First timer, first problems. Help.

Pupu

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First grow.
Neville's Haze & Arjan's Haze #1
1.6 gallon pots with quality soil (i hope) Ph 6.5-7.2
150W MH
Watering every 4-5 days with 1/2 quart of tap water
Nute NPK 14-4.5-6.5 Vita Flora for decorative plants with leafs.

When is a sunny day i take them out wich include a drop in temp from 77F to 60F (25C to 15C)

My Neville's haze has droopy leafs, some strange swellings where the branches go out of stem and purple brances & stem...


also the leafs have a strange shape: they are folding up.

I did the mistake of feeding them twice the label dosage of nute (NPK=13-4.5-6.5) on friday and after measuring the moisture in soil on saturday i've put some 1/2 liter of plain water.. so in the end the dosage of nute went to label spec. He was in best shape ever saturday morning before that extra water.

Also friday i've FIMmed Neville's Haze and LSTem both.. last night i cut the ropes on Neville's as i decided to have a FIM and a LST





this is my other plant ...no purple (except for some on upper branches) no wierd swelings but a litle bit of that folding on upper leafs.



Also I need to know if i have to repot them and when ..now they are in day 31, 8 inches tall, 6-7 full nodes and in 1.6 gallons containers (6l)

Tnx in advance

PLEASE HELP!
 

projectinfo

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how tall do you want them when they finish in flowering... do u know if its mostly indica or sativa??
because if u repot, and go into flowering if there going to double maybe triple in size so.
and have you noticed them slow down alot in growth? could be root bound..

also looking a little purple... could be the strain or too much nutes turning purple from the salt buildup in the arteries choking the plant

and try to get ur ph down to 5.8, becaus ewhen the ph is too high or low, it bonds the nutriants together, andthe plant take them up, so it could be a deficiancy,

dead leaves will not come back so dont be discouraged , as long as u keep 50 percent of ur vegitation

so fix ur ph, check ur tds/ec and get back lol
 

projectinfo

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it also sais These preflowers usually don't develop into full flowers, but are only an indicator of the plants sex. so either take a clone, or put him in a seperate room and flower it, see if its male before you throw it out, nice move on picking up on those though buddy,i over looked it.
 

projectinfo

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also looks like you may have not fimmed low enough... if the plant just grows back missing half its leaf instead of 4-8 tops youl know why :P
purple fromthe double nutes lol
and droopy from the over watering
flush them, leave to dry, and go back at 1/2 strength

sorry so many posts i keep going up and reading more and more lol sorry
 

Pupu

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Thanks.. Helped alot.. :)

Still refuse to belive that is a boy :)

Fem seeds from green house seeds sativa mix. The one that looks like a boy is Neville's Haze almost 100% sativa ..i only got one seed and i'm not ready to give up on it..

I'll keep updating.
 

projectinfo

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therres no way to say for sure every strain and grow room conditions are different. flower it, or take a clone and flower it if you want a for sure answer
 

Pupu

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tnx again...

I'm less worried now that i found also This

About flushing... can I just let it be and go with 1/2 nutes next time? Especially that i dont see any yellow tissue.

One more question is ok to take them out in the sun when available? i only have a 150 MH/HPS so taking them out is a big boost in lumens especially that i'm using reflectors too. But outside is like 60F comparing with steady 78F in my grow room

And yet another question: for now (still vegin) is beter 150W MH or 150 HPS?
 

dbo24242

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overfeeding, underwatering, overwatering, and heat will all cause drooping branches. those 'swellings' are merely the plants support system. Its like we have muscles to raise our arms, they form support to hold up their branches. plants will stop growing for a few days to a week whenever you FIM (fuck I missed), top, or LST them, so keep that in mind too. They have to recover.
 

Pupu

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overfeeding, underwatering, overwatering, and heat will all cause drooping branches. those 'swellings' are merely the plants support system. Its like we have muscles to raise our arms, they form support to hold up their branches. plants will stop growing for a few days to a week whenever you FIM (fuck I missed), top, or LST them, so keep that in mind too. They have to recover.
Thanx for info! :)
I wait for answers also for the rest of my questions (MH vs HPS; taking them out here is colder but more light)
 

projectinfo

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dont take them outside, u could get bugs , desiease fungus, all sorts of bad stuff, usee the 150w mh its better for vegging well if theres no damage go with the normal strength id imagine
keep a lil under maybe just to be safe this time around no worrys buddy ul make it
 

Pupu

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Mh back to the socket and no trip outside today.. and the plants seems to recover :) Arjan's Haze faster but also Neville's.
I did nute burn them a little, AH1 on some leaf is turning lighter green on edges.
 
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