Iran Update...

[Don Gin and Ton]

hahahaha "You'd rather act on disinformation, lies and manipulation that you were told by people who will benifit from abusing your retarded ass than actually get the facts from both sides and formulate a plan the correct way"

oh man come on your response was to post the world opinions .org figures. where are the facts man.

opinions are like arseholes everyone's got one.

 

[CrackerJax]

Look at the set up of the questions.... funny stuff.

Okay Neville.... let's shoot for "peace in our time", and see how that goes...... not.

Look, we really don't expect england or the EU to do anything about it. It's sort of your rep by now, inaction, inaction. Let's face it, you don't provide for your own security in Europe, certainly nothing near sufficient. Your economic systems are top heavy and ponderous, I could run over two countries before the EU could fill out the proper paperwork to file a protest. A protest...


EU has already surrendered to Shariah's law....... there is no backbone in Europe. Only bureaucracy.... You're not a country with a govt. You're a govt. with a country. Big difference.

Don't worry, sit back and watch ur arse get protected by us again.

Now it would be REALLY REALLY and I do mean REALLY FUNNY if the Iranians fires one on out to London, since it has been mentioned by Iran before as a center to be destroyed.

Don't worry, I won't laugh out loud.... stiff upper lip and all that, what?


out.

 

[PadawanBater]

Look at the set up of the questions.... funny stuff.

Okay Neville.... let's shoot for "peace in our time", and see how that goes...... not.

Look, we really don't expect england or the EU to do anything about it. It's sort of your rep by now, inaction, inaction. Let's face it, you don't provide for your own security in Europe, certainly nothing near sufficient. Your economic systems are top heavy and ponderous, I could run over two countries before the EU could fill out the proper paperwork to file a protest. A protest...


EU has already surrendered to Shariah's law....... there is no backbone in Europe. Only bureaucracy.... You're not a country with a govt. You're a govt. with a country. Big difference.

Don't worry, sit back and watch ur arse get protected by us again.

Now it would be REALLY REALLY and I do mean REALLY FUNNYif the Iranians fires one on out to London, since it has been mentioned by Iran before as a center to be destroyed.

Don't worry, I won't laugh out loud.... stiff upper lip and all that, what?


out.

Uhh... I'm an American... but don't let that stop you, you're on a roll man!

 

[NewGrowth]

When war becomes accepted as a way of life it is inevitable.

 

[cannibicam]

Since American has won it's independence when has it not been at war? Either with the Spanish or the Indians it stole land from in the midwest to the pacific ocean.
Why do Americans continue to believe their media, the media that is owned by the elites that prophet from war. Iran would be an amazing democratic country along with Iraq right now if it wasn't for CIA intervention in the 50's. Muslims don't hate American's freedoms and way of life. They hate being killed. How many innocent people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq over the last eight years? I don't know the numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the tens of thousands if not more than a hundred thousand. And of those thousands of people that have died how many of their relatives and friends are still alive to day? People who are deeply effected by these wars. Are they expected to sit by and continue to watch their families be destroyed and not do antying about it? They don't hate American freedoms. They hate losing loved ones. The coalition of the willing were lying about WMDs. Those were simple lies. The US invaded Iraq, much like Hitler invaded Poland. They invaded Afghanistan, aswell. There were no suicide bombings inside of Iraq in the history of the country before the illegal invasion. Under Saddam they weren't killing themselves to try and ger rid of Saddam. There were no weapons of mass destruction and that was proven by UN officials before the illegal invasion occured. So when they go there and proved there were no weapons of mass destruction they changed the story to promoting democracy. You don't promote democracy by starving a population with sanctions while the tyrant that is a top the country continues to grow wealthier. If they wanted to promote democracy they would have helped to promote literacy and politically trained the leaders pushing for democracy instead of starving the population so that they could not fight for themselves. If they cared about democracy why didn't the Americans help the Iraqi people during the gulf war to oust Saddam. Democracy comes from the people in the country and is not injected by an outside source. The American government has done more to destroy democracy in the middle east in the last sixty years than any other entity on earth.
Afghanistan had a muslim government before the Taliban took power. Where did the Taliban come from? Who helped them in their creation? The Clinton administration. In Pakistan they are trying to come to a peaceful solution to Muslim extremist violence by allowing them an area to live as they wish with their own Muslim laws. They are doing this with negotiations. What is Washington's view? They should be using force instead of negotiations.
Isreal is threatening to attack Iran. What is Isreal? The 51st state. Who is often the only country to support Isreali actions in the UN? It is the United States. Who vetos any resolution in the UN condeming Isreal. The United States. Why shouldn't Isreal attack Iran? If someone throws a rock in Isreal they are justified in killing at least ten people, nine of them women and children.
Why do Americans allow the Elite of their country to do what ever they want? Why don't more Americans stand up and try to prevent the Elite from doing what every they want to other countries. I don't understand how Americans on rollitup can even defend their governments actions when they could possibly be victims of their government aswell. The war on drugs. America is all about war. This is a country that imprisons hundreds of thousands of none violent people for simple marijuana. There is no such thing as a drug test. There is a marijuana test. Coke and herion don't stay in your body for more than a few days. Ronnie Ray Gun said that marijuana is the most dangerous drug on the earth. WTF??? Do Americans still believe that? If they lie about Marijuana what makes you think they are tellnig the truth about what is happening in the middle east? If you murder someone in the United States and go to jail you could still apply for government funding to go to a post secondary institution. Not if you are convicted of having a roach. Prisons are big business in the united states. States prisons are being closed to make room for private prisons. PRIVATE PRISONS!!! Why is it profitable for people being in jail?
Most American media reporst coming out of Venezuela are that Chavez is a dictator and undemocratic. He was ousted by a coup and the new government was immediately recognized by Washington. Venezuela just had a referandum to amend the constitution. What is undemocratic about a nation voting on amendments to their constitution? Chavez is so evil that a Venezuelan oil company state owned is the only company donating oil to help heat homes in the northeasten United States despite low oil prices. No US company is offering to do so. Everything that is being said about Chavez and his government are lies.
How can you honestly believe a government that says Marijuana is the most dangerous drug on earth? Stop defending your government and try to understand what is really going on. The media and your government are not telling the truth. Don't believe them. Use the internet to find many different sources of information. Accept nothing and question everything. Check out Barry Cooper.

