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RandomKindness

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from my favorite mary book, R.C. Clarke's Marijuana Botany

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Moon Cycles
 Since ancient times man has observed the effect of the moon on living organisms, especially his crops. Planting and harvest dates based on moon cycles are still found in the Old Farmer’s Almanac. The moon takes 28 to 29 days to completely orbit the earth. This cycle is divided into four one-week phases. It starts as the new moon waxes (begins to enlarge) for a week until the quarter moon and another week until the moon is full. Then the waning (shrinking) cycle begins and the moon passes back for two weeks through another quarter to reach the beginning of the cycle with a new moon. Most cultivators agree that the best time for planting is on the waxing moon, and the best time to harvest is on the waning moon. Exact new moons, full moons, and quarter moons are avoided as these are times of interplanetary stress. Planting, germinating, grafting, and layering are most favored during phases 1 and 2. The best time is a few days before the full moon. Phases 3 and 4 are most beneficial for harvesting and pruning.
Root growth seems accelerated at the time of the new moon, possibly as a response to increased gravitational pull from the alignment of sun and moon. It also seems that floral cluster formation is slowed by the full moon. Strong, full moonlight is on the borderline of being enough light to cease floral induction entirely. Although this never happens, if a plant is just about to begin floral growth, it may be delayed a week by a few nights of bright moonlight.
Conversely, plants begin floral growth during the dark nights of the new moon. More research is needed to explain the mysterious effects of moon cycles on Cannabis


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Dr. Greenhorn

Dr. Greenhorn

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RandomKindness said:
from my favorite mary book, R.C. Clarke's Marijuana Botany

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Moon Cycles
Since ancient times man has observed the effect of the moon on living organisms, especially his crops. Planting and harvest dates based on moon cycles are still found in the Old Farmer’s Almanac. The moon takes 28 to 29 days to completely orbit the earth. This cycle is divided into four one-week phases. It starts as the new moon waxes (begins to enlarge) for a week until the quarter moon and another week until the moon is full. Then the waning (shrinking) cycle begins and the moon passes back for two weeks through another quarter to reach the beginning of the cycle with a new moon. Most cultivators agree that the best time for planting is on the waxing moon, and the best time to harvest is on the waning moon. Exact new moons, full moons, and quarter moons are avoided as these are times of interplanetary stress. Planting, germinating, grafting, and layering are most favored during phases 1 and 2. The best time is a few days before the full moon. Phases 3 and 4 are most beneficial for harvesting and pruning.
Root growth seems accelerated at the time of the new moon, possibly as a response to increased gravitational pull from the alignment of sun and moon. It also seems that floral cluster formation is slowed by the full moon. Strong, full moonlight is on the borderline of being enough light to cease floral induction entirely. Although this never happens, if a plant is just about to begin floral growth, it may be delayed a week by a few nights of bright moonlight.
Conversely, plants begin floral growth during the dark nights of the new moon. More research is needed to explain the mysterious effects of moon cycles on Cannabis


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:clap::clap::clap::clap:you always seem to amaze me.........
 
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Puna Bud

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NySurf said:
I think thats why they call it retail. Thats the general idea of it. You open a shop, pay rent, employees, benefits, and taxes and you get your stuff from a supplier for X amount. Add some more to the price and sell for Y amount. That equals Z. Z= profit. You are local. Shop local. If you really cant afford and you want to order online knock yourself out. Just dont get mad when your plants are having a problem and theres noone there to talk to cuz its 9pm where you ordered from. Some people who prefer not to order online and like to pay in cash prefer the added security of having no paper trail. PLUS I have been to Kahala hydro once (This Friday actually) and it is a valuable resource for knowledge and you can probably get discounts if you asked. The girl Carmie is super cool.
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I started to write a big long answer to your post NySurf, but it just wasn't worth my effort. I say only this. Some businesses shouldn't be in business for profit, and supply stores for growers is one of them in my opinion. You must be employed there huh? I mean how could this little over priced hole in the wall be a wealth of knowledge? But hey, they been in business there for some time,right? Oahu is loaded with closet growers, a small hydro shop could be useful for people who are afraid to order on the internet,right? Dude, what I'm saying is if you're buying from them your grow op must be small. Nobody worth their weight would pay their prices for a large op! There are just to many online stores to order supplies from at half the price. It's got nothing to do with buying local! It all about being AKAMAI!!!!
 
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Puna Bud

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Dr. Greenhorn said:
howzit ` heard from you in awhile..what you got going this season??
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wassup brah! I've been rather busy these past several weeks trying to get my indoor grow room to run smoothly.
Went to the neck with online seeds this long season for both indoor and outdoor. What I'm having complete success with is getting these indoor strains use to the Big Island weather outside!:bigjoint: Tragedy struck early as casualties mounted as I was trying to get grow room to run like "clockwork". Through 'trial & error', many seedling & young plants took a beating. But here is my seed line up for this summer.

1.)White Widow
2.)Purple Widow
3.)White Rhino
4.)Super Silver Haze
5.)Blueberry
6.)Great White Shark
7.) Cheese
8.)Trainwreck
9.)Blue Misty
10.)Holland's Hope
11.)Northern Lights
12.)Mazar-I-Sharif
13.)Papaya
14.)Blackberry
15.)Ak-48
16.)Local Web
17.)Big Bud
18.)Bubble Gum

My partner just successfully crossed our Blueberry male with 0ne of our Swazi females!!! It's funny, almost all of these strain have seen the inside of my grow room. But the majority of them are enjoying life beyond the grow room these days. Or at the very least inside/outside combo situation....daily!

I went out and bought me a brand new Honda generator to power up my rooms too! My next investment with be to buy either a squirrel cage fan, or a inline can fan. I'm just not sure which one my grow room would benefit more from?

