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Greyskull

Greyskull

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a friend of mine got the killer senntinel or whatever it is... co2 & atmosphere controller.
dude is hooked and raves to me quite regularly about how it makes everything SO EASY

i have a little CAP atmosphere controller, and I gotta say, they do help you keep things well dialed.

i like your style gypsy
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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Greyskull said:
a friend of mine got the killer senntinel or whatever it is... co2 & atmosphere controller.
dude is hooked and raves to me quite regularly about how it makes everything SO EASY

i have a little CAP atmosphere controller, and I gotta say, they do help you keep things well dialed.

i like your style gypsy
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AHHHH you are talking about the sentinel chhc-1

i own 1 and i own an igs220 as well.


the chhc-1 IS THE SHIT!!!!

omgah i love that thing
 
BCtrippin

BCtrippin

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Hahahhaah, I googled the sentinel, and was loading the youtube vid in another tab....then I scrolled down and the video was right there...lol.

Sorry Im really baked..LOL

:peace:
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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Everything is on thermostats...

But the ability of the op to loose heat does not compare with the weather ability to change...

The houses in Alaska are built with one purpose, to keep the heat in...

So when that happens I have to physically open windows and bring in more fresh air than the op can could manage by it self...

Drastic temperature changes like that create all kinds of problems, if you are not on top of it..

Especially when it drops from +30F to -40F...

If I don't physically change the house's window situation, everything inside will freeze...

A house, unattended for as little as 24 hours can be totally devastated by the cold... pipes freeze and burst.. makes a big and expensive mess...

Not sure I explained it very well, but it is just a pain in the butt...lol...
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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Greyskull said:
thats the one dog!

said its "easy breezy beautiful".
he calls me with the "weather report"

when i get my new op started one of the first things on the list is that controller no doubt
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i love it yo, i want another one for the tent

i got the last one for 500 but, not sure i can get that deal again...lol
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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GypsyBush said:
Everything is on thermostats...

But the ability of the op to loose heat does not compare with the weather ability to change...

The houses in Alaska are built with one purpose, to keep the heat in...

So when that happens I have to physically open windows and bring in more fresh air than the op can could manage by it self...

Drastic temperature changes like that create all kinds of problems, if you are not on top of it..

Especially when it drops from +30F to -40F...

If I don't physically change the house's window situation, everything inside will freeze...

A house, unattended for as little as 24 hours can be totally devastated by the cold... pipes freeze and burst.. makes a big and expensive mess...

Not sure I explained it very well, but it is just a pain in the butt...lol...
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hmmmm something isnt adding up here bro.

if you have your forced intake setup right... and you having it on a thermo stat.... that thing should kick in, granted the nice temps you speak of...
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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GB,

all that opening up windows is for the birds bro, i know you hate it.

got to look at that intake setup in the op....


care to fully elaborate your ventilation setup? from your forced intake, its placement, if you have a filter, what set temps to where your exhaust is, not to mention the cooltube ventilