Iran Update...

We Love 1

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So how about the UFO/falling space debris that came down from the Texas area? HAHA I was just watching it on the news.

But about Iran, I think they must be good people. Its too bad so many counties have lousy leaders, but so didn't the USA with the Bush admin. Hopefully Obama will do some good.

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PadawanBater

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So how about the UFO/falling space debris that came down from the Texas area? HAHA I was just watching it on the news.

But about Iran, I think they must be good people. Its too bad so many counties have lousy leaders, but so didn't the USA with the Bush admin. Hopefully Obama will do some good.

:D
Obama's just as bad dude, don't hold your breath...

Look at all the people he's appointing in his administration, he cares more about bipartisanship than what's best for America. He also appointed the former president (or vp) of Raytheon as the deputy secretary of defense, HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST problem right there, similar to how Cheney was president (or vp) of Haliburton before he became VP... same exact shit, different name.
 

CrackerJax

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The Iranian people chose their leaders..... now they will have to live with those choices. Bad decisions have bad consequences. Regimes based on hate flame out... Chavez is in the process, Iran will follow. It's just a matter of how many innocent people will have to die before it is over.


out. :blsmoke:
 
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PadawanBater

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The Iranian people chose their leaders..... now they will have to live with those choices. Bad decisions have bad consequences. Regimes based on hate flame out... Chavez is in the process, Iran will follow. It's just a matter of how many innocent people will have to die before it is over.


out. :blsmoke:
I guess that's why Chavez just won 54% of the vote for the opportunity to run for a 3rd term... god damn those people must hate that guy!
 

TheBrutalTruth

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I guess that's why Chavez just won 54% of the vote for the opportunity to run for a 3rd term... god damn those people must hate that guy!
46% Probably do, just like 47% of Americans dislike Obama. Of course 60% Hate Politicians in general, but that's because they're stuck paying for the existence of the other 40% of the population which are bureaucrats and welfare/aid recipients.

But don't let that discourage you from trying to make it look like Chavez won by a Landslide... :roll:
 
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PadawanBater

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46% Probably do, just like 47% of Americans dislike Obama. Of course 60% Hate Politicians in general, but that's because they're stuck paying for the existence of the other 40% of the population which are bureaucrats and welfare/aid recipients.

But don't let that discourage you from trying to make it look like Chavez won by a Landslide... :roll:

47% of Americans? Every Poll I just looked up said 68% approve of him. I don't approve of the shit he's doing at all.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/24/politics/main4751511.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4751511

When did I say 54% was a landslide? Why are you making things up? 54% is not a landslide, it's marginal at best. But it's still a majority. The majority of people in Venezuela who voted approve the Constitutional referendum to allow the guy a third term. Fact.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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47% of Americans? Every Poll I just looked up said 68% approve of him. I don't approve of the shit he's doing at all.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/24/politics/main4751511.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4751511

When did I say 54% was a landslide? Why are you making things up? 54% is not a landslide, it's marginal at best. But it's still a majority. The majority of people in Venezuela who voted approve the Constitutional referendum to allow the guy a third term. Fact.
68% of the people ,or 68% of the people surveyed.

Surely if they asked the entire populace, instead of trying to extrapolate based on a survey (which can be skewed depending on the questions, and their wording), the percentage could have been radically different.

Besides, there's the small issue of the fact that extrapolating any survey results based on the entire population is fraudulent. The only percentage that matters are those that vote.

Not that it matters. Regardless of his populate support Obama is doing the same exact bullshit that Bush did. Expanding the Powers of the Federal Government at the expense of those that are supposed to live under it. Slowly taking our country down the road to a tyrannical socialist state.


Oh, and here's what the American Socialist State will look like.
http://www.kens5.com/latestnews/stories/KENS20090216-CASTLEHILLSEMERGENCYFEE.2281a4f3.html

Because government finds the greediest, laziest, most idiotic assholes out there, and hires them.
 

