Iran Update...

[Anotheroldephart]

On the birght side, I'm going to make Myself a good career in the military and eventually make some beautiful babies with My hott Momma! HAHA

Hey WE1, sorry to hear about your bad luck. I'm sure you must know that a military life must be weed free. May be something to consider before you join. If you get caught, you'll get a bad conduct discharge, a stain on your career for life. Use your abundant cranial powers before you jump. Your friend med.

Oh med..how times change!!BITD deploeyments were where we got away from the O's.or at least they loked the other way..Mighty big raccoons in the jungle..

 

[Anotheroldephart]

Hey Med!

Yes I know that the military is weed free. But I wonder how often they do pee tests? HAHA

I'll just have to be more productive rather than stoned. I just started smoking again after 8 years of quitting. I smoked a little in Jr High and then didn't smoke until I grew My super strains about 8 months ago. So I haven't been a stoner for a long time.

Your friend Georgie Porgie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Skm80QA1Bs HAHA

Agian with the video hoowy. I could make a video from clips as well as all those clowns..Hell, if video evidence is so great, then I guess all the sci-fi stuff in the movies is real, and I want my flying , robot controlled , spaceworthy luxurious space run about.. i feel cheated..Oh yeah..AND my Space Coke.. Where are the reputable sources, not the fringe. When say M.I.T. or the Brookings, or a credible source shows up, then that would alter things. You watch those 2 college boys..then ask them just WHY they've made 3 editions..Because their so called facts were prove to be bull shit. Half the arguments are so patently false, because..you can't fight physics...period..you can't fight metallurgy...period..you can't fight chemistry..period..Well, ther goes over half you "facts" In the day and age that The oklahoms bomber is caught as quickly as he was, what chance that an operation the size this would have taken been kept secret? None..zip..nada. As to the assertion that WT 7 was "set up for destruction" It's obvious that neither you or any other CT fanatics have a clue as to the in depth prep a controlled demolition requires. But i don't want to bring real, hard, factual evidence into and spoil your fun.
I think you'd make a good District Attorney..able to take any conversation and turn it into an admission of guilt. Unless you were born in the last 8 years, then you'd know that it was your boy Clinton who dropped the ball and caused all this shit, that GW has had to clean up. And before you say diddly about us not needing to fight Al Queda over there, you've OBVIOUSLY never been in a fire fight where the other guy was trying to whack your ass. Better fight then there, than here..although there are those of us who can and will deal with that should it happen. As fir getting personal bitch..your head is hollow with the wind whistling through the empty void.

Thanks Spitzered. I'll have to look into that. But like Med said, I'm going to "use My cranial powers before I jump".

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Anotheroldphart, the proof is in the pudding. Do some research on the subject, watch some videos. Check out My signature and watch all the videos until you get to the end of the thread. That should paint a more transparent picture in your head. Or maybe it would just further convolute things for you? HAHA.

Either way, the truth is out there. Its just a matter of how hard you look for it, and are willing to accept it. Just use your God given discernment.
Not your god not ever too violent

 

[CrackerJax]

Indoctrinating the young is easy. So easily led.......

This is why the great despotic political movements have all FIRST concentrated on the youth.

If you charted the global warming scheme, the youth would envelop the majority of the pie.

It's not difficult to fool kids still wet behind the ears. Ask Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol POt, Obama (oops).


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[northendgrower]

I hope they do develop nuclear wepons and destroy Isreal and the US!!

 

[CrackerJax]

I hope they do develop nuclear wepons and destroy Isreal and the US!!

Your wish has a better than 50% chance of happening.... it'll be a hoot right?

Of course the economic engine will be turned off and billions will starve in the coming years, but hey, so what. It'll be a HOOT!!!

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[Jointsmith]

Your wish has a better than 50% chance of happening.... it'll be a hoot right?

Of course the economic engine will be turned off and billions will starve in the coming years, but hey, so what. It'll be a HOOT!!!

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Oh yes, because we'll all starve with no money to eat.

Maybe YOU'D starve CrackerJax, you sound like someone no-one would want to share with.

