes hermies from light leaks will look totally female, but under the buds they will grow like 1 or 2 little tiny male flowers". Then you said this:"If you let your hermie keep growing WTF did you expect to happen? Of course its gonna pop more hermie flowers."
OK, so will it continue to grow more flowers, or will it only grow 1 or 2 tiny male flowers?:confused:
Definitely sounds like you know WTF you're talkin' about dude.:roll: There are more, just don't feel like doin' all the copying and pasting.
For you to basically tell me what happened to MY plants, plants that you never saw, and therefore could have NO knowledge of, is so fucking rediculous it's hard to believe that someone could be that pompous.
"There is no way you had hermie plants with only 1-2 seeds in a bud. No way in hell. I can guarantee that hermie bud you grew had plenty of seeds in it."
Let me ask you something, what method do you use to gain this unknowable information? Do you have a crystal ball, or are you just plain ol' psychic.
Get the fuck outta here.:lol: If you're not already employed by the circus, you could definitely find a job there with your special talent.:idea::lol:
"Yes leftover pollen is my opinion, and I think anyone who knows what they are talking about will agree."
This is your opinion for sure, and DEFINITELY NOT a fact.

"I cant even understand the last half of your post....
You say Im wrong and thats nonsense? It doesnt seem like you have any idea what your talking about, your just comparing everything to personal experiences where you grew hermies. And like you said no two are alike..."
And how is it that I don't know what I'm talking about? My statements are based on FACTS and events that happened before my own eyes, that I witnessed as they occurred. Your statements are clearly based on your opinion. And YES, I did say that no two are alike, that's the point. YOU are the one that said you can guarantee the hermies I had were loaded with seeds, therefore you are insinuating that ALL hermies will be that way.

"And plants that pollinate themselves dont produce majority hermie seeds, they produce majority female seeds. Its the same concept as using Bananas to self polinate a plant to produce female seeds. The ratio is around 50% female, 25% hermie, 25% sterile."

This is something I am not sure about because I've Never taken seeds from my own hermie plant and grown them. But EVERTHING I've ever read about it, on RIU and on the late great "Overgrow" stated the opposite of what you say. Seeds from a hermie that pollenates itself will produce MOSTLY hermie seeds. Once again, this is not me stating a fact, but it is a fact that i have read it several times. I'm about done now, but before i go I wan't to make my own guarantee...
There's NO WAY you can assume a marijuana plant will grow a certain way because a fuckin' banana plant does.:o Maybe you should stick to growin' bananas. LMFAO!!:clap::peace:
 

BCtrippin

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Wow, cant understand half of that again, learn to quote. Dude, if you could post one coherent post maybe I would understand WTF your talking about.

Im not even gonna try to read that gibberish. Please, fix it, or explain what your trying to say clearly.

Obviously you have no idea what male bananas are....they grow on female marijuana plants MORON. Its the same concept as an induced hermie pollinating itself.

Do you have any idea how they make feminized seeds? Do some research, maybe you will learn something.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/4482-those-little-yellow-flowers.html

Clearly you have no idea what your talking about. Or you would know Im not talking about a fucking banana tree....:roll:

Just because you read something several times doesnt make it true. Do some Current research.


Why is it people are so quick to regurgitate the BS they read and assume its fact without doing any research for themselves....


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BCtrippin

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Some of your statements are so contradictory it's amazing, and I'm the one who doesn't know what they're talking about? Wow. Here's two for ya.
First you said that:"sometimes hermies from light leaks will look totally female, but under the buds they will grow like 1 or 2 little tiny male flowers". Then you said this:"If you let your hermie keep growing WTF did you expect to happen? Of course its gonna pop more hermie flowers."
OK, so will it continue to grow more flowers, or will it only grow 1 or 2 tiny male flowers?:confused:

Definitely sounds like you know WTF you're talkin' about dude.:roll: There are more, just don't feel like doin' all the copying and pasting.
For you to basically tell me what happened to MY plants, plants that you never saw, and therefore could have NO knowledge of, is so fucking rediculous it's hard to believe that someone could be that pompous.

