Do you believe in God?

Do you believe there is a God?

  • YES, I believe there is a God/creator

    Votes: 92 46.2%
  • NO, I do not believe there is a God/creator

    Votes: 107 53.8%

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GregD88

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i think me and you are on the same page here.

God revealed himself to me in 2006 when my best freind was murdered by some punk city kid that was trying to steal his dirt bike. Even more so when i almost died on sept 11 2006 in my car accident.


suedonimn, we shouldnt even comment on this site anymore about god because the people here are so blind, so dumb founded by what "evidence" (or lack there of) religion offers, when in fact it offers you peace, but they chose to use hate and prejudice against those of us with a clue about what love is etc...

Im just glad someone with faith stepped up the the plate against these "people" and try'd as i did.

Kudos my friend :clap:
Why don't you just find a fucking religious forum instead of being on here? The only reason people don't like you is because you're crazy and ignorant, not because we're atheists. I respect everyone's beliefs, just not yours because I don't respect you.

You act like atheists are such bad fucking people
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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That is a wonderful post roseman.

But my questions still stand.....

How have you "tasted god" and "tasted jesus" what did you experience that gave you the sense that these things were real.

I completely understand all that about the natural laws and we accept them and they were named god but why does it have to have to be something?
Just because the laws are there and govern our lives doesn't mean it is a higher power. Its just natural law.

What about the afterlife?
You said nothing about that.
and that is my biggest problem with religion is they claim to know what goes on in the afterlife and give people a possibly false sense of hope.
I cannot fathom why it is more important to live your life being "good" so your after life that may or may not exist will be everything you want it to be.

My point is people should be good for the life they have and the only life they are truly guaranteed

Ok ill use your qoute because well.... You still dont not understand religion or the bible... ill keep this short....


The bible is a guide for the human soul. Something that you athiest people do not understand. So what is the soul?

The soul is the immaterial part of a person. It is usually thought to consist of one's thoughts and personality, and can be synonymous with the spirit, mind or self.

The bible is an explanation of how to build your soul, and how to control it. Your soul can be quite violent, but over time and with help, you can mold it into something useful for society and yourself. That is if you try. ...Athiests dont not try. they believe that the way they are and the way they live is perfect for them...Really? So theres nothing bad about yourself that you want to change? If you answer no, then you are not an athiest. You are nothing more than a plague to yourself and to society.


The bible isnt about the superficial, its about the immaterial. its about whats going on in your head, and how to control it for the good of everyone on this planet.

Oh and incase you dont understand what a metaphor is...

Metaphor:

a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them (as in drowning in money) ; broadly : figurative language
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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I just prefer to stay in the realm of reality. :peace:


out. :blsmoke:

lol you believe in the now. Like a 5 year old kid wanting his cookies, you need proof when the proof is in your own head, yet you refuse to listen and blindly walk a path of ignorance, in return for what? ..More ignorance.

Dont be afraid to learn people.
 

GregD88

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Ok ill use your qoute because well.... You still dont not understand religion or the bible... ill keep this short....


The bible is a guide for the human soul. Something that you athiest people do not understand. So what is the soul?

The soul is the immaterial part of a person. It is usually thought to consist of one's thoughts and personality, and can be synonymous with the spirit, mind or self.

The bible is a explanation of how to build you soul, and how to control it. Your soul can be quite violent but you can mold it into something useful for society, if you try. Athiests dont not try. they believe that the way they are and the way they live is perfect for them...Really? So theres nothing bad about yourself that you want to change? If you answer no, then you are not an athiest. You are nothing more than a plague to yourself and to society.


The bible isnt about the superficial, its about the immaterial. its about whats going on in your head, and how to control it for the good of everyone on this planet.

Oh and incase you dont understand what a metaphor is...

Metaphor:

a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them (as in drowning in money) ; broadly : figurative language
Get the fuck out of here imo, no one cares about anything you fucking post

http://www.christianforumsite.com/ Go there and spew your bullshit


 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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Why don't you just find a fucking religious forum instead of being on here? The only reason people don't like you is because you're crazy and ignorant, not because we're atheists. I respect everyone's beliefs, just not yours because I don't respect you.

You act like atheists are such bad fucking people

LOLOL arent they? dont they believe more about evil ways, about how to survive in the now? ..instead of living for the NOW and Tommorow?

You dont respect me because i believe something you dont and you feel I look down on you for your beliefs, when really i dont look down on you, I only look down on your blatent ignorance towards those of us who do believe in religion and what good it can and has done over thousands of years.


TBH every post that an athiest has made on here has been nothing shy of blasphemy while acting like children making fun of us who do believe in something.

You claim we are the idiots and all athiests debate is whether or not a physical god exsists. LOL every post ive made has been about how you have to look past the physical and look into the immaterial... but apparently athiests are to close minded to even comprehend such things.