 

[NewGrowth]

Since American has won it's independence when has it not been at war? Either with the spanish or Indians it stole land from the midwest to the pacific ocean.
Why do Americans continue to believe their media, the media that is owned by the elites that prophet from war. Iran would be an amazing democratic country along with Iraq if it wasn't for CIA intervention in the 50's. Muslims don't hate American's freedoms and way of life. They hate being killed. How many innocent people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq over the last eight years? I don't know the numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the tens of thousands if not more than a hundred thousand. The coalition of the willing were lying about WMDs. Those were simple lies. The US invaded Iraq, much like Hitler invaded Poland. They invaded Afghanistan, aswell. There were no suicide bombings in side of Iraq in the history of the country before the illegal invasion. Under Saddam they weren't killing themselves to try and ger rid of Saddam. There were no weapons of mass destruction and that was proven before the illegal invasion occured. So when they go there and proved there were no weapons of mass destruction they changed the story to promoting democracy. You don't promote democracy by starving a population with sanctions while the tyrant that is a top the country continues to grow wealthier. If they wanted to promote democracy they would have help promotoe literacy and politically trained the leaders pushing for democracy instead of starving the population so that they could not fight for their own democracy. If they cared about democracy why didn't the Americans help the Iraqi people during the gulf war to oust Saddam. The American have done more to destroy democracy in the middle east in the last sity years than any other entity on earth.
Afghanistan had a muslim government before the Taliban took power. Where did the Taliban come from? Who helped them in their creation? The Clinton administration. In Pakistan they are trying to come to a peaceful solution to Muslim extremist violence by allowing them an area to live as they wish with their own Muslim laws. They are doing this with negotiations. What is Washington's view? They should be using force instead of negotiations.
Isreal is threatening to attack Iran. What is Isreal? The 51st state. Who is often the only country to support Isreali actions in the UN? It is the United States. Who vetos any resolution in the UN condeming Isreal. The United States. Why shouldn't Isreal attack Iran? If someone throws a rock in Isreal they are justified in killing at least ten people, nine of them women and children.
Why do Americans allow the Elite of their country to do what ever they want? Why don't more Americans stand up and try to prevent the Elite from doing what every they want to other countries. I don't understand how Americans rollitup can even defend their governments actions when they could possibly be victims of their government aswell. The war on drugs. America is all about war. This is a country that imprisons hundreds of thousands of none violent people for simple marijuana. There is no such thing as a drug test. There is a marijuana test. Coke and herion don't stay in your body for more than a few days. Ronnie Ray Gun said that marijuana is the most dangerous drug on the earth. WTF??? Do Americans still believe that? If they lie about Marijuana what makes you think they are tellnig the truth about what is happening in the middle east?
Most American media reporst coming out of Venezuela are that Chavez is a dictator and undemocratic. He was ousted by a coup and the new government was immediately recognized by Washington. Venezuela just had a referandum to amend the constitution. What is undemocratic about a nation voting on amendments to their constitution? Chavez is so evil that a Venezuelan oil company state is the only company donating oil to help heat homes in the northeasten United States despite low oil prices. No US company is offering to do so.
How can you honestly believe a government that says Marijuana is the most dangerous drug on earth?

