I Hate my Pharmisist!!

[hemlockstones]

this is bullshit. you people just want your pills. xanax and methadone have no good uses except to be abused. i have never met anyone who actually medicated themselves with the correct dosage. if you want to cure your insomnia, try and fucking sleep. exercise so you get tired! the human body isnt dumb enough to deprive itself of what it needs. only you are. wait.. where are we.. oh! a marijuana forum. last time i checked, marijuana was the top medicine for curing insomnia! bake some fucking brownies or a cheesecake and actaully help yourself out rather than just eating pills until you cant move. and for the record, doctors dont always know what they are talking about. i have been to so many quacks over the years that i dont even go unless im in so much pain i cant stand it.

i love this "Drs dont know what they are talking about" listen to this guy.. hes QUALIFIED hahahah if you have insomnia.. just try to sleep!? omg... you need to write a book! and then shove it firmly up ur ass sideways


and you dont know ANYONE that uses medication correctly? really?

 

[shepj]

i love this "Drs dont know what they are talking about" listen to this guy.. hes QUALIFIED hahahah if you have insomnia.. just try to sleep!? omg... you need to write a book! and then shove it firmly up ur ass sideways


and you dont know ANYONE that uses medication correctly? really?

a lot of times the doctors that people see do not know (or just don't give a fuck, you choose) about your health and will prescribe you shit that is totally unnecessary.

He didn't say just try to sleep (you're pulling shit out of context to make it fit your writeup, are you a journalist?).

He said:
"if you want to cure your insomnia, try and fucking sleep. exercise so you get tired!"
Which is a valid point. If you can tire yourself out by doing some physical workouts or calm yourself enough by relaxing, you'll probably be able to drift off into sleep (granted it may take a little while to get proficient at).

He also didn't say that he doesn't know anyone who uses medication correctly. I would think that after having a rank of "420 Time" on here, that you'd know how to read a simple post and make a decent reply. Jesus, after this reply you made, they should revoke your rank to "Stranger".

What he said:
xanax and methadone have no good uses except to be abused. i have never met anyone who actually medicated themselves with the correct dosage.

So I will put it in layman's terms for you, he is saying anyone who has self medicated using alprazolam or dolophine have not used correct dosages and are simply abusing but claiming that they are using it for medication.

Is that better for you?

 

[hemlockstones]

have never met anyone who actually medicated themselves with the correct dosage.

"medicated themselves with the correct dosage" is how you use medication correcty?
and just because this guy hangs out with a bunch of junkies who cant use medication correctly doesnt mean 100% of the people who get these prescriptions abuse them...

and yes his advice was ... "try to sleep."
thats idiotic.... insomniacs have trouble sleeping, so his advice is... try harder?

and yea there are Drs who will hand shit out.. and THERE ARE Drs who WILL not hand out shit when its needed because they think it might be abused...
they will give out several "newer" non narcotic meds that dont do a damn thing, these Drs say "take this for 6 months, if it doesnt work come back"
you come back, they give you twice as much and tell you to take it twice as often. still doesnt do anything. when all along.. a year ago you should of just gotten prescribed something that would of actually worked.

yes for every Dr that hands meds out to junkies there are 10 that are overly caucious , and pharmacist liek this that make it even worse


"he is saying anyone who has self medicated using alprazolam or dolophine have not used correct dosages and are simply abusing but claiming that they are using it for medication."

thats another ignorant blanket stament for him to make... and thats what i was calling him out on.....
there is no way for him to know that

 

[shepj]

have never met anyone who actually medicated themselves with the correct dosage.

"medicated themselves with the correct dosage" is how you use medication correcty?
and just because this guy hangs out with a bunch of junkies who cant use medication correctly doesnt mean 100% of the people who get these prescriptions abuse them...

and yes his advice was ... "try to sleep."
thats idiotic.... insomniacs have trouble sleeping, so his advice is... try harder?

and yea there are Drs who will hand shit out.. and THERE ARE Drs who WILL not hand out shit when its needed because they think it might be abused...
they will give out several "newer" non narcotic meds that dont do a damn thing, these Drs say "take this for 6 months, if it doesnt work come back"
you come back, they give you twice as much and tell you to take it twice as often. still doesnt do anything. when all along.. a year ago you should of just gotten prescribed something that would of actually worked.

yes for every Dr that hands meds out to junkies there are 10 that are overly caucious , and pharmacist liek this that make it even worse


"he is saying anyone who has self medicated using alprazolam or dolophine have not used correct dosages and are simply abusing but claiming that they are using it for medication."

thats another ignorant blanket stament for him to make... and thats what i was calling him out on.....
there is no way for him to know that

There we go. If you had come out with a responce like this one for your first one, I wouldn't have been busting your balls. I agree with you though, there will be educated people who actually self-medicate, and then there will be junkies who claim they do.. it's all the responsibility of the person doing it.

When I called you out on "trying to sleep" for people with insomnia, I didn't mean simply, sit in bed and try to sleep.. a lot of people with insomnia (that I know) don't try to find other methods of making themselves tired (I have had insomnia since I was about 14 along with daily migraines and have given up on the 'try to sleep' method)... but I still think that for a majority of people, a good workout right before bed could definitely assist them far beyond some of the currently prescribed pharmaceuticals.

+rep for a good response here

 

[hemlockstones]

There we go. If you had come out with a responce like this one for your first one, I wouldn't have been busting your balls. I agree with you though, there will be educated people who actually self-medicate, and then there will be junkies who claim they do.. it's all the responsibility of the person doing it.

When I called you out on "trying to sleep" for people with insomnia, I didn't mean simply, sit in bed and try to sleep.. a lot of people with insomnia (that I know) don't try to find other methods of making themselves tired (I have had insomnia since I was about 14 along with daily migraines and have given up on the 'try to sleep' method)... but I still think that for a majority of people, a good workout right before bed could definitely assist them far beyond some of the currently prescribed pharmaceuticals.

+rep for a good response here

yea i was a little harsh in my first response, its just the mentality of "everyone who needs this is a junkie" that kind of gets to me.
not going to tell any sad stories but iv known 2 people who NEEDED methadone to actually function in the later stages of cancer right before they died.
not junkies, not their fault... its just the strongest shit, and thats what it took
GRANTED every person i have known that has overdosed and died on prescriptions were FROM METHADONE... no joke (and none were their own prescription)

as for the insomnia, im the same way, i remember not being able to sleep when i was a kid and playing with legos all night... and in college (since i lived next to the 24hr gym) i would work out at all hours of the night to try to get tired... worked sometimes. but usually it takes more than just physical fatigue.

but i agree with you, people should try more non noarcotic things to help them sleep before resorting to that...lunesta and ambein make you go crazy...
its not a "sleeping pill" and i think people are under the wrong impression when asking for it that it will make you pass out

 

[repvip]

Pharmacists don't get as much training as doctors, true..

They still get a doctorate degree... and less than 1% of the population has one of those...

 

[jahtrip]

dont trust babylons way!!!
Smoke herb
dont bother with any thing else!!
peace !!!

 

[nwnignogs]

There is tons of remedies for Insomnia besides ambien opiates benzos. Try taking a really warm bath, sit in a hot tub/sauna, smoke weed (although personally bud keeps e up for a few hours after smoking then i crash out hard cuz my eyes get uber scratchy), many teas also have sedative properties. It seems though most of the non-narcotic isomnia remidies are all related to heat. So try a really warm blanket too. Have sex. If you dont got a Girlfriend try redtube.com lolz. Hope I could help a little.

Chris

 

[greenpeace31]

one way or another we are all junkies!! drugs,foods,sex and so on!!do what makes YOU happy!! not what others want you to do!! the guy thats says you dont need meds i am sure has some bad trates about him self that we dont know about!! we all do!!

