SOG growers wanted !!!

[grandpabear3]

i just read this due to my side project but....al said in a sog like we all do here you DO get a bit of a flush because we only top up tanks with fresh water and ph afterwards. never additional nutes, so at the end of your 2 week, or in mine and some others cases 3 weeks your tubs will be pretty pale and the nutes will have been used up for the most part.......not a flush per se' but still better than 1400ppm the day of the chop. so keep that in mind folks, this method offers you a taste of what benefits flushing can have and if like ros you like it then do it. if your pallet can tell the difference or your patients for that matter then by all means flush. otherwise enjoy and know that you got a teeny tiny lil semi flush going on that's embedded into your op design whether you knew it or not.

bring on the haters, i'm ready

 

[GreenGold]

water cure the harvest instead of flushing

 

[10mm fan boy]

Yo Bugs
If I took everything you said into account right, then I should be able to fit 3 mothers and a mother in progress on a 1.5x2' tray, correct?
I already have the tray, so if it will work I want to use it.
Also I am thinking about dumping the two 2x4 trays in favor of a 3x3 under my 600 hps for 66.66 watts per cf

 

[DeweyKox]

Inches sorry. Will weight once dry! Thanks

 

[grandpabear3]

water cure the harvest instead of flushing

water curing isnt for me. dont like it at all, it's counterintuitive to everything .......well nevermind. if it works for you ok, but to those of you who dont know about it. read up on it in the grow faq and you will be like wtf....... i say no way in hell. i would however like to put my ww up against any strain of water cured bud just to see.

Yo Bugs
If I took everything you said into account right, then I should be able to fit 3 mothers and a mother in progress on a 1.5x2' tray, correct?

ya and you might even fit another mom n there. try to replace 2 at a time for that many plants.

Also I am thinking about dumping the two 2x4 trays in favor of a 3x3 under my 600 hps for 66.66 watts per cf

well.........i love 2x4's , and more importantly your talking about a difference of ~37.5wpsf......wich is signifigant but you'll lose 28 plants worth of potential profit by going to the smaller table. dont do it i beg you, unlesss you have some reason/need for it. the amount you gain with the added wpsf will not be greater than the amount you'll lose due to plant count. just my opinion, but i'm pretty awesome.

Inches sorry. Will weight once dry! Thanks

oh wow they were small clones then. right on.

 

[livesoul]

Yo team, can i get some insight into lollipoppin. Can see some sick jokes coming outta that sentence. Anyways...how often do you do it? Approx how many inches up the stem do you go? Any tips techniques? Thanks.

 

[grandpabear3]

Yo team,

dont say yo, it scares sparkafire

can i get some insight into lollipoppin.

sure thing you betcha

Can see some sick jokes coming outta that sentence.

really!!!! get your mind outta the gutter.

Anyways...how often do you do it?

at the end of the first week of flower and the end of the third week of flower.

Approx how many inches up the stem do you go?

al does a third i do more like a 1/4 of the length of the plant. your circulation may be bad or good so thin it out accordingly.

Any tips

dont cry in front of the plants....girls dont like to see that shit. and cut the branch not the stem(dont ask).

techniques?

really, you have got to quit being perverted.

Thanks.

sure thing

 

[livesoul]

also, i'm wondering what differences you guys have with satives and indicas. I'm flowering 100% sativa's and these bitches are tall as hell. like 4 feet, falling over, and looking like its not gonna yield alot. 5 weeks into it, and these ho's are suppose to produce an "enormous" yield and are supposibly ideal for SOG. (per attitudes info). I'm thinking they are stretching too high and I could be better off doing indica strains. I have a 1000wat HPS 48 inchs above a 4x4 tray at 4 plants per square foot. Light penetration looks fantastic, running FloraNova Bloom at 1300ppm. No H202 in my rez but i have a gallon of the 35% H202, was only using it for steralizing my gardening tools. I'm doing perpetual grow. Can't lower the light because i'm doing a quarter of the tray every 2 weeks. So got like the tall ones in with the perpetuals. I'm reading about you guys usings boosts and such, should i be doing some of this?

 

[grandpabear3]

how's that for speedy service?
i should get paid.........i'm turning into al's lil wannabe protoge'

totally kidding........but one day ........maybe, just maybe....one day

 

[livesoul]

sure thing

Cool man, that was a quick response. Appreciate it! Also, just got my med license. I'm legit finally, had it years ago but didn't renew...my restless leg syndrome is acting up!