EDIT: BTW i do believe this thread is called "Do you believe in god" so why wouldnt i post my views here? ...Sorry im shitting on your athiest parade...
 

GlassFreak

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I just prefer to stay in the realm of reality. :peace:


out. :blsmoke:
me too..... well.... kinda..... drugs are fun.... and they do take you to a different plain, they take you to different dimentions, different dimentions are after all different realitys, forms of conciousness and oposite understanding. when you do drugs your perseption of everything is altered, in a different state, or different existance. i like to see paralel dimentions as different forms of conciousness, could you imagin how different an ant colony would be to live in? our reality is only reality because it is ours, our reality is not the reality of ants. its a different form of existance.
 

GregD88

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EDIT: BTW i do believe this thread is called "Do you believe in god" so why wouldnt i post my views here? ...Sorry im shitting on your athiest parade...

LOLOL arent they? dont they believe more about evil ways, about how to survive in the now? ..instead of living for the NOW and Tommorow?

You dont respect me because i believe something you dont and you feel I look down on you for your beliefs, when really i dont look down on you, I only look down on your blatent ignorance towards those of us who do believe in religion and what good it can and has done over thousands of years.


TBH every post that an athiest has made on here has been nothing shy of blasphemy while acting like children making fun of us who do believe in something.

You claim we are the idiots and all athiests debate is whether or not a physical god exsists. LOL every post ive made has been about how you have to look past the physical and look into the immaterial... but apparently athiests are to close minded to even comprehend such things.
You're not shitting on us, you're avoiding everyone's arguments.

You can't say I'm ignorant cuz I was a christian for over half my fucking life and I've actually read the bible twice. You've probably never even read it once.

I respect other people's beliefs but you're a fucking bigot so I don't respect the bullshit you believe in.
 

GlassFreak

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LOLOL arent they? dont they believe more about evil ways, about how to survive in the now? ..instead of living for the NOW and Tommorow?

You dont respect me because i believe something you dont and you feel I look down on you for your beliefs, when really i dont look down on you, I only look down on your blatent ignorance towards those of us who do believe in religion and what good it can and has done over thousands of years.


TBH every post that an athiest has made on here has been nothing shy of blasphemy while acting like children making fun of us who do believe in something.

You claim we are the idiots and all athiests debate is whether or not a physical god exsists. LOL every post ive made has been about how you have to look past the physical and look into the immaterial... but apparently athiests are to close minded to even comprehend such things.


EDIT: BTW i do believe this thread is called "Do you believe in god" so why wouldnt i post my views here? ...Sorry im shitting on your athiest parade...
mk. here, this is a really easy way to avoid further anxiety for many people in this thread, including you. GO DOWN ON THIS PAGE AND CLICK "UNSUBSCRIBE".
 

GlassFreak

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the thing is puffpuff, you keep talking about how great god is and how god revieled himself to you, but then you talk about how the bible is just a metaphor. your very confusing.

i took to much acid one night, i usualy take like 2 at a time, i took 7... anyway i had myself and everyone else convinced i was dieing, and i really thought that if i went to bed at the time i wouldnt wake up.

at the most intence part of the trip, i came to the conclution that i was a descendant of god somhow. i thought that it was my responsability to keep god on earth through me, and i thought i was dieing that night, i was thinking about getting my gf pregnant so i wouldnt have to worry... now this is after me being really athiest for a long time already... so it was wierd... your brain can do some wierd stuff when its trigered the right way. when you come close to death is probably the most powerful triger.
 

icurbyou

Well-Known Member
Im just glad someone with faith stepped up the the plate against these "people" and try'd as i did.
Wow... You put the word PEOPLE in quotes as if to say we aren't people. You know what you need to realize? You think we aren't people, yet, you believe GOD created us. Guess what, you are suppose to LOVE me. God wants you to. Quoting PEOPLE as though insinuating we are less than human is not loving. Hypocritical.



Your soul can be quite violent, but over time and with help, you can mold it into something useful for society and yourself. That is if you try. ...Athiests dont not try. they believe that the way they are and the way they live is perfect for them...Really? So theres nothing bad about yourself that you want to change? If you answer no, then you are not an athiest. You are nothing more than a plague to yourself and to society.
What the are you talking about? "One's SOUL CAN BE QUITE VIOLENT" ?? If you think by NATURE one's soul is VIOLENT prior to "FINDING GOD/JESUS", I find that to be very disturbing.

Athiests dont try to be useful in society? Athiests dont want to change aspects of their life??? Again, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Can you show me any examples of this please.


The bible isnt about the superficial, its about the immaterial. its about whats going on in your head, and how to control it for the good of everyone on this planet.
Not sure what bible you are reading but "The Holy Bible" that is linked to religions such as Christianity do not talk about whats going on in one's head and how to control it.

