Iran Update...

medicineman

New Member
I merely point to the truth...I know it can be frustrating to many. Sometimes things are black and white however. Unprovoked violence is ALWAYS wrong. Responding to terrorist tactics which endanger innocent civilians is ALWAYS right. When one looks at the Middle East, it is quite apparent which side is the terrorists and which side is trying to prevent civilians from being slaughtered. It's a no brainer...unless you have another agenda..


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I suppose if you were living in the West Bank or Gaza, you may have a different view of terrorism. You fail to understand, who the terrorists are, is dictated by the country one lives in. We, the USA, have basically said anyone that is not in or from the USA is or could be a terrorist, heck, under Bush even US citizens were considered terrorists. It's all in the eye of the beholder. The beauty of having terrorists as the enemy, is never ending war for the people that profit from war, a great stroke of genious from the Bush era Neo-cons.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
terrorism is wrong no matter what country you live in. It is not what civilized people do. if you condone it either passively or not...you are not civilized either.

I do not condone it and I do not condone the terrorism by the some of the jewish founders either, but that does not give an excuse to utilize it now. It is simply wrong wrong wrong. You do not kill inncoent people to get your way. You want to pick up arms and go at it...i don't condone that either, but keep it between you and your objective, not the civilians in between. Hamas is far too willing to sacrifice innocents, both Israels and their own for my tastes.

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TheBrutalTruth

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terrorism is wrong no matter what country you live in. It is not what civilized people do. if you condone it either passively or not...you are not civilized either.

I do not condone it and I do not condone the terrorism by the some of the jewish founders either, but that does not give an excuse to utilize it now. It is simply wrong wrong wrong. You do not kill inncoent people to get your way. You want to pick up arms and go at it...i don't condone that either, but keep it between you and your objective, not the civilians in between. Hamas is far too willing to sacrifice innocents, both Israels and their own for my tastes.

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My friend has had the ideal solution for years.

Take the president of a nation, and the president/ruler/dictator of the nation they want to fight and put them in a boxing ring, sans gloves, and let them go at it. The one that wins, wins, and the one that loses, loses.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
My friend has had the ideal solution for years.

Take the president of a nation, and the president/ruler/dictator of the nation they want to fight and put them in a boxing ring, sans gloves, and let them go at it. The one that wins, wins, and the one that loses, loses.

Ummm ..... Russia would own us! :lol:



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PadawanBater

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Ex-presidential advisers Brzezinski, Scowcroft urge Obama to talk to Iran

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/3182152



So what do you make of this CJ?

While you'll probably say of course this would happen as the guy advised Carter, the other guy advised G.H.W.B., and they're both saying we should talk to Iran...
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Dude, why are you even here, gtfo of this thread if you don't want to contribute a real opinion. :finger:

I'm guessing you are talking to 2head... just put "it" on ignore Paddy...:lol: So we can get back to out topic of mayhem and imam chaos... :mrgreen: I need a mushroom cloud icon!!

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PadawanBater

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I'm guessing you are talking to 2head... just put "it" on ignore Paddy...:lol: So we can get back to out topic of mayhem and imam chaos... :mrgreen: I need a mushroom cloud icon!!

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Did you see the link I posted about the two advisor's telling Obama we should talk to Iran? What do you think about that?
 

Woomeister

Well-Known Member
OMG She's on my tail!!! I can't shake the MISS!!! She just posted my right rudder off, I'm going down!! :mrgreen:


You've answered your own post Miss and that's not fair. They train their kids.....indoctrination of the young is a top priority of the church. get at them before they are capable of independent thought....and so it goes.

Being an atheist takes real balls....believing in a fairy tale is super easy.

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Correct me if Im wrong, but dont all American children raise a flag and sing the national anthem at school each day? This is a form of Nationalistic indoctrination. Correct me if im wrong, but arent all American children taught that money is all powerful? A form of Capitalist indoctrination. Every state, either indirectly, or directly, indoctrinates the children of there land, with different results. I am an atheist capitalist by the way.
 

joepro

Well-Known Member
Correct me if Im wrong, but dont all American children raise a flag and sing the national anthem at school each day?.
No, that not true. I only hear the national anthem at sporting events. When I was a kid we had to say the pledge of allegiance. but I believe that came to an end because it has the word 'god' in it.
 

Woomeister

Well-Known Member
No, that not true. I only hear the national anthem at sporting events. When I was a kid we had to say the pledge of allegiance. but I believe that came to an end because it has the word 'god' in it.
Sorry, yes the pledge of allegiance, not the anthem. The flag raising thing is always shown in the Uk press when showing any American schooling institute though. The same way that the only press showing Iranians are the radical effigy burners!
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Did you see the link I posted about the two advisor's telling Obama we should talk to Iran? What do you think about that?
Yes, I have and that will be just as effective as the U.N. negotiations which have been going on for 5 years. When a dictator or despot is working on their own desires, negotiations only increase their odds at being successful. Actions not words need to be followed. Iran's actions are an indication towards war, not peace. Of course Obama knows this, window dressing is needed for the public profile. Iran knows this too, so i expect that they will be seen as entering into negotiations with good faith. This will be a lie. Mahamoud has expressed over and over that Iran will NOT be deterred from their goal.


Sorry, yes the pledge of allegiance, not the anthem. The flag raising thing is always shown in the Uk press when showing any American schooling institute though. The same way that the only press showing Iranians are the radical effigy burners!
Both are no longer recited in our schools...for a long time now.


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