The rest of us would just work together and get on with the business of survival.

 

[CrackerJax]

Oh yes, because we'll all starve with no money to eat.

Maybe YOU'D starve CrackerJax, you sound like someone no-one would want to share with.

The rest of us would just work together and get on with the business of survival.

I'm sorry for interpreting the fact that we literally feed the world as "people would starve if we shut down".... how silly of me.


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[Jointsmith]

I'm sorry for interpreting the fact that we literally feed the world as "people would starve if we shut down".... how silly of me.


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Well for starters I'm pretty sure that isn't true and that your country Imports a lot more than you Export, but furthermore, there are Millions of people ALREADY starving in the world because of economic exploitation by First world countries, Primarily the USA.

I think the world could live without MacDonalds, KFC and CocaCola somehow.

 

[CrackerJax]

You need to read up a bit on American agriculture pal.... no one and I do mean NO ONE gives more food away to other nations than the US. No one.....

We are the breadbasket to the world. Unless of course we decide to use corn as fuel lawdy...who's idiotic idea was that? Ooops Al Gore to the rescue...

Would you care for me to bury you in Ag statistics... I can if you wish....

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[Jointsmith]

How about instead of statistics you support your statements with a link, let us assess your sources.

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

Well for starters I'm pretty sure that isn't true and that your country Imports a lot more than you Export, but furthermore, there are Millions of people ALREADY starving in the world because of economic exploitation by First world countries, Primarily the USA.

I think the world could live without MacDonalds, KFC and CocaCola somehow.

Jointsmith you're exposing your extremist ideals. The question isn't whether or not the world could live with out McDonalds, KFC, and CocaCola, the answer is of course we could, there's Wendy's, Arby's, PizzaHut, Domino's, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper/7 Up, Inc. (formerly owned by Cadbury Schweppes, Plc.), Jones Soda, Taco Bell, White Castle, Steak n Shake, and so on and so forth.

The question is, would the world want to bother with the extra effort of surviving with out fastfood restaurants (which provide a service (cooking the food so you don't have to)) and with out soft drinks (which taste a lot better than water, and aren't any more harmful).

I don't want to have to cook my food if I'm in a rush, it's time inefficient. Hell, in general its time inefficient for me to cook my food. I have better things to do with my time than slave over a stove.

Why do you think salaries at fastfood restaurants suck, because the jobs require a bare minimal of thought, and no skills that aren't readily learned via training (on the fly.)

As far as your anti-corporate, actually technically it should probably be, anti-Fortune 500, views I can only laugh at your idiocy.

There is nothing different between a McDonalds, and a local mom & pop diner, except for the number of locations. There is nothing to stop a properly planned operation from expanding. There's plenty of restaurant chains that compete successfully with fast food that started with a single restaurant.

Walmart could easily have been named anything else. What distinguished it, was the fact that it was able to establish a niche for itself (low prices) and capitalize on that, because it realized that its niche would be a major niche.

The idea that the world would be a better place with out corporations, with out fastfood, with out soft drinks, is an idiotic lie. The reason why corporations exist, is because they represent the economies of scale. There is no way to easily grow, ship, and distribute enough food with out corporations.

Though you might think that government can do it, but any one with any real experience in the world would recognize that government is inefficient and incapable of doing anything effectively, quickly, or with out studying the damn thing to death.

Tack onto the inefficiencies caused by non-profits and you have the explanations on why there is still starvation going on in the third world. The United States sends billions in aid over seas, and the vast majority of that money gets pocketed as it gets transferred from one person to another, or from one group to another.

More efficient would be for a corporation (which is making money from other operations) to make that donation, and if you have been paying attention to the real (instead of living in your idiotic fantasy land) you would notice that corporations do just that (well, except for the fact they typically establish inefficient NPOs to do it for them.)

Thus, the profitable corporations donate billions to Non-Profits. With out corporations non-profits would cease to exist. It is a lot easier for a corporation that profits from its employees by a few cents every hour, and has hundreds of thousands of employees, to donate than it is for those employees to donate.