You clearly have never read the book.


LOLOL arent they? dont they believe more about evil ways, about how to survive in the now? ..instead of living for the NOW and Tommorow?
So, now athiests dont live for the tomorrow? If that's true why would athiests recycle, care for the Earth, have careers, be in love, etc.

Believe more about EVIL WAYS??? HAHAHAHA. What the hell.. I dont think you know what an Athiest is.

Athiests are normal people. You are confusing ATHIESM for the stereotypical SATANIST. You clearly are not comprehending "NO GOD" is different than "FUCK GOD, I LOVE SATAN!". You need to step back and really think "Do I know what Im talking about?" before you blast your words.
 

GlassFreak

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n e way, what im saying is that, when you believe in god, you believe he exists through you and others, and also in heaven... now when you dont believe, he isnt anywere, because he doesnt exist. now there might be other things that represent what god represents, but no god.

whichever one you are, makes it true for your world, each persons world is theyre own, when someone dies, theyre world ends. so for each person, theyre beliefs are true in therye world. but you can change your world, when others try to change your world its like an invation... ESPESIALY THE PEOPLE THAT JUST SPEW THE SAME SHIT MY METHED OUT SENILE RELIGION TEACHER USED TO SAY WHEN I DISSAGREED...
 

RetiredToker76

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LOLOL arent they? dont they believe more about evil ways, about how to survive in the now? ..instead of living for the NOW and Tommorow?
First of all you both need to stop with the personal attacks. You both have made some valid and interesting points until you got personal and started attacking each other.

To answer that question PPPO, no atheists do not believe in 'evil' things. 99% of this revolves around definition. While many people do not believe in a singular deity it doesn't mean they don't follow the teachings of the New Testament. Evil is the intent to do harm to others. I for one do not believe in this intent nor do I proscribe to any organized religion or monotheistic religion. I doubt the validity of the 'supernatural' claims in the bible but that does not make me an evil doer.

Saying all atheists/agnostics do evil is like saying all Christians are hypocrites. Neither is a true statement. Humans are humans and those who violate the humanistic laws do so no matter what their religious preference is or isn't.

-RT76
 

Hayduke

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Wow I take a day off and you guys let in someone crazier than me...I am going to have to break up the response as just about everything this guy says is looney. Here we go...
Have you ever thought about WHY the rich try to control the poor? Its because the poor will do anything to become rich! And they have no concern for themselves or others! ....Hmmm this sounds familiar


i dont understand why people put rich people down. Yes they dont like poor people, but thats becuase poor people DO NOT UNDERSTAND! They do not understand the nature of any type of government. Rich people are born into Education, thats why the rich protect the rich.


Again i can not stress the importance of religion because without the hope of a progress, without the hope of self worth to ones family and COUNTRY, We have nothing and we regress back to the wild wild west, or worse federalism/Oligarchy.

I honestly can not believe how blind you all are. :wall:
Well I will give you one thing...poor people can not understand you because you are talking total nonsense. Poor people do not care about anyone, including themselves? So rich people do not like poor people because they do not understand the nature of government? Dude, you need to leave the cul-de-sac cuz you obviously have led one hell of a sheltered life.

Oh yeah...that's what people need...false hope. Lie to them, that ought to give them your "self worth" (to family and country). You sound like you overheard some stuff at a boyscout meeting but were too busy playing your gameboy to really get anything. Unfortunately this was not a momentary lapse of reason.

OH PLEASEEEE


Im sorry if im coming off as a dick but Poor people are the most ignorant people on the earth. All they want is something for nothing. You have to work for everything in this life.
No need to apologize when you mean it. You are obviously too young to have really ever worked. With few exceptions the rich have gotten that way on the backs of the poor. The bs you here about the self made wealth is total bs. you can not get rich by being fair. You get rich by paying much less for labor than your net profit. What do you know about the poor people of the earth? Yopu have dated a bunch of rich girls...how many poor ignorant lazy girls have you dated? Do you even have a clue as to what the word "ignorant" means? Well here you go Einstein...It simply means to not know. It says nothing about intelligence, though when used improperly to elevate ones self above others it speaks volumes.

Well i rest my case. You "BELIEVE" in nothing but yourself, so how does that make you any different than the wealthy? Do you think they believe in god? haha hell no because to believe in a religion is to believe in your people, to believe in the hearts of those that follow the same path of hope, hope of something better, not hope that i will get rich one day.

