Stoney McFried's diary of a level two plant slayer(a grow journal)

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Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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Thanks.Yeah, The soil was burning her, I think, that's why I transplanted.And I have both a tds and ph meter, and tips told me to get the former, too.
Leilani Garden said:
Yes, and yes.

I do recall toxic shock. Those things were made out of synthetic sponge material and people who got it were usually not following directions.

And yes, Stoney, I just read the last few pages and see that you are indeed having some problems.

I am NO expert and have hardly any experience, but I do believe that Tips and New Growth--who both helped me so much--are right when they say that you're way better going easy on nutrients. The other stuff has me lost--ph levels in the water, compared to the ph level in the soil, etc. I think it was Tips who was so adamant with me that I get a tds meter. I have one now, but did not use it during my grow. I would, however, I think if I was having the problems you are having.

But Tips was also adamant that (1) it's a weed (2) you need soil, lights, water to grow it. Making it more complicated than it has to be leads to problems.

I did have to flush once. I had to replace all the soil in five plants. It sucked, and took a few hours, but after I did it, all was well. And since then, I've erred on teh side of caution with good results.

So I'm just spitting back out what my TEACHER taught me! (And teach, by the way, you have mail; yeah, I see you here, hanging out . . . shifty eyes and all :-P

Sending you hugs Stoney and hoping things improve. KISS, right? Simplicity, I mean?
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Leilani Garden

Leilani Garden

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Stoney McFried said:
Thanks.Yeah, The soil was burning her, I think, that's why I transplanted.And I have both a tds and ph meter, and tips told me to get the former, too.
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So? I guess now it's just a wait-n-see game to figure out if what you did will help things get back on track. It hasn't been that long since i've visited your journal, so it sounds as though whatever caused it maybe wasn't such a prolonged thing, and since you've taken swift action, maybe it'll soon be gone? I hope so. I know it worked for me--presto, things improved right away.

Night all!
 
tipsgnob

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Leilani Garden said:
Yes, and yes.

I do recall toxic shock. Those things were made out of synthetic sponge material and people who got it were usually not following directions.

And yes, Stoney, I just read the last few pages and see that you are indeed having some problems.

I am NO expert and have hardly any experience, but I do believe that Tips and New Growth--who both helped me so much--are right when they say that you're way better going easy on nutrients. The other stuff has me lost--ph levels in the water, compared to the ph level in the soil, etc. I think it was Tips who was so adamant with me that I get a tds meter. I have one now, but did not use it during my grow. I would, however, I think if I was having the problems you are having.

But Tips was also adamant that (1) it's a weed (2) you need soil, lights, water to grow it. Making it more complicated than it has to be leads to problems.

I did have to flush once. I had to replace all the soil in five plants. It sucked, and took a few hours, but after I did it, all was well. And since then, I've erred on teh side of caution with good results.

So I'm just spitting back out what my TEACHER taught me! (And teach, by the way, you have mail; yeah, I see you here, hanging out . . . shifty eyes and all :-P

Sending you hugs Stoney and hoping things improve. KISS, right? Simplicity, I mean?
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did you ever find your tit?
 
Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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I hope so.I'm off, too.Night!
Leilani Garden said:
So? I guess now it's just a wait-n-see game to figure out if what you did will help things get back on track. It hasn't been that long since i've visited your journal, so it sounds as though whatever caused it maybe wasn't such a prolonged thing, and since you've taken swift action, maybe it'll soon be gone? I hope so. I know it worked for me--presto, things improved right away.

Night all!
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Twistyman

Twistyman

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MG can be a good soil..but from all I've read if you don't have a good diagnostic nose you can get your ass.(as cute as it is ) bitten.. like guys you read who use 1000000 different nutes.. fine,.. may work great but if you can't spot and fix a problem then you start down the road of Ahhh..!!!..do this and it gets worse thing.. I've learned that 70% of the initial info I got was good..but only if you knew how to spot problems and fix them... I'm a big fan of square 1.... new, clean soil..just water, watch for new GREEN growth and then start your regiment again, slowly.... you can flush and nute till you turn your weed to brown dust..I did...1st day ill..3rd day brown...6th day dead.... any problems I see I stop dead.. flush..then wait... watch the new growth..what was was and you can't green a brown leaf..etc granted .I think it was fdd who wisely said outside plants you just water and feed... but inside plants are a whole different game because (To Me) of the forcing grow style... temps/humidity..etc.....

