Anyone tried ultrasonic fogger-type aeroponics?

[Major Tom]

Oh, and yeah Tom, to answer your question, as for the Nutramist systems, that's where I actually got the idea of making a hybrid system like the one I have (most of) the parts for now. In my other thread on oxygen enhancement in the root chamber (https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/182929-injecting-0xygen-aeroponics-root-chamber.html) the pic I posted was actually from their site. It would be really nice to have one of their systems, since all the bugs have already been tested out of their earlier prototypes (unlike mine will be, though I hope I don't run into any serious ones, and don't think I will), but I priced one at a dealer in Montreal Quebec (I live in Canada), which was the closest one I could find, and it was like $999 + tax and shipping or something really close to that. And I suspect the shipping cost for something that big crossing the roughly like 730km (450miles) would drop your jaw, you know what I mean?

But, if you have any mechanical ability, and some ingenuity, I think prebuilt systems are kind of a waste of money. I got the fogger unit I have - a six-head with adjustable output (I think), 6 replacement discs and a float for like $125. I paid like $15 for a big reservoir for flood and drain, and maybe $8 for the smaller one for the fogger. The 2" hose cost me less than $10, the 12v muffin fan to push air from the fog reservoir into the root chamber was like 12$ and the 2-12v adaptor for it was $20. The table was $100, the cover (precut for 5" pots) was $50. The pump for flood and drain was like $150, and the mushroom valve and tubing came to maybe another $12. I'll have to spend a few bucks on 2x4 to build a stand for my table, say $8, since I don't have one designed to fit on top of the reservoir like the Nutramist one, and of course there's the time to assemble it all. BUT...if you add that all up, it comes to $510. With tax and shipping on the unit from Nutramist added on, I'd be looking at probably 12-1,300 bucks for essentially the same system. And I'd still have to buy net pots, neoprene discs for covers, a light & ballast, bulb, hood, ducting, a ventilation fan and one for airflow in the room, a carbon filter, probably a dehumidifier and an air conditioner, poly & mylar, an aero cloner (or the parts to build one), timers for the pump, light, and fogger, and probably 10 more things I'm not thinking of right off the top of my head. That extra $7-800 I would have spent on the Nutramist system would cover a fair amount of that stuff, you know what I mean? The convenience of it would be nice, and if I was selling pot wide open and making a fair amount of money, I'd probably go that route, but I'm not selling pot wide open, and I certainly wouldn't use the phrase 'hand over fist' to describe how much money I make. It all comes down to economics I think, really. If you can afford it, go for it. If money is more of an issue, doing it yourself makes more sense.

I'll get back to you on this, bed right now

Thanks

 

[luielugatz]

question......so if i bought one of these little fogger lets say i would get a small rubbermaid bin made some holes in for neoprene....then filled the bottom with water and submerged the fogger itself in the water. turn it on and it would make fog being submerged. then the fog comming from the rez would make roots on clones or if i had rooted plants i would put them in net pots and the fog would give me crazy roots like these pics posted????

 

[FilthyFletch]

Its known as fogponics. The big systems like the ultramist work great and the smaller store foggers work great for cloning as I sell fooger clone units and have used them for few years. The issue you run into using the store foggers is nutrient salt build up and the ceramic disc clogging so those dont work as well for full grows. The bigger industrial kind with pumps like the aquamist works very well though

 

[jerkin247]

yea i was doing research on this too. 600$ for 16 site nutramist. ive heard good things about these. i might drop the cake and let you know how it is.

 

[Major Tom]

Its known as fogponics. The big systems like the ultramist work great and the smaller store foggers work great for cloning as I sell fooger clone units and have used them for few years. The issue you run into using the store foggers is nutrient salt build up and the ceramic disc clogging so those dont work as well for full grows. The bigger industrial kind with pumps like the aquamist works very well though

Self promoting now?

 

[UserFriendly]

Those commercial systems are way over-priced (Nutramist). There''s a guy over on IC building rigs way bigger than that for a lot less money.

 

[Major Tom]

Those commercial systems are way over-priced (Nutramist). There''s a guy over on IC building rigs way bigger than that for a lot less money.

Not everyone want's a WAY BIGGER rig and the beauty of the Nutrmist units is there COMPLETE and there sells reflect the convenance people want.
I have some DIY plans I paid for off ebay and may go the right too.

