Boiling The Roots Before Chopping The Buds?

ONEeyedWILLY444

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this thread died and came back. kinda like jesus! only this thread is a much more important link in history. the day we all realised the error of our ways and started smoking the real stuff .....ROOTS. yes thats right throw away your bud and light up your roots the salvation is here
 

dpjones

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ok then do you trust the FAMOUS GREENMAN ??????? Check his website for same info !!!!!!
its fact NOT THEORY ! - THIS IS WHY LANDSTRAINS CLOSER TO THE EQUATOR ARE KNOWN FOR THERE POTENCY !!!!!!!!!!
I dunno who these people are but In the video the guy says the trichomes focuse the UV lght onto one point. It also says the trichomes are a defence against the UV.

And the only logical answer to me as to why high potent srains exsist nearer the sun (up high mountains) is because they get more light and thus have a perfect growing enviroment. More Lumens = More bud

Also HID lighting grows bud perfectly. it has no UV init so how can you say its needed?

He uses an example of one grower not using UV and a diff grower using it. There are so many variables in growing thats its impossible to use that example as proof. Imo the guy who used UV just let his plants go longer before harvest.
 

dpjones

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this thread died and came back. kinda like jesus! only this thread is a much more important link in history. the day we all realised the error of our ways and started smoking the real stuff .....ROOTS. yes thats right throw away your bud and light up your roots the salvation is here
.........Amen..........
 

eza82

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I dunno who these people are but In the video the guy says the trichomes focuse the UV lght onto one point. It also says the trichomes are a defence against the UV.

And the only logical answer to me as to why high potent srains exsist nearer the sun (up high mountains) is because they get more light and thus have a perfect growing enviroment. More Lumens = More bud

Also HID lighting grows bud perfectly. it has no UV init so how can you say its needed?

He uses an example of one grower not using UV and a diff grower using it. There are so many variables in growing thats its impossible to use that example as proof. Imo the guy who used UV just let his plants go longer before harvest.
sOME OF THE MOST POTENT ASIAIN ORIG LAND STRAIN SATIVAS... ARE FOUND WITH IN 15 DEGREE FROM THE EQUATOR.... NOT PARTICULARLLY AT HIGH ALTTITUDE BUT IN HOT BARON CLIMATES !
MOST TROPICAL LAND STRAINS ARE AT SEA LEVEL !
hUMIDITY ALSO PLAYS A BIG PART !
 

dpjones

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sOME OF THE MOST POTENT ASIAIN ORIG LAND STRAIN SATIVAS... ARE FOUND WITH IN 15 DEGREE FROM THE EQUATOR.... NOT PARTICULARLLY AT HIGH ALTTITUDE BUT IN HOT BARON CLIMATES !
MOST TROPICAL LAND STRAINS ARE AT SEA LEVEL !
hUMIDITY ALSO PLAYS A BIG PART !
What about the rest of my points?
 

eza82

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try growning the SAME CUTTINGS one in one out (during right season)..... and you tell me which is stronger ! I have done a few times and the outdor just sems to be stronger every time !
More light more bud is obvious, the spectrum I amtalking about dose exsist in MH.... just very little.... The idea of a THC content in a strain grown in HYDRO HID, would produce ie; high-THC plant grown in a low THC environment will likely produce a medium THC result.


Come play ! lets not hijack this thread !
THC - CBD CBN - MAKE MORE USEING UVB`s/ UVA`s..CHEAP&SIMPLE.?!!
 

Brick Top

New Member
ok then do you trust the FAMOUS GREENMAN ??????? Check his website for same info !!!!!!
its fact NOT THEORY ! - THIS IS WHY LANDSTRAINS CLOSER TO THE EQUATOR ARE KNOWN FOR THERE POTENCY !!!!!!!!!!


I believe most anything and most everything Greenman says about growing but I think there is some confusion in regards to using the term potency.


Potency and high THC levels do not always go 100% hand in hand. Durban Poison is considered to be a potent pot and is from an equatorial to semi-tropical region but it has a lower percentage/level of THC compared to many strains that are not considered to be as potent.

The right combination of THC, THCV, CBN, CBD, CBC and CBL create potency.

A landrance sativa from an equatorial region is going to have different percentages of THC, THCV, CBN, CBD, CBC and CBL that different types of marijuana.

THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high. Without THC you don't get high.

CBD (Cannabidiol)
increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.

Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dreamlike. Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a buzz or stoned feeling. The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.

CBN (Cannabinol)
is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization. High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.

CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment. Marijuana should be dry prior to storage, and may have to be dried again after being stored somewhere that is humid.

THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin)
is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis. THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner. Weed that smells strong (prior to smoking) might indicate a high level of THCV.

CBC (Cannabichromene)
is probably not psychoactive in pure form but is thought to interact with THC to enhance the high.

CBL (Cannabicyclol)
is a degradative product like CBN. Light converts CBC to CBL.

If you are a grower, you can experiment with different strains of cannabis to produce the various qualities you seek.

A medical user looking for something with sleep inducing properties might want to produce a crop that has high levels of CBD.

Another user looking for a more energetic stone will want to grow a strain that has high levels of THC and low levels of CBD.

In general, Cannabis sativa has lower levels of CBD and higher levels of THC. Cannabis indica has higher amounts of CBD and lower amounts of THC than sativa.

So all it takes is altering the percentages of the different active ingredients of marijuana and something with a lower level of THC can have a seemingly more potent effect on someone and other times it will work in an opposite manner.

You can take several different strains with 21% THC content and depending on what the percentages of the other active ingredients in the marijuana is one can stand head and shoulders above the rest and one will lag far behind in their effects because certain active ingredients work against others and others work with and increase the effects of others.

That is why a strain like Durban Poison that came from an equatorial to semi-tropical region can have a THC content, depending on whose strain you pick it can run from 5% to 15%, can give you a much more amazing ‘high’ than something with a lot of indica in it that has a 21% THC content.

It is not higher in THC content but the percentages of the different active ingredients on the marijuana work to give you a more soaring more impressive more amazing head high so to the smoker they say, wow this stuff is POTENT even though it is not as high in levels of THC as other stains that they will just say, this stuff is pretty good. And it is that sort of soaring more impressive more amazing clear cerebral head high that landrace sativas from equatorial and semi-tropical regions gives you.
 

eza82

Well-Known Member
I believe most anything and most everything Greenman says about growing but I think there is some confusion in regards to using the term potency.


Potency and high THC levels do not always go 100% hand in hand. Durban Poison is considered to be a potent pot and is from an equatorial to semi-tropical region but it has a lower percentage/level of THC compared to many strains that are not considered to be as potent.

The right combination of THC, THCV, CBN, CBD, CBC and CBL create potency.

A landrance sativa from an equatorial region is going to have different percentages of THC, THCV, CBN, CBD, CBC and CBL that different types of marijuana.

THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high. Without THC you don't get high.

CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.

Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dreamlike. Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a buzz or stoned feeling. The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.

CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization. High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.

CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment. Marijuana should be dry prior to storage, and may have to be dried again after being stored somewhere that is humid.

THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis. THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner. Weed that smells strong (prior to smoking) might indicate a high level of THCV.

CBC (Cannabichromene) is probably not psychoactive in pure form but is thought to interact with THC to enhance the high.

CBL (Cannabicyclol) is a degradative product like CBN. Light converts CBC to CBL.

If you are a grower, you can experiment with different strains of cannabis to produce the various qualities you seek.

A medical user looking for something with sleep inducing properties might want to produce a crop that has high levels of CBD.

Another user looking for a more energetic stone will want to grow a strain that has high levels of THC and low levels of CBD.

In general, Cannabis sativa has lower levels of CBD and higher levels of THC. Cannabis indica has higher amounts of CBD and lower amounts of THC than sativa.