Wealth is nothing. Money is nothing. Our minds are the key to everything we need, but when it comes to society and civilization, what is there to hold it together? RELIGION.
Now you are speaking the true double talk that is often used (especially by 13yo daughters) to trick and confuse. First you align yourself with the enlightend rich, claiming that "Poor people are the most ignorant people on the earth. All they want is something for nothing. You have to work for everything in this life." Then that money is nothing but your mind is what is important. Now your mind is all that you need...but you still need religion to keep it all together? I am confused (sorry I am poor), When you say "when it comes to society and civilization, what is there to hold it together? RELIGION", are you meaning holding the society of civilized poor together?

And dude come on...religion does not hold civilization together, it tears it apart. Again leave the Cul-de-sac and go speak to an Afghani. Ask them what has happened to their country and what the root of the problem is. With tears in their eyes they will tell you it is religion (religion using the vehicle of invading Arabs and Pakis)


You act like you can't live morally without religion. Religion has caused wars for thousands of year, we'd be better off without it.
Thank you for a little truth amongest the spittle.

WRONG!

Guns dont kill people, People kill people.
This was written in response to GregD88...your comment is again meaningless double talk...sure you are not a 13 year old girl? I share your views on gun control (maybe) though I am sure the vista ends there. But what was your point? Cuz a person with a gun who believes he is doing the lords work and will be rewarded on the big shinny cloud is scary. Maybe crazy people with guns kill people. Choose your delusion.

religion is one of the few things in the world that can tear a mother from her son and turn a brother against his brother, and son against his father. religion is the devil.
yup!

People kill people "over religion"
Yup!

so everyone kill everyone different from you!
Allah Akbar!

understand people that the message im trying to get accross is not that you should believe in the heavens and whatever a pastor tells you, but you should understand the need to unite over the common wealth of man.


It all starts with you...But you still have to have faith in the people around you. We can not have Athiest people (like bill maher) preaching to people about how better life will be without religion. because this is EXACTLY what the government wants. Hell its been going on for 8 years. Our freedoms have been constantly taken advantage of for the governments advantage to control its citzens.

The day of reckoning has passed, and still MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of people do nothing about it. they just let it happen and go with the flow.

We are nothing but a lazy nation anymore. Wake up people!
Ignoring the dribble on the "day of reckoning"...Unity of the Human race would be nice. Religion is the polar opposite. What is the benefit of false hope, and what are the repercussions when the falsehood is revealed?
Is it a preacher shot during services? Or is it 10 people in Alabama murdered? I am not sure either. You are quite confused about the last 8 years, I assume this is because of your youth? The last 8 years have been led by a born again (wealthy) christian. And yes Gov. is trying to control people...that is why they have used religion!!!!!!!! One nation under god my ass! Many nations under the sun!

Put down the cap' crunch, turn off sponge bob, and quit leaching off your parents. Go get a job, work hard, pay your bills. You will meet some ignorant poor people who will love to have you open their eyes. then it will be perfectly clear as to why their boss pays them less than a livable wage. It is because they do not understand Government. Oh yeah and they are lazy. Go clean rooms at a motel...watch fat latinas work circle around you while you complain about your back. Go get a job at a restaurant. See if the latino cooks will respect all your knowledge while they make you look like a punk working circles around you, all the time wanting something for nothing. By the way that is there second job, they worked an 8 hour shift before your you got of your priviledged ass. Of course they are ignorant (again meaning not knowing) they are too busy being lazy working 2-3 jobs to take care of the often extended family that they do not care about...remember all they care about is themselves. These people are often religious. And who could blame them. They are too busy making your Daddy rich so he can tell you stories about hard work.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Roseman,

See, the whole "problem" with your post is that you are calling laws of nature "GOD".

I just can not accept GOD as an old man on a throne as a king. The GOD I do beliee in, is the LAW of the Universe and the Force or Power that makes and holds it all togehter. God is LIFE. When some say "that's life" I believe "that's God".


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Also, I am curious to hear your opinion on this next question:

You bring up the fact that "we" (likely) believe in even though we have not personally seen/whatevered them.

But yet we dispute the possibility of Jesus/God.

So, let me ask you.. Why do you think we do this? Why would we accept Pluto (planet), neutrons, atoms, Abraham Lincoln and George Washington... But not Jesus, God, Adam/Eve, etc?
Why do you think that is?
It is so lillogocal to me, for you or anyone to accept so many things on faith,
"the planet Pluto, or any neutrons, or atoms, or Abraham Lincoln or George Washington"
unseen, un experiecned, but not accept that the universe has a LAW that it operates on. That you can not accept what so many do . In my mind, I jsut say it is lack of faith, lack of conviction, lack of investigation, MAYBE just a lack of not knowing. IF I told you I had a magic pill, that did all sorts of wonders, and you saw me happy on it, I think you would wnat to investigate it, check it out. But if I say that magic pill is having a relationship with God, you immediately have no interest. That's my answer, it is just illogical to me.
 
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