"There is no way you had hermie plants with only 1-2 seeds in a bud. No way in hell. I can guarantee that hermie bud you grew had plenty of seeds in it."

Let me ask you something, what method do you use to gain this unknowable information? Do you have a crystal ball, or are you just plain ol' psychic.
Get the fuck outta here.:lol: If you're not already employed by the circus, you could definitely find a job there with your special talent.:idea::lol:
Clearly your confusing genetic hermies with induced hermies....Theres a big difference between a female plant that was forced to hermie and a plant that is genetically a hermie.

Those 1-2 flowers that pop under FEMALE plants would be induced hermies. The retarded plant you grew that popped hermies all over the place was a genetic hermie.

Am I physic? No not at all, Im just not an idiot. Your honestly gonna try and tell me you grew a hermie plant, with hermie flowers that popped and ONLY had 1-2 seeds per bud? That would be fucking Amazing, Some sort of record!! I would love to hear your techniques for keeping pollen from spreading. This could change the face of growing, Imagine, no more pulling males and hermies because you know how to keep your pollen from getting to surrounding plants....:roll:



So back to the OP. He said in his first grow he had a LOT of seeds. In his second grow he had barely any at all, Like only 1-2 per bud.

Now your gonna tell me he has hermies in his second grow, and its not from leftover pollen? So if the second grow was hermies where was all the hermie flowers and seeds? I dont know why I have to explain this to you, its a pretty damn simple concept.


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Antman

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Can you understand this, you douchebag? Go fuck yourself. :lol: If I'm a moron, you are certainly the king of us all. I don't usually revert to calling ppl names, but when in Rome. If you can't read and understand what I wrote, and quoted you as saying, you're a bigger fucking idiot than first suspected.:dunce: Just another prime example of the clueless assholes on these forums that think because they have a high post count they know something. I know what male bananas are jack-off, just a bit of sarcasm, which I guess you're too simple to pick up on. No more time to waste on your dumb ass so I'm done. I'm sure you have better things to do too, like handle some male bananas. ROFLMAO! What a clown.:!:
 

BCtrippin

Well-Known Member
Can you understand this, you douchebag? Go fuck yourself. :lol: If I'm a moron, you are certainly the king of us all. I don't usually revert to calling ppl names, but when in Rome. If you can't read and understand what I wrote, and quoted you as saying, you're a bigger fucking idiot than first suspected.:dunce: Just another prime example of the clueless assholes on these forums that think because they have a high post count they know something. I know what male bananas are jack-off, just a bit of sarcasm, which I guess you're too simple to pick up on. No more time to waste on your dumb ass so I'm done. I'm sure you have better things to do too, like handle some male bananas. ROFLMAO! What a clown.:!:
What are you 12?

My post count has nothing to do with what I know. I actually take the time to research something instead of regurgitating the crap I hear from people like yourself.

So far you have posted no useful info, all you have done so far is say I am wrong with absolutely no evidence to back it up.

What is your theory, and why dont you explain why you think your theory is correct? Or are you just here to argue?

What are your sources for information anyway? Your ass?


This is something I am not sure about because I've Never taken seeds from my own hermie plant and grown them. But EVERTHING I've ever read about it, on RIU and on the late great "Overgrow" stated the opposite of what you say. Seeds from a hermie that pollenates itself will produce MOSTLY hermie seeds. Once again, this is not me stating a fact, but it is a fact that i have read it several times.
So your saying you dont really know but you read it? I dont care how many times you read some BS, it doesnt change the fact that its BS. Why dont you look up how companies make feminized seeds, maybe you will learn something new....

Do you even grow weed? Or do you just hang out in the forums when your stoned and help people by regurgitating crap you heard? Why dont you try researching something for yourself.



Grow up....

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