So all it takes is altering the percentages of the different active ingredients of marijuana and something with a lower level of THC can have a seemingly more potent effect on someone and other times it will work in an opposite manner.

You can take several different strains with 21% THC content and depending on what the percentages of the other active ingredients in the marijuana is one can stand head and shoulders above the rest and one will lag far behind in their effects because certain active ingredients work against others and others work with and increase the effects of others.

That is why a strain like Durban Poison that came from an equatorial to semi-tropical region can have a THC content, depending on whose strain you pick it can run from 5% to 15%, can give you a much more amazing ‘high’ than something with a lot of indica in it that has a 21% THC content.

It is not higher in THC content but the percentages of the different active ingredients on the marijuana work to give you a more soaring more impressive more amazing head high so to the smoker they say, wow this stuff is POTENT even though it is not as high in levels of THC as other stains that they will just say, this stuff is pretty good. And it is that sort of soaring more impressive more amazing clear cerebral head high that landrace sativas from equatorial and semi-tropical regions gives you.
:clap::clap::clap::clap: - nice post !
- this I understand.... it is thought that it is UVB that triggers and manipulates all of the above ! So in theory it is possible to induce more of (the above)... by introducing such spectrums (nm)..
 

Brick Top

New Member
:clap::clap::clap::clap: - nice post !
- this I understand.... it is thought that it is UVB that triggers and manipulates all of the above ! So in theory it is possible to induce more of (the above)... by introducing such spectrums (nm)..

I would agree with that … to a degree. There will always be a genetic factor at play that will limit certain things but yes to a degree it is logical that different amounts of UVB lighting may ‘fine tune’ or ‘tweak’ certain active ingredients in marijuana.

It will not alter genetics, you could not take a landrace indica and grow it on the equator and turn it into a sativa high but I would say that it would most likely have somewhat increased levels of some active ingredients and somewhat decreased levels of other active ingredients when compared to the exact same genetic strain grown in a region far away from the equator.
 

spiked1

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This is all extremely interesting guys, but way too serious for hijacking this particular thread, and way off topic, (too serious)
BrickTop, eza has a couple of great threads going that are more suited to your current topic, he has a link in his posts, I'm sure you'd be more than welcome there as you appear to have an extensive knowledge on the subject.:weed:
 

Brick Top

New Member
This is all extremely interesting guys, but way too serious for hijacking this particular thread, and way off topic, (too serious)
BrickTop, eza has a couple of great threads going that are more suited to your current topic, he has a link in his posts, I'm sure you'd be more than welcome there as you appear to have an extensive knowledge on the subject.:weed:

Not to be argumentative but I was replying to something someone previously stated so it is not as if I swerved or hijacked the thread.

I might suggest that you track back through the thread to where the original topic was altered and inform that person, and everyone else since then who also posted off topic, that they should have posted what they wrote elsewhere.

If you have done that and I missed it then I spoke out of turn. If not then you did.

As for the topic of this thread, well it is beyond just being ridiculous. It is a damp tuft of crab infested rectal pubic hair on the anus of the forum. If it were not for its humor value it would have no value at all.
 

spiked1

Well-Known Member
Not to be argumentative but I was replying to something someone previously stated so it is not as if I swerved or hijacked the thread.

I might suggest that you track back through the thread to where the original topic was altered and inform that person, and everyone else since then who also posted off topic, that they should have posted what they wrote elsewhere.

If you have done that and I missed it then I spoke out of turn. If not then you did.

As for the topic of this thread, well it is beyond just being ridiculous. It is a damp tuft of crab infested rectal pubic hair on the anus of the forum. If it were not for its humor value it would have no value at all.
Well, what I said was a bit tongue in cheek, but I've been following this thread since it started and it's been fun, but I suggest you take your own advice and read the whole thing.
10 points to the original poster for having a sence of humour though.
You need to chill man, you are way too serious.:-o
 
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