Making Tea - is EZ.... & Cheap !

Titan4jah

Titan4jah

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dude where is everyone getting there kelp.........


are you guys useing AN iggys kelp, somethin at walmart, (neptunes harvest), or what. every where i try to get some its sold out..... i make an order and get everything but the kelp with a credit receipt for it... makes me pissed too cuzz they act like they have it.. no out of stock deal er nothing...


ive been adding the neptunes to my teas every other feeding at about half the stated dose, this works out to be about every 9 days. i start feeding the ladys once they hit about a foot depending on strain. one thing im trying is to hold off on the spt until after my first feeding because if i use it to early it really breaks down my soil(expensive Organic potting mix..........still starting my compost..tear..) and if im going by the idea that supplying to much to early will keep my rootball small then this would not be good. ive also seen it burn them when there young, the soil i use alwready has the fungi herd and plenty of nutes for about a month er so of veg. cant wait tell i have to stop buying the stuff... ripoff to the fullest.
 
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StickeeGreens

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what i cant figure out is how often to fertilize? Say a s.o.g with plants 16'' tall in one gallon containers. How often do i fert. wheshould i start to leach? 7 out of 9 weeks? Thanks, StickeeGreens
 
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swishatwista

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I couldnt find any kelp at walmart but ill just pick some up at a shop whenever. But hey ohso, do you use the spt on your waterings or do you mix it in with your teas? I believe you said on the spt thread that you use it with your watering so your soil doesnt have to use it all at once(the feeding/tea) and doesnt have to work all at once. Which makes sense, but that was a good two weeks ago so im not positive. One last thing, iv been using this Heavy Weight stuff, a pure carbhydrate, for my molasses. I was told they were one in the same, and it seems to be effective in feeding my soil, but its used for "adding size and maturity to flowering plants". Its directions say use it on the 3rd, 5th, and 7th week of flowering? I mean i know its a sugar(carb) but i dont want it to be too hot or something so any input would help, thanks
 
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swishatwista

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Also i kind of want to know whats the deal behind this if anybody has any knowledge on it--- I have my veg box in my room and i notice that i get light headed and some what dizzy/thrown off when im in my room. Does anybody know if thats because of the plants or because of the co2(1/2 gallon of sugar, water, yeast mixture) i have in the box. I'm not sure if the small amounts(i hope) of co2 is getting out of the box, out of my closet, and affecting me? or if the plants are givng off some kind of something. If anybody knows anything about this i'd love to hear from you, cause i think i might move my box into another room, thanks
 
dirt clean

dirt clean

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Just read the whole tea thread, nice,

long day. hey just wanna say thanks to ohsogreen for responding all over. I got my super plant tonic, my Bio Bizz OMRI and EK certified grow and bloom, ocean forest and light warrior, my perlite, my dolomite, my hydroguard, my guanos, and some extras.

Ohsogreen did you know that pbp is only organics based? I just found out today on another forum and had to run to the store to buy some OMRI and EK certified ferts. No big deal but I on an organic kick. Besides i got no liver;)

I also plugged spt on another forum all over their organic section which just opened, probably in response to the success of this one.

Hey anybody, i am thinking that spt, liquid karma, and dyna grow are the same thing. Is this true.

I am prob only going to use spt thinking they are and the spt looks organic.

Bio bizz has a root thing to use first week like spt I think.

Bio bizz also has a seafood mix. I mean kelp. It says you can use it for veg alone in fact or you can use half of kelp and half of grow.

Did y'all know bio bizz was founded in amsterdam. Their feed chart specifies 18 hour schedule and a 12 hour schedule, lol.

that advice about using teas one week and nutes the next is what I am basing my grow on. I cant believe the high N and P some guano has. Cant wait.
 
dirt clean

dirt clean

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dirt clean said:
Just read the whole tea thread, nice,

long day. hey just wanna say thanks to ohsogreen for responding all over. I got my super plant tonic, my Bio Bizz OMRI and EK certified grow and bloom, ocean forest and light warrior, my perlite, my dolomite, my hydroguard, my guanos, and some extras.

Ohsogreen did you know that pbp is only organics based? I just found out today on another forum and had to run to the store to buy some OMRI and EK certified ferts. No big deal but I on an organic kick. Besides i got no liver;)

I also plugged spt on another forum all over their organic section which just opened, probably in response to the success of this one.

Hey anybody, i am thinking that spt, liquid karma, and dyna grow are the same thing. Is this true.

I am prob only going to use spt thinking they are and the spt looks organic.

Bio bizz has a root thing to use first week like spt I think.

Bio bizz also has a seafood mix. I mean kelp. It says you can use it for veg alone in fact or you can use half of kelp and half of grow.