We Love 1

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I don't approve of the shit he's doing at all.
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I don't approve either. This whole "stimulus" package is a scam!

Why not just provide 2 trillion dollars worth of tax cuts? That would almost instantly (within a year of so anyways) put money into every tax payers pockets.

They are giving billions of dollars to the banks and telling them to lend more money. All thats doing is causing inflaction and putting more people in debt. If the gov't gives 1 trillion to the banks, then the banks are ordered to "lend lend lend" they will be able to put 10 trillion dollars into circulation, hence the inflaction/devalued dollar/monopoly money. So now 10 trillion is lent out and needs to be paid back plus interest, and hence more americans in debt.

The system is going to crash, its becoming monopoly money. Where the banksters win and everyone else loses. They get to make up 9/10s of the money they lend out AND collect interest on the made up money.

For instance, all they need is 1 dollar and they can lend out 10 to the borrower. (Nine dollars is just "made up money") The borrower then has to pay back 10 dollars PLUS interest.

All the money has to get paid back to the banks, plus interest. The Fed prints the money, but it all has to be paid back to them! They lend money, they don't spend. The system is going to crash, its just a matter of time. Its a way to make slaves. You have to work until Your 65, old, disabled and lame.

We need RON PAUL for president to fix things!

~PEACE~

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zaki1990

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So what if they have nuclear weapons? US, India, Russia, Pakistan and many other countries carry nuclear warheads. I doubt that Iran having nuclear capabilities will change anything. Anyways also it is not in their interest to blowup Israel or whoever else, I do not see why they cannot carry them while almost all the other nations have them.
 
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PadawanBater

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68% of the people ,or 68% of the people surveyed.

Surely if they asked the entire populace, instead of trying to extrapolate based on a survey (which can be skewed depending on the questions, and their wording), the percentage could have been radically different.

Besides, there's the small issue of the fact that extrapolating any survey results based on the entire population is fraudulent. The only percentage that matters are those that vote.

Not that it matters. Regardless of his populate support Obama is doing the same exact bullshit that Bush did. Expanding the Powers of the Federal Government at the expense of those that are supposed to live under it. Slowly taking our country down the road to a tyrannical socialist state.


Oh, and here's what the American Socialist State will look like.
http://www.kens5.com/latestnews/stories/KENS20090216-CASTLEHILLSEMERGENCYFEE.2281a4f3.html

Because government finds the greediest, laziest, most idiotic assholes out there, and hires them.
Yeah, that's exactly what I said in my last post "the people who voted", I didn't say every American, sorry if that wasn't clear, I meant every American surveyed.

I wouldn't call it fraudulent, and I wouldn't call it entirely accurate. It should probably be used to give someone a good idea of the general populace's opinion. I'd say his ratings would be somewhere near the 58% - 60% if you surveyed every American.

Absolutely agree, he's digging a huge hole for everyone and I completely disagree with his policy and most of the people he's appointed.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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You guys over the pond probably wont even have heard about this in the news it was given a 2 inch by 4 inch in our newspapers.

"IRAN'S defence minister is expected to use a trip to Moscow to convince Russians to deliver air defence missiles capable of repelling a US or Isreali attack. Mostafa Mohammad Najjar wants the Kremlin to provide Tehran with the s300 mid range system. But Russia said last year it had no intention of selling weapons to 'troubled regions' - although an Iranian MP has claimed that a deal has been agreed. The Missiles can track and fire at aircraft 120km (75 miles) away."

not scaremongering but i think its only a matter of time before both our forces and yours are off to iran to fuck up that lunatic Mahmoud Ahmadinejads plans
 

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CrackerJax

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You guys over the pond probably wont even have heard about this in the news it was given a 2 inch by 4 inch in our newspapers.

"IRAN'S defence minister is expected to use a trip to Moscow to convince Russians to deliver air defence missiles capable of repelling a US or Isreali attack. Mostafa Mohammad Najjar wants the Kremlin to provide Tehran with the s300 mid range system. But Russia said last year it had no intention of selling weapons to 'troubled regions' - although an Iranian MP has claimed that a deal has been agreed. The Missiles can track and fire at aircraft 120km (75 miles) away."

not scaremongering but i think its only a matter of time before both our forces and yours are off to iran to fuck up that lunatic Mahmoud Ahmadinejads plans
Of course the Russians have no problems with helping them enrich uranium which is used for only ONE purpose. They are nice aren't they?
Looks like Iran will have bomb number ONE ready in about three months. This one is not the danger bomb. After all, they will test it and boast a bit. Also, Mahamoud is up for re-election in 5 months and since everything he has touched so far has turned to sh*t, this is his one gem to stay in power. Of course beheadings are at a record rate this year so far in Iran, so he uses more 'conventional" means as well...nice folks eh?

The dangerous bomb, number TWO is scheduled for June or July. This will be the one which is unleashed upon innocents.

out. :blsmoke:
 

Jointsmith

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Of course the Russians have no problems with helping them enrich uranium which is used for only ONE purpose. They are nice aren't they?
Looks like Iran will have bomb number ONE ready in about three months. This one is not the danger bomb. After all, they will test it and boast a bit. Also, Mahamoud is up for re-election in 5 months and since everything he has touched so far has turned to sh*t, this is his one gem to stay in power. Of course beheadings are at a record rate this year so far in Iran, so he uses more 'conventional" means as well...nice folks eh?

The dangerous bomb, number TWO is scheduled for June or July. This will be the one which is unleashed upon innocents.

out. :blsmoke:
lol, ok. we'll just have to wait and see I guess.

It must be horrible having so much fear in your life.
 

We Love 1

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I have said this before but here goes.

The USA funded the Russians to help build nuclear power plants for the Iranians.

Then the USA wants to go to war with the because of this?

The Iranians aren't going to attack anyone, but I bet they would defend theirselves and I don't blame them.

:D
 

CrackerJax

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Well, it depends on your response to fear, and there is plenty to fear from a revolutionary nation state equipped with nukes and a nutjob with his finger on the button. I'd rather know than not know. I'd rather act then, oh let's just wait and see. This is how liberal policy always leads to war. When weakness is sensed, dictators act. Can't we all just get along? :lol: No, we don't, learn from history instead of trying to rewrite it so you can sleep at night with sugarplums in your head. It's a rough and tumble world filled with nations vying for the top spot, ALWAYS. Stepping the US down a notch (happening) doesn't increase the peace...but threatens it.

Yes, much better to put ur head in the sand eh? Just make sure you don't wake up to shariah's law.

out. :blsmoke:
 

CrackerJax

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I have said this before but here goes.

The USA funded the Russians to help build nuclear power plants for the Iranians.

Then the USA wants to go to war with the because of this?

The Iranians aren't going to attack anyone, but I bet they would defend theirselves and I don't blame them.

:D

there is a BIG difference between nuclear power plants and nuclear missiles.... no one is going to war over nuke power plants.... duh.


out. :blsmoke:
 

medicineman

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Of course beheadings are at a record rate this year so far in Iran, so he uses more 'conventional" means as well...nice folks eh?

Uhhhh, Governor Bush put to death more prisoners than has ever been done before or since in his tenure as governor. Nice folk, eh?
 

CrackerJax

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They are not political enemies though are they? Our CRIMINALS are given every opportunity to prove their innocence. Go get arrested in Iran and feel the CHANGE. Get real. It is the states who decides punishment, not the President.... uhhh.


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PadawanBater

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Of course the Russians have no problems with helping them enrich uranium which is used for only ONE purpose. They are nice aren't they?
Looks like Iran will have bomb number ONE ready in about three months. This one is not the danger bomb. After all, they will test it and boast a bit. Also, Mahamoud is up for re-election in 5 months and since everything he has touched so far has turned to sh*t, this is his one gem to stay in power. Of course beheadings are at a record rate this year so far in Iran, so he uses more 'conventional" means as well...nice folks eh?
CrackerJax, how do you go from 'the Russians are helping the Iranians enrich uranium' to 'they'll have bomb number ONE ready in about three months'? Where did you get three months? Why don't you ever cite anything? All this shit is complete speculation on your part, none of it is fact, all you've presented this entire thread is fear, warmongering, hate, an unbelievable amount of arrogance, and an undeserved sense of inflated pride.

The dangerous bomb, number TWO is scheduled for June or July. This will be the one which is unleashed upon innocents.
Again, numbers straight out of your ass. I've seen you bitch and moan about conspiracy theorists on other threads, what the hell do you think you've got going on in your little peabrain with this crazy shit?

Well, it depends on your response to fear, and there is plenty to fear from a revolutionary nation state equipped with nukes and a nutjob with his finger on the button. I'd rather know than not know. I'd rather act then, oh let's just wait and see. This is how liberal policy always leads to war. When weakness is sensed, dictators act. Can't we all just get along? No, we don't, learn from history instead of trying to rewrite it so you can sleep at night with sugarplums in your head. It's a rough and tumble world filled with nations vying for the top spot, ALWAYS. Stepping the US down a notch (happening) doesn't increase the peace...but threatens it.
'A nation equipped with nukes and a nutjob with his finger on the button' <--- that sure as fuck sounds a lot like the US the past 8 years, Bush being a moderate Christian, what the hell would you call someone who believes their imaginary friend directed their administration? Not to mention Pakistan has nukes, yet you never say a word about them or the insane ass dictator they've got... I guess that's just because we're allies huh. Shows your true colors again CJ. "They can be crazy as fuck and kill whoever they want and it's totally cool with us, just so long as they're our allies".

You'd rather act on disinformation, lies and manipulation that you were told by people who will benifit from abusing your retarded ass than actually get the facts from both sides and formulate a plan the correct way. You seem to think that using ANYTHING other than military force to get what we want means "doing nothing", again, you show basic knowlege of diplomacy.

I would rather go to sleep knowing I tried everything but force first than use military action first and feel guilty about the deaths of thousands of innocent people, and the increasing instability in the region which leads to more innocent death.

So your real agenda finally comes out huh? If it's not America at the top oppressing everyone else, someone else will be at the top oppressing us. It doesn't have to be this way CrackerJax, your diluted view of the world and how things work and how you're afraid of anyone with a middle eastern accent is why we're at this point, because most Americans are the same way, scared, sad, and willing to give their government capital to keep the cycle of bullshit running.

They are not political enemies though are they? Our CRIMINALS are given every opportunity to prove their innocence. Go get arrested in Iran and feel the CHANGE. Get real. It is the states who decides punishment, not the President.... uhhh.
OK, so I guess you've never heard of people being exonerated by DNA evidence then... read a newspaper? You don't think there are innocent people in prison?

And uhh...yeah, that was the point of Med's post, I'm sure you havn't forgotten your hero Bush was Gov. of Texas before he was the president, ass, he was responsible for the statistics of his state during his term, exactly as you just agreed...

Now for some real facts for your happy ass, get a load of these, I'll be waiting for the 'ol "deny deny deny" approach with your next post, like always, but shit, maybe one of them will get through your marshmallow head into your peabrain, so let's give it a try anyway...

This information comes from Worldpublicopinion.org (so you can go check it yourself if you don't believe me).

It's a nationwide poll conducted in Iran from October 31st - December 6, 2006, all 30 provinces, 1,000 people

It has a margin of error of (+ -) 3.2% and the interviews were conducted face to face.















(I direct linked them because I knew CJ's lazy ass would never click on each individual link)

What do you have to say for yourself now CJ? :bigjoint:
 
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