The biggest problem in the world is not corporations, the biggest problem is inefficient government hell bent on attempting to protect us from ourselves, and instead enslaving us, and holding us down from realizing our true potential, because of the high rate of taxation that it has put in place.

 

[CrackerJax]

here's a link for you which is strictly data... (my preferred sources). Go ahead and play with it, plug in any country you wish... then plug in the U.S. be amazed and humbled all at the same time.

No sir, we can do without you.... not the other way around. Be grateful we look kindly upon you. Or perhaps you prefer to look east for comfort?

http://www.fao.org/es/ess/top/topproduction.html?lang=en&country=231&year=2005 it only went as far as 2005 but you get the idea...eh? (maybe)

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[medicineman]

here's a link for you which is strictly data... (my preferred sources). Go ahead and play with it, plug in any country you wish... then plug in the U.S. be amazed and humbled all at the same time.

No sir, we can do without you.... not the other way around. Be grateful we look kindly upon you. Or perhaps you prefer to look east for comfort?

http://www.fao.org/es/ess/top/topproduction.html?lang=en&country=231&year=2005 it only went as far as 2005 but you get the idea...eh? (maybe)

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That was foodstuffs, there are many more resources that we rely on other countries for, like Metals and any of the basic elements, sulpher, aluminum oxide, uranium, Gold, silver etc. Those commodities are much cheaper bought in foriegn countries than mined in the US. Labor intensive and pennies on the dollar. Plus no polution restrictions. The damage done by US corporations accross the globe for greed, is atrocious. Example: The Doe run Co in Peru.
Until 1997 the smelter had been run without any concern for the environment with the result that the hills around the smelter had been reduced to a moonscape by sulphur dioxide from the smelters; the already polluted river had been made even more polluted by untreated process water; the soil in the city and surroundings had become contaminated with lead; the people in the city, especially the young, had dangerous levels of lead in their blood and many had bronchial troubles. In fact it was rated as one of the ten most polluted cities in the world by the Blacksmith Institute, a New York based environmental group".[11].

 

[CrackerJax]

Sorry Med man, but his posts were about food. he doesn't think we feed the world... huh? there isn't a more generous govt. on the planet..... not one.



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[PadawanBater]

Your wish has a better than 50% chance of happening.... it'll be a hoot right?

Of course the economic engine will be turned off and billions will starve in the coming years, but hey, so what. It'll be a HOOT!!!

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Wow CrackerJax, with a quote like that, I'm gonna have to see some sources. 50% huh? That sounds like a number you pulled right out of your ass...

You still havn't responded to me about what Iran would gain from this...

Also, regarding the American corporations being in it completely for themselves and nothing but profits, there are a shit load of them that live by this business plan, if it doesn't make them any money, they won't do it no matter how benificial it'll be for people. We're talking a matter of life or death based on the dollar, and it's sad as fuck that most of them choose money over life. So is everything the American corporations do, such as the things TBT listed, the positive things, worth all the indirect death caused by them being there in the first fucking place... come on people, this one's obvious... Without them there'd be no reason to give miniscule amounts of profit to non profit organizations as they wouldn't be in the position to need it in the first place. I'm only talking about the places where this type of business is a major factor in the way people live, there are other factors involved that keep people at the 3rd world mark, not just American corporations greed, but there's no doubt it's a huge factor in itself.

I do not believe the good things these corporations do outweighs the bad things, not by a long shot. I'm not saying we should get rid of them all and keep everything on a local level, I'm saying when it's a choice between money and life, there shouldn't be people in positions to make the decision to choose money. There shouldn't be incentive for someone to let people die, what kind of fucked up system is that?! It should be the opposite, incentive to keep people alive.

Pharmaceutical companies are a perfect example. When was the last time that industry produced a cure for a major disease? Ever ask yourself why? Doesn't it make sense, from a business perspective, to produce a product that helps with a persons disease, but doesn't cure it? That way, the people buying the product will have to keep buying it, and keep buying it, and keep buying it, just to stay alive, where on the other hand if they produce a cure, the person buys it once, and is cured of the disease forever, they'd make fractions of what they potentially could have if they did it this way... This shit all treads on business ethics, a pretty interesting subject that gives you a little window into how these people think...

