Baz's 600w HPS Suparoom - AK47 Grow Journal

Baz

Baz

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Ok two definate males have been terminated from the HPS room i think there could be 1 more but not 100% so gonna wait it out a day or so..

And im not 100% on the CFL possible male so i'll destroy it tomorrow if it is

So far its looking like 4 males and 7 females, not bad at all :bigjoint:

Thanks for help
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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Baz said:
They got tiny balls, only been there 2 days, some are that small i can't determin 100% so i don't wanna throw em untill im 100%, i should be ok for another day or so right?
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As long as you visit them daily and do not have a huge jungle that would make it easy for you to miss one, you are fine.

It takes several days after you can ID sex for the pollen sac to fully form and pop open. Where people have problems is obviously from either missing a male altogether, or from staminate growth on a female after pulling males.

You could also move the suspected male to an area of the garden which has less light. This will slow down the development a little but will allow you to not throw out a female on accident, and eliminate the possibility that he will flower out and pop open under good conditions.

Males also need much less light to live and grow. If you move him/her to a shaded spot; he will do fine, she will not like it.

This all depends on how far along the staminate flowers are. If they are already hanging balls...they should already be gone. But if you cant even tell sex for sure yet...don't worry.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 
winkdogg420

winkdogg420

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hey heyduke what is staminate growth?? i clipped a few bananas off before they poped and i still got seeds in some of my nugs??
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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winkdogg420 said:
hey heyduke what is staminate growth?? i clipped a few bananas off before they poped and i still got seeds in some of my nugs??
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The bananas are the stamens as opposed to the pistils of the female plant. I would like to "think" that the pollination occured from one you accidentaly missed in the undergrowth. But of course I could not really know.

On this horrible topic, 2 of my red diesel phenos have pushed out stamens @ 8 weeks flower. I was pulling a few bananas daily trying to get in a flush (only got 2 water only) and they were cut last night at 62 days:wall: They needed about 70.

My very experienced bro thinks it could be from 8 weeks of 24hr veg, or possibly the intensity of the 400w over a 2x3 space with plants 8" from light (air-cooled very well) One girl was tied down lower, and therefore further from the light, has yet to produce any male flowers...though she is a distinct different pheno.

Also when I was pulling the bananas, if you do not get the base and it snaps off a little, some pollen could be released.

The stamen is coming straight out of the calyx with a pair of pistils. Not a separate male flower.

I understand this is somewhat normal as an evolutionary defense mechanism to preserve self, though usually caused by the stress of a poor growing season.

I am obviously screwing something up pretty good. :confused:

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 
winkdogg420

winkdogg420

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THATS WHAT I FIGURED I DID I KNOW I STRESSED THEM A BIT WITH THE ORCHID FOOD AND THE TEMPS VARIED GREATLY UNTILL I GOT THE HEATER ! i dont really mind the seeds im not trying to sell or anything!
 
Baz

Baz

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Ok quick update....

Only 1 plant left in the CFL room, the other was a male :( but the other may be a girl not 100% tho

Two males destroyed last night from the HPS room, and possibly another 2 to cut down, once again not 100% yet but i have 5 definate girls in there doing good, i'll be posting some pics maybe tomorrow
 
clowdy

clowdy

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hey thats always great.sucks to waste time to find males though.
cant wait for the pics :0)
 
Baz

Baz

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Ok here are the pics & update

I have 5 definate girls in the HPS room & 1 more im 80% sure is also a girl, so hopefully 6 girls :blsmoke:

2 males were destroyed and the CFL male and 1 of the HPS males are now in another location being tortured ha ha, im experimenting with them trying to learn how to clone and i have also topped the CFL male, might use them to pollinate 1 of the girls for seeds ect.. also as soon as they are about ready to release there pollen, i have someone else who will water, feeds & raise the light, as im not risking getting pollen on me and pollinating my 7 girls.

Notice the diference between pics 8 & 9 the HPS are about the same size as the CFL'S but alot more bushier & the leaves are alot fatter (hard to see through them to determin sex)

The solo CFL grow is doing good but there is a big diference, not as much growth as the HPS girls, but is a week behind the rest, so may improve as time passes.

Picture order..

First 6 are the HPS 6 girls
Next 3 are the two males (1 HPS & the other the CFL one)
Last 3 are the solo CFL girl

:peace:

Also picture 9 (the HPS male was taken pre feeding and was drooping a bit) & sorry about the picture quality as it would of taken half the day to upload with my good cammera.
 

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Hayduke

Hayduke

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Baz said:
males are now in another location being tortured ha ha, im experimenting with them trying to learn how to clone and i have also topped the CFL male, might use them to pollinate 1 of the girls for seeds ect.. also as soon as they are about ready to release there pollen, i have someone else who will water, feeds & raise the light, as im not risking getting pollen on me and pollinating my 7 girls.
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I tortured my males also, and the experience was helpful (LST, topping, cloning, and breaking branches)

Congrats on your harem!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 
Baz

Baz

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Thanks bud, oh yea i will be hacking chopping bending breaking ect lol for being male ha ha
 
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