 

[lind2388]

Man, Every Time i get a refill on my script this Douch Bag gives me dirty looks He's always complaining about how i dont follow what the script says and that i "Eat my pills like Candy"?? FUCK THIS ASS HOLEDoes he suffer from chronic insomnia?? Its NONE of his bizz!! Btw i DO NOT abuse my meds! This guy must be like in his 70's and he gives me shit every time i come through to get my script filled.. Do Your Job and SHUT Your Mouth!If my Doc wants me to take a certain dose who is this ass hole to contradict my doc?? Pharmicist dont go through NEARLY as much training as legitmate MD's do! I mean he seems cool at first,but then hes all like, " U just got this filled 2 weeks ago, what r u doing with this stuff?" Man, my insurance only COVERS 2 WEEKS WORTH U ASS NUTS! And the other pharmisist always looks straight OUT 2 Lunch when i come by. I mean he looks legitmatly HigH when ever i go there, Eyes r sunken in and Huge dark circles around his eyes. Obvious Opiate addict... Fuck this shit, im switching Pharmicies!!

I'm a pharmacy tech. You honestly don't know what your talking about. Pharmacists go through about twice as much training as doctors when it comes to medications, their proper usage, and possible complications. His ass is on the line if your abusing your medication and he fails to follow procedure. The pharmacists I work with make daily calls to doctors regarding patients dosages and specific medications and changes are made all of the time at the pharmacists request. The pharmacist is also responsible for your safety, not to the degree of the prescribing M.D., but he certainly has a professional responsibility. I have some real old hard ass pharmacists and they rarely will say anything negative to a customer unless they feel it is absolutely necessary.

 

[aladdin2685]

yeah dog i used to get this female asian chick every 2 weeks when i pick up my meds she started to put her 2 cents about my pain medication. i told her to shut her trap! she dont know me my history and i dont think you want a low suit for breech of privacy act. just because i take over 350 10mg vicoden everysix weeks does not meen she can open her trap about patient privacy rights.

 

[lind2388]

yeah dog i used to get this female asian chick every 2 weeks when i pick up my meds she started to put her 2 cents about my pain medication. i told her to shut her trap! she dont know me my history and i dont think you want a low suit for breech of privacy act. just because i take over 350 10mg vicoden everysix weeks does not meen she can open her trap about patient privacy rights.

Lmao...I'm speechless. The "breach of privacy act" you speak of is simply a confidentiality agreement between you and the pharmacist along with the supporting staff. It is THEIR JOB to inform you about the medications you are taking and register their possible concerns. They are explaining shit to you so they avoid potential "low suits" from dumb people like you. I don't know a doctor on the face of the planet that would prescribe over 8 10mg Hydrocodone bitartrate 1000mg acetaminophen pills a day considering your liver would shut down in a matter of weeks.

edit: lol on second thought you must be joking

 

[shepj]

hahah well stated, lind2388.

 

[Prot3us1]

I dunno...lets have a think about this...our body works on chemicals and chemical receptors...sometimes for a number of reasons those chemicals, or their receptors don't do what they are supposed to do..hence why we HAVE prescription drugs...chances are if this guy decides to go work out all that will happen is he will be physically exhausted, and still not tired..so he will feel even worse.

You dont know him, his circumstances or his docs reasons for prescribing him the drugs, so don't give advice. too many people on forums give out medical advice and people actually listen to the forum advice over their doctors...(who do you trust with your life more...your doc or the dude you know as "h1gh-4s-4-k1t3") your doctor knows what hes doing. Take the meds. The pharmacist is probably just trying to keep you honest, I know it comes across as rude and stuff to you, but its probably just him trying to do a good deed ya know? even if you ARE legtimate (and you are the only one who knows if you are)..theres probably 10 kids out there that are self medicating and drugging up for every one thats honest.