Well said, the truth of American Foreign policy is not pretty. We are manufacturers of War.

 

[cannibicam]

Well said, the truth of American Foreign policy is not pretty. We are manufacturers of War.

You are not manufacturers of war the elites and the government are. The American people suffer from a horrible reputation that has nothing to do with them and everything to do with the few running the country.
How many millions of people have lost their homes and how many people are losing their jobs and who's getting the money? Banks and Automakers. Does that make sense? Who are the tax payers and you benefits from the taxes?

 

[We Love 1]

How can you honestly believe a government that says Marijuana is the most dangerous drug on earth? Stop defending your government and try to understand what is really going on. The media and your government are not telling the truth. Don't believe them. Use the internet to find many different sources of information. Accept nothing and question everything. .

+REP bro!

Lots of GREAT points! Its good to see more people with their eyes open and spreading the truth.

I agree! Check out this Cannibicam https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/161143-viva-la-revolution.html and feel free to bump it around.

 

[NewGrowth]

You are not manufacturers of war the elites and the government are. The American people suffer from a horrible reputation that has nothing to do with them and everything to do with the few running the country.
How many millions of people have lost their homes and how many people are losing their jobs and who's getting the money? Banks and Automakers. Does that make sense? Who are the tax payers and you benefits from the taxes?

I believe we as a people are responsible not all the blame can be lumped on one party. Our greatest flaw is our unwillingness to change and the newly ignited nationalism that has erupted since 911.

 

[CrackerJax]

Nationalism is a survival technique utilized when attacked. that's never going to change. It's human nature. This is one of the areas which is given short shrift by the left. Everything always looks rosy on paper, but the devil is always in the details. As soon as the paper is utilized by people, ANY people, the corruption begins. If paper could be translated into real life without corruption, I'd gladly become a COMMUNIST!!! It LOOKS terrific!


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[TheBrutalTruth]

Well said, the truth of American Foreign policy is not pretty. We are manufacturers of War.

Isn't that the perfect argument for isolationism?

Let's stop being concerned with the rest of the world so our politicians aren't tempted to go fuck shit up?

I mean, that's all our politicians, actually any politicians, are good at, fucking shit up.

taxes - fucks the economy up
bail outs - fucks the economy up
interventionist policies - fucks up other countries, and the global economy

what else...

inflationary monetary policy - fucks the economy up

failure to refuse to kow tow to the demands of special interest groups - fucks the economy up, fucks our society up

it goes on and on and on and on.

Our government is only good at fucking shit up.

 

[We Love 1]

failure to refuse to kow tow to the demands of special interest groups - fucks the economy up, fucks our society up
.

I was following You until the kow tow part. Whats that?

Thanks in advance

~PEACE~

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

I was following You until the kow tow part. Whats that?

Thanks in advance

~PEACE~

Means they kiss the asses of the special interest groups, or lets them bribe them into acting in ways that the special interest groups want them to. I think I might have added a space, kowtow, as opposed to kow tow.

 

[cannibicam]

Marijuana is the most dangerous drunk on earth is not rosey, it's a lie. Don't believe the government and the media that spreads its lies.

 

[PadawanBater]

Marijuana is the most dangerous drunk on earth is not rosey, it's a lie. Don't believe the government and the media that spreads its lies.

Anyone who says marijuana is the most dangerous drug on the planet at this point shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone, that statement forfeits credibility.

 

[CrackerJax]

I read that and after a couple of more reads, I think he got confused... put down the pipe and step away.


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[cannibicam]

I didn't say it. I was quoting Ronnie Ray Gun. The president of the United States said that it is the most dangerous drug on the face of the planet. Why would you believe what the government says when it lies?
Good spin though.

 

[cannibicam]

Nationalism is a survival technique utilized when attacked. that's never going to change. It's human nature. This is one of the areas which is given short shrift by the left. Everything always looks rosy on paper, but the devil is always in the details. As soon as the paper is utilized by people, ANY people, the corruption begins. If paper could be translated into real life without corruption, I'd gladly become a COMMUNIST!!! It LOOKS terrific!


What is this in reference to? What are you talking about?

 

[CrackerJax]

Post 289.




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[medicineman]

I believe we as a people are responsible not all the blame can be lumped on one party. Our greatest flaw is our unwillingness to change and the newly ignited nationalism that has erupted since 911.

Nationalism may be fine, but to the extreme, (jingoism) is dangerous. It sets an opposing set of Ideas making "ours" better and everyone elses not so good and sometimes just outright treasonous. Jingoism stirs the pot and creates chaos, chaos directed at other Ideas and governments.