Hang in there Stoney... may not be an OZ per this time...but you'll have learned some valuable info... granted the hard way... most of us do..............
 
Twistyman

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EKIMRI said:
Wow Twisty... You're the pragmatic voice in the room today.



And I agree. Go figure. bongsmilie

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Hey EKIMRI..sorry I missed you..busy day..
Pragmatism has fuck all to do with it.. closest I can figure with growing inside plants is that they're suicidal by nature..yeah for some after practice they'll behave.. but that learning curve is a bitch....

I swore by 20-20-20 nutes..still do in a pinch..but what a battle....
lower end of curve as it were..................................................you are here................................................................................
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............................x......................... I could have got silly but you catch my drift..:hump:
 
EKIMRI

EKIMRI

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Good drifting Twist...

Always keep it simple, build slowly and only change one variable at a time...


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Stoney McFried

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I hear ya.All the other leaves have perked up, but those fans are gonna go.That's fine, there are plenty of leaves, and I'm gonna veg this girl probably until June, since the old man is getting me vents. Since she's had this much stress,I'm not going to attempt the scrog this grow.I'm just going to let her do what she is supposed to do,and let her tell me when she wants some more nutes.That soil was definitely the culprit, and my adding even a smidge more nutes put her over the top.I should have followed the rule, "When in doubt, flush." Now she's recovering,and hopefully, with extra veg time, I'll get a decent yield of potent pot. The clones are rooting,and I will soon give them over to their new home, which will be outdoors.
Twistyman said:
MG can be a good soil..but from all I've read if you don't have a good diagnostic nose you can get your ass.(as cute as it is ) bitten.. like guys you read who use 1000000 different nutes.. fine,.. may work great but if you can't spot and fix a problem then you start down the road of Ahhh..!!!..do this and it gets worse thing.. I've learned that 70% of the initial info I got was good..but only if you knew how to spot problems and fix them... I'm a big fan of square 1.... new, clean soil..just water, watch for new GREEN growth and then start your regiment again, slowly.... you can flush and nute till you turn your weed to brown dust..I did...1st day ill..3rd day brown...6th day dead.... any problems I see I stop dead.. flush..then wait... watch the new growth..what was was and you can't green a brown leaf..etc granted .I think it was fdd who wisely said outside plants you just water and feed... but inside plants are a whole different game because (To Me) of the forcing grow style... temps/humidity..etc.....

Hang in there Stoney... may not be an OZ per this time...but you'll have learned some valuable info... granted the hard way... most of us do..............
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onthedl0008

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Yea stoney it doesnt matter how perfect u have ur grow operating something is always bound to come along and create some kinda problem.
I actually grow in a 50/50 blend of MG and MG Perlite and have never really had any significant problems growing this way. They almost always harvest and harvest great bud.
Maybe not the best but very easy to use long as u make sure u water is pH'd correctly when ya water.
I suck at soil tho. Just my 2 cents.
 
Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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Thanks for the advice.I think we tend to panic a little when it's OUR plant,lol.
onthedl0008 said:
Yea stoney it doesnt matter how perfect u have ur grow operating something is always bound to come along and create some kinda problem.
I actually grow in a 50/50 blend of MG and MG Perlite and have never really had any significant problems growing this way. They almost always harvest and harvest great bud.
Maybe not the best but very easy to use long as u make sure u water is pH'd correctly when ya water.
I suck at soil tho. Just my 2 cents.
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"SICC"

"SICC"

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Stoney McFried said:
We got trouble guys. I transferred her out of her old soil because it appeared she was getting nute burn.Her leaves are yellowing from the bottom up, and dying.I can't decide whether she needs a flush or more N. Take a look and tell me what you think.
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how is she doin :(
 
NewGrowth

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Stoney McFried said:
We got trouble guys. I transferred her out of her old soil because it appeared she was getting nute burn.Her leaves are yellowing from the bottom up, and dying.I can't decide whether she needs a flush or more N. Take a look and tell me what you think.
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Looks like wet feet let her dry out a few days
 
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