All in all, I think you are doing the right thing by following your doctors prescritions, and it sucks that you dont feel comfortable getting your mediation..have you thought about buying online from a proper reputable pharmacy...delivered to your door for ya might even save some money.

Prot

PS - Im not telling you to do anything, except follow your docs instructions. YES some docs are loose with the prescription pad...but unless you know the orig poster, ad his doc you cant make that call..telling this guy to stop taking medication is sooo stupid. And if it was as easy as closing your eyes and counting sheep there would be no need for sleeping pills. Just sucks how addictive they are...I DO however support self medicating on THC, so *takes a hit from his pyrex bubbler" pass this mofo around and lets all have a good time..then pass out, and wake up feeling rested!

 

[joker152]

that sucks man, the pills they give you for bad insomnia are something you will actually feel self conscious about too, sadly enough most of them are diluted anti-psychotics and other kinds of drugs, the one i used to be on werent meant for sleep either it was just a side effect of the pill, that was actually the only one i was put on that worked, then i switched pharmacies because i moved and the only cvs in this town closes at like 5 and shit, started goin to walgreens and it turned out the lady who was always workin was a regular at the restaurant i worked at at the time and then she started puttin all this stuff with my perscription about how bad it is to abuse anti-depressants and shit, you really got to love it when people dont know whats goin on, generally what you speculate is ten times worst than the truth

 

[shepj]

Prot3us1, I get what you're saying.. but you have to think.

Some of the people on here are prolly emt's, some are prolly nurses, some surgeons, some doctors, or physicians assistants, I'm sure we have some pharmacists, and I'm sure we have some people who just know their goddamned modern medicine...

Now, on your behalf, there are a lot of people who don't know shit about modern medicine in here and think they do and give bullshit advice.

Let's hope that if this guy takes advice on medication that he is prescribed, he can tell who is who.

 

[Prot3us1]

Prot3us1, I get what you're saying.. but you have to think.

Some of the people on here are prolly emt's, some are prolly nurses, some surgeons, some doctors, or physicians assistants, I'm sure we have some pharmacists, and I'm sure we have some people who just know their goddamned modern medicine...

Now, on your behalf, there are a lot of people who don't know shit about modern medicine in here and think they do and give bullshit advice.

Let's hope that if this guy takes advice on medication that he is prescribed, he can tell who is who.

*passes shepj the bubbler* your up.

emt's - I wonder how many of them dose up on the pethidine pens...I had one once..when i dislocated my shoulder...was my first ever experience being "high"..good times...that being said, ive only ever had 2 different drugs (read: drugs that get you high).
Peth that one time, and weed for the recurrent pain as a result of having my shoulder out of its socket for about 8.5 hours, and many many attempts by the docs to relocate it under full anaesthesia.

I dont mind though, its what got me into MJ...I can get scripts for heavy pain killers, but the weed literally akes me forget about the pain...the RX based alternative i still feel the pain, and i feel gnerally crap after taking it.

As far as my insomnia, I use it o my advantag, playing video games and growing my garden...the headaches and nausea, as well as fatigue and geeral lack of conentration actually go away wen i smoke weed too..its almost like whatever my body gets from sleeping it also gets from weed...cannabis is an amazing plant.

prot

 

[bicycle racer]

been there done that with pills and what i thought i needed. anything drug that a scrip is required for wont help your insomnia or general problems in the long run they will only make the problem worse work on diet and physical activity i use to think i had insomnia then i found out i was just lazy and did not fatigue my body and mind as it needs. my brother has 'insomnia' but he just eats terribly and is lazy physically nothing more nothing less. people love excuses and easy solutions.

 

[pinkus]

tell the pharm "thanks, you've told me this before and please don't inform me again or I'll take this to the store manager." Then he has done his job, you have communicated clearly what you desire. if he does it again, either keep your promise or find another place.

good luck

 

[aladdin2685]

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