 

[livesoul]

Bugs weren't you gonna do another thread with a cumulation of the info found on this thread?

 

[grandpabear3]

also, i'm wondering what differences you guys have with satives and indicas. I'm flowering 100% sativa's and these bitches are tall as hell. like 4 feet, falling over, and looking like its not gonna yield alot. 5 weeks into it, and these ho's are suppose to produce an "enormous" yield and are supposibly ideal for SOG. (per attitudes info). I'm thinking they are stretching too high and I could be better off doing indica strains. I have a 1000wat HPS 48 inchs above a 4x4 tray at 4 plants per square foot. Light penetration looks fantastic, running FloraNova Bloom at 1300ppm. No H202 in my rez but i have a gallon of the 35% H202, was only using it for steralizing my gardening tools. I'm doing perpetual grow. Can't lower the light because i'm doing a quarter of the tray every 2 weeks. So got like the tall ones in with the perpetuals. I'm reading about you guys usings boosts and such, should i be doing some of this?

i think your fine man, my white widow does that shit if i'm not carefull but it still comes through in the end of flowering. the last 2 weeks are amazing. my indicas stay short and made me wish i had started growing with those, but i love my ww. take smaller clones and dont veg at all if you are. you can also adjust a few things like watering times and media to play around and fine tune everything. everything else sounds perfect. h2o2 is one hell of a good cleaner, if you dont need it in the res then cool beans. god i love sog

 

[grandpabear3]

Cool man, that was a quick response. Appreciate it! Also, just got my med license. I'm legit finally, had it years ago but didn't renew...my restless leg syndrome is acting up!

i'm jealous

Bugs weren't you gonna do another thread with a cumulation of the info found on this thread?

yes, i am doing a sog bible . condensing all of al's info and lots of our own. all narrated by me. but i type real slow so it'll take a decade or so.

 

[grandpabear3]

sativas are scary till the end then those sparse buds reach up and crawl up the next one's ass and make a spiral staircase that looks like emerald jello..........ok, i got a lil carried away there. but watch em. my indicas are fat 3weeks in and look better than the widow.....till the end. sparky has to stake his, mine just be scrong i spose. i only use hydroton now for the medium and water twice per lights on

 

[livesoul]

i'm jealous

yes, i am doing a sog bible . condensing all of al's info and lots of our own. all narrated by me. but i type real slow so it'll take a decade or so.

Thats awesome, you got some eager proof readers here on this site. You should call it "SOG Growers Wanted"

 

[livesoul]

"emerald jello"...that is fuckin hilarious. Alright, i hope so. Really hoping this goes good! I'll stake them then. Thanks.

 

[GreenGold]

I volunteer to help you write this book bugs. I would love to read something a bit more specific and complicated than anything Ive ever found. the basis of the book should be startup cost vs. operating cost vs. labor vs. efficiency.
BTW I have water cured my skunk #1, although I like the taste of the watercure better (more earthy) I think I too would stick with normal aircure.
A good watercured bud reminded me more of smoking hash that weed, a whole different buzz altogether

 

[10mm fan boy]

My trays are made for rw so I need new ones any way but I may stick with the 2x4.
The trays I was looking at are 7" so do I make the over flow at about 5" or so?
Also will 20g be enough per 2x4?

 

[SpruceZeus]

My trays are made for rw so I need new ones any way but I may stick with the 2x4.
The trays I was looking at are 7" so do I make the over flow at about 5" or so?
Also will 20g be enough per 2x4?

I've only been in hydro for a couple weeks, so i'm probably not qualified to start answering questions, but heres my 2 cents.

Heres one of my 2x4 trays, My resevoir is a big honkin roughneck, I fill with 20 gallons and it is pretty much the perfect amount. There is just enough water to completely flood the tray, and yet too little to go over the edge. I cut my overflow tube about 2" below the very top, again, it seems to be about perfect.
Again, i am very new to the waterpark, so take with a grain of salt, but it works for me, your milage may vary.

 

[grandpabear3]

yup, 2x4 tables = 20 gallon res.
floods to the overflow and leaves enough water in the tub so that the pump dont run dry