Did y'all know bio bizz was founded in amsterdam. Their feed chart specifies 18 hour schedule and a 12 hour schedule, lol.

that advice about using teas one week and nutes the next is what I am basing my grow on. I cant believe the high N and P some guano has. Cant wait.
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sorry to pollute the thread with this dweeb post! lol, I thought it was another thread, I had to many oppped up to keep track of. I love to read this. Prob is apparently it takes me a little while to get it right. Read the next post, got a question.
 
dirt clean

dirt clean

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I bought the Bio Bizz grow and flower. I bought all this assuming I would use this to grow and use teas as a supplement.

Now I see what teas actually are. Fertilizer! I am not a complete idiot, just biased by all the hydro store bull shit I read. So. . .

I got bat guano, worm castings, and soon mollasses.

Can I supplement the Bio-Bizz with teas? Or since I got the Bio Bizz should I just go with that and save money next grow? Maybe I can use the teas one week and the Bio Bizz another? Or is this too hot.

I hope I am not hijacking the thread cuz I love it. I guess it bumps it a little. Lol.

ty for your time. btw light warrior sure has a lot of good crap in it. Just came to my door.
 
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StickeeGreens

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Honestly i think if you make your teas correctly you shouldn't use anything the following week. Water with the tea at your desired strength three times for a week. That is only if you need it three times in your feeding session. Then water for a week, this will allow the nutes you gave to be broken down and absorbed.



Peace,
StickeeGreens
 
dirt clean

dirt clean

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then the next week back to ferts? ty. Once again since I got the Bio Bizz I will attempt to also use teas and ferts. Hoping those numbers will be ok.

After all Diy organics from guano should be less quickly absorbed than pro made Bio Bizz.

I gotta justify all these nutes after purchase now that I have found this thread and bat guano.

I saw on tv today they make paper too from elephant crap, lol. I get along well with the green planet now.;)
 
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StickeeGreens

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pretty much man. unless your using a small pot. through proper planning of transplants and mixing of soil you should only have to use teas for so long. say one gallon containers should need teas almost the entire time. a small s.o.g uses one gallon soil for 4 weeks of veg. then goes to 3 gallons a week or so before flowering with some fresh soil. this should feed four weeks into flowering. then all you need at the beginning is a small top dress of high p bat guano. then week 4 through ? you use teas.


Peace,
StickeeGreens
 
Ohsogreen

Ohsogreen

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dirt clean said:
Ohsogreen did you know that pbp is only organics based? .
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Dirt Clean.... Yes, Bontanicare Pure Blend Pro is not 100 percent organic, in the eyes of the OMRI because they do some light processing.
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Unfortunately, the OMRI people frown on any mixing of components with any chemical (they consider apple cider vinegar - a chemical - because it is processed). Some of their rules are a bit screwy.
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It's one of those cases where all the ingredients are natural - but because they are combined, heated slightly (considered processing) and mixed with some very mild natural acids (apple cider vinegar - which I consider Organic) - they can't get it ORMI listed. Not really fair in my book, but my book doesn't count in this case.
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Since you already have bottled nutes - the Biobiz - I'd use them this grow. They have a shelf life, the guanos really don't.
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If the guanos are kept dry and away from bright light / heat - they will not lose any of their goodness.
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The SPT is a beneficial bacteria & mcyo fungi / trace mineral tonic, different from Liquid Karma and Hydrozyme. Neither of the last two are alive, the contents of the SPT are. Now, don't get me wrong - I'm not knocking them. I like both of them - the LK is a great source of humic acid, the Hydrozyme is a great source of enzymes. They each have their place.
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Since, I use compost teas - I have my source of humic acids. I have a bud that uses the hydrozyme in his hydro setup. I usually trade him a bud or two for a couple of ounces. I haven't had to buy a bottle yet, but if I had too, I would. It's good stuff.
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Since the soil you are using already contains myco fungi, I'd wait until week three of veg growth before using the SPT, to avoid building too large a population of micro-beasties (good bacteria & fungi).
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The SPT will help you maintain your micro-beastie popluation throughout your grow & provide nice predigested trace minerals (highly soluble). Thanks to the worlds smallest farmers - micro-beasties.
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Sounds like you have allot of good stuff - I'm sure your plants are going to like them. Organic Buds are Best.......
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Keep it Real.......Organic.....
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mpala

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ohsogreen thanks for all info and everyone else who contributed to this thread. Im planning my first grow and it a guerilla grow. For soil i want to mix fox farm ocean forest, pertilite and some of the original soil. For teas i was thinking on using what u said manure,worm castings, high n bat guano and molasses for vegging. For flowering worm casting, high p bat guano and molasses. I was also thinkin of tryin out maple syrup since its cheap round here in canada and also making the tea with the water from the water change from my aquarium. The tank is fresh water with huge cichlids that poop alot and theres also lots of plants. I have the air bubble thing for the tea too. Tell me what yall think, any advice would be great.
 
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