Is that logic flawed? If so, explain where I'm wrong.

 

[We Love 1]

Pharmaceutical companies are a perfect example. When was the last time that industry produced a cure for a major disease? Ever ask yourself why? Doesn't it make sense, from a business perspective, to produce a product that helps with a persons disease, but doesn't cure it? That way, the people buying the product will have to keep buying it, and keep buying it, and keep buying it, just to stay alive, where on the other hand if they produce a cure, the person buys it once, and is cured of the disease forever, they'd make fractions of what they potentially could have if they did it this way... This shit all treads on business ethics, a pretty interesting subject that gives you a little window into how these people think...
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Exactly!

A bunch of scumbags running the planet if You ask Me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw

Its sad really. There are so many better ways of doing things, but the bankers/oil men/drug companies are writing the laws.

 

[CrackerJax]

I'm guessing from your posts that you take pharms....

Incentive to keep people alive? funny stuff. Check the world's pop....

You act as if greed springs from business or govt. 100% WRONG!

So what is the cryptic motive that could make iran push the button? You want to know? I mean really know?

Hahah, I'm not going to tell you.... you must be smoking your pharms if you need someone to explain it to you. It's becoming clear why you enjoy spinning, it's the best you can do.

what's their motive


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[PadawanBater]

I'm guessing from your posts that you take pharms....

Incentive to keep people alive? funny stuff. Check the world's pop....

You act as if greed springs from business or govt. 100% WRONG!

So what is the cryptic motive that could make iran push the button? You want to know? I mean really know?

Hahah, I'm not going to tell you.... you must be smoking your pharms if you need someone to explain it to you. It's becoming clear why you enjoy spinning, it's the best you can do.

what's their motive


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Nope, I don't take any medication, fyi... You think I have some personal grudge or agenda against the pharmaceutical companies or what?

Greed does come from business, the kind of greed I'm talking about anyway. Without business, why don't you go ahead and tell me how someone can be greedy in this sense (huge corporations with insane amounts of capital that have the ability to affect millions of people). Companies these days become so big and powerful nothing, litterally nothing can bring them down (as shown with the current economic crisis). They buy up competition before it gets too big to threaten the profits and get bailed out when they monumentally fuck up.

You clearly don't even believe your own misinformation/propaganda/right wing talking points if you can't answer a simple question and instead resort to some immature shit a third grader would pull... "you wanna know, well too bad I'm not going to tell you..." If it's too hard to explain, maybe you should just keep that idiotic shit to yourself from now on...

 

[Jointsmith]

I'm guessing from your posts that you take pharms....

Incentive to keep people alive? funny stuff. Check the world's pop....

You act as if greed springs from business or govt. 100% WRONG!

So what is the cryptic motive that could make iran push the button? You want to know? I mean really know?

Hahah, I'm not going to tell you.... you must be smoking your pharms if you need someone to explain it to you. It's becoming clear why you enjoy spinning, it's the best you can do.

what's their motive


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You dodge questions like your politicians dodge their Taxes.

You have still failed to give your percieved 'Motive' for this Hypothetical attack.

Why do YOU think the world hates America?

I can only think that you must be getting at 'Jealousy' but if this is really what you believe I think you need to really think through how much sense that makes (and how much of an ingnorant bigot you are).

 

[CrackerJax]

So now it's the world? Oh my... I give you a 37 for accuracy.

What is the motivation for Iran....? I.E. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.... Iran seeks control of the middle east and to bring Persian power back from its historical slide against the Arab tribes. It also demands the annihilation of Israel as a matter of "principle" (irony). Striking at the United States with an EMP bomb delivered by an autonomous terrorist cell of which Iran will vehemently deny any connection with, will go a long way to nuetralizing Israel. Once the chick has been separated from Mother hen, the wolves will come out.

This is not cryptic stuff and I am dismayed that you don't already know these things....



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