 

[UserFriendly]

Not everyone want's a WAY BIGGER rig and the beauty of the Nutrmist units is there COMPLETE and there sells reflect the convenance people want.
I have some DIY plans I paid for off ebay and may go the right too.

Oops! Did I say bigger?... cuz I meant bigger and better.

 

[Major Tom]

Oops! Did I say bigger?... cuz I meant bigger and better.

What fucking ever

 

[FilthyFletch]

Nope major been self promoting since I joined in 2007. I share my designs in how toos and custome build for those who cant or dont want to so works fine for all

 

[UserFriendly]

Nope major been self promoting since I joined in 2007. I share my designs in how toos and custome build for those who cant or dont want to so works fine for all

..... I am probably going to sell the plans with step by step ,parts list and photos if anyone would be interested.In pdf form for direct download electronically.Anyways heres the basic look..

heheheheee..... that's still funny.

 

[FilthyFletch]

like I said I been promoting since day 1 lol

 

[Growpro420]

I purchased 2 now...a 3 head and a 1 head. I put the 3 head in my home made cloner from a 5 gallon bucket. Also use a 400 gph pump and sprayers to work in combo. I leave a hole or 2 open in my cloner and the fog pushes thru the hole and fills the plant with mist. I am very happy I don't have to worry about spraying for humidity! My temp in my cloner(5 gal remember) is 84-85 deg. Perfect for a cloner.

 

[FilthyFletch]

work great for cloning no so much for full grows though since any nutes are very light for cloning no real build ups

 

[sheerwaste11]

Filthy Fletch ----Whats the basic ideas behind your systems and how much you buiild and sell for?

 

[village idiot]

So I have had mine in a cloner for three weeks and have seen a lot of anguish but it is my firts attempt at a hydro system. My box is a tote that is about 3ftx1ftx1ft i use a 66gph pump with black poly hose (1/2in) and a bunch of tiny holes in it for spray, an aquarium arrator and a single node fogger that i found in a local pet store for 10 BONES. (yes i said to bones for my fogger they had nine so i bought nine.)

First off I put clones in using neoprene discs, no medium and use the box itself as the reservoir. I run 1/4 strength nuts and change the water every week doubling my nuts untill i am at full strength. I run the pump arrator and fogger 24/7.

My plants did well for two hours untill my brother put 2 t5's and 2 t8's 4fters like 4in from the clones, I brought them back from their near death and had them going okay. Some saw root growth some saw less all grew roots but at no amazing rate. The pump was left off for 12 hrs and I lost half of my stock. the only ones that seemd to be allright were the ones with bigg roots.

Note that I also haven't checked water temp and I know that the plants had to comeback from two huge obsticles from burning to no water maybe I am missing something but the system seems to me to be giving about the same production as just a normal aeroponic system. Lame

 

[sguardians2]

I'm running an aeroponic/SWC/fogger system with good results so far. Using a 45 gallon reservoir with lid, a single head fogger, with 6 gallons of water and two 12 inch air stones, running 24/7. The roots are pure white and layer the entire bottom of the reservoir. The only problem I've had is the aeroponic pump will suck in a piece of root once in a while and clog up a sprayer. The fog nebulizes the nutrient salts and distrubutes them throughout the entire reservior and when any fog escapes the reservoir you can see the salts on the area touched by the fog after it evaporates. plant growth is much faster than in DWC, and the root system stays disease free and algae free, with no signs of root rot, of course I treat my solution with ozone once in a while to kill any bad bacteria that may present itself. So you might say that running a fogging unit with a little ozone introduced to the system once in a while is a good way to achieve a sterile system. I always had to add beneficial bacteria to my DWC sytems to keep them from root rot and the brown algae slime. With foggers this does not seem to be a problem. Many companies are using foggers to disinfect entire buildings, so its sterilizing properties are well documented.

I tried to order the growfogbox, but the company seems to be defunct so I built my own, and it works great!

 

[sguardians2]

And by the way, you must reduce the amount of nutrients you use as the nutrient uptake is much more efficient in this system and you will get nutrient burn if you use the normal measurement of nutrients.

Also, you may need to feed less often, and change the solution out less often. I also noticed that the ph remains extremely stable in this unit.

 

[Ghettoman]

just started my fog grow, got a 3 head and a whole lot of fun

 

[PetFlora]

I tried fog but the obstacles were too difficult to overcome. On top of it typical pond foggers cannot handle the ppms needed to grow plants to harvest. It was a stepping stone to transitioning to HPA, which is far easier to implement. hth