How's your long season looking?
 
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Puna Bud

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NySurf said:
T-5s are $229 there. If you gave the local guy (girl) a chance you woulda had em already most likely. But there is one for $299 as well. Bulbs included. I didnt mean to be rough on him. Ive read some of his other posts and I can tell hes a cool dude. Its just, Im not even from here and I feel like I HAVE to buy local stuff. The economy and everything else here is so criticial to even just a few purchases. Food mostly. But I wont have a board shipped from Al Merrick or anything either. I go local shapers.. Even when I was in NY I tried to spend my $$ with local shapers. Were in a very fragile place. People born, raised here or even looking to stay indefinitely shoud be spearheading these things. Dont leave it up to some dick italian kid from the Bronx..
I feel you looking for local deals on the lights as far as like home depot etc.. too. I was thinking the same thing. I may just hold off until I have enough $$ to spend it at stores owned by real people. Not shareholders. But maybe I wouldnt judge anyone who did different than me. Just raising awareness that there are reasons things are more expensive at certain places, and reasons why we should patronize them.. I do hope everyone has a safe and healthy grow. And a good easter. Im off to eat.
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dude, check this out. No one in that shop is local. Plus you gotta be a fool to drop your hard earned money with them when you can buy the same product at half the price online. Where is the logic with buying from Kahala. They don't care about the local grow community, otherwise their prices would reflect it. I'm begining to think you work there!
 
doctorD

doctorD

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Great info here as always. That Moon stuff is very interesting. I havent looked into before but I have heard that farmers have long been using the moon as a guide for planting but the part about the full moon or no moon changing flowering times is so obvious that I would have never thought of it. Thanks again.
 
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RandomKindness

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alohas puna, great post and great strains, looks like you are having a great time!

heres the strains which i currently have seed-stock for and have ran recently or are going to

1) Sensi Seeds Hash Plant
2) Pacific Air F3's
3) Spyder Woman(poha berry X hawaiian webbed indica)
4) Lemon Aire
5) Lehua
6) Dman's Citrus Dew(of spice brothers fame)
7) Strawberry Bubblicous
8) Bubba Kush
9) Blue Hen(blueberry x super silver haze)
10) Sour Diesel IBL
11) Tom Hills Deep Chunk(F1's!!)
12) Nirvana's white rhino > currently being bred on the big island by a commercial grower with 25+ years experience so we can supply med patients with free seeds
13) Nirvana's aurora indica > currently being bred on the big island by a commercial grower with 25+ years experience so we can supply med patients with free seeds
14) Nirvana's Northern Lights > currently being bred on the big island by a commercial grower with 25+ years experience so we can supply med patients with free seeds
15) Nirvana's Papaya > currently being bred on the big island by a commercial grower with 25+ years experience so we can supply med patients with free seeds
16) Nirvana's AK48 > currently being bred on the big island by a commercial grower with 25+ years experience so we can supply med patients with free seeds
17) Princess Diesel X Cindarella99
18) Princess Diesel X Very Berry SurpriseXbubblegum
19) Princess Diesel X blueberryXskunk
20) Princess Diesel X P-91
21) Princess Diesel X Chronic
22) Princess Diesel X Trainwreck
23) Princess Diesel X Sweet Tooth #3
24) Princess Diesel X Princess Diesel(F2)
25) Princess Diesel X Afghan Bullrider
26) Princess Diesel X Jedi
27) Princess Diesel X Ak-47
28) Princess Diesel X Dynamite

The princess diesel project was given to me by a friend whose Princess Diesel male accidentally pollenated his entire mother room... he could either discard the seeds or play johnny appleseed - im glad he chose to share

i decided last season to destroy my mothers or flower them out - and start my entire breeding project over from scratch; this time having 100% documentation

if anyone has clones they wish to share, i'll gladly give them a home with some love :)

my immediate goal is to grow the right strain for the right pain, and collecting mother plants so i can constantly be supplying medical patients with clones FOR FREE !

anyone down?? lets talk story on sunday!
 
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NySurf

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I don't work at all my man. Haven't in a loooooong time. I dont give two fucks where you buy what you buy. Order it online. Im a cheap fuck too. I'm just raising a point. we CAN let it drop too though ya know. I wasn't all that hardcore about it in the first place. There are some people who live in places where there is no local hydro shop. It's good to have is all im saying. Certain things I wouldn't want sent to my house. OR a friends. But thats just me. $.02

Let's be real about it too though. If you don't work and you got a car for town and a truck for the country and both are kinda new, you can spend a little extra for the local stores. I know cool people who sell and I know cool people who give it away. I don't give 2 shits what you do. If that extra $$ you save online is going in your belly or your kids belly then pinch them fuckin pennies. But if you got dough.. you COULD spend that shit here. That's all I was really saying.
 
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RandomKindness

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NySurf said:
I don't work at all my man. Haven't in a loooooong time. I dont give two fucks where you buy what you buy. Order it online. Im a cheap fuck too. I'm just raising a point. we CAN let it drop too though ya know. I wasn't all that hardcore about it in the first place. There are some people who live in places where there is no local hydro shop. It's good to have is all im saying. Certain things I wouldn't want sent to my house. OR a friends. But thats just me. $.02

Let's be real about it too though. If you don't work and you got a car for town and a truck for the country and both are kinda new, you can spend a little extra for the local stores. I know cool people who sell and I know cool people who give it away. I don't give 2 shits what you do. If that extra $$ you save online is going in your belly or your kids belly then pinch them fuckin pennies. But if you got dough.. you COULD spend that shit here. That's all I was really saying.
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true and very respectable... to each their own :weed:

lets all keep the aloha spirit goin in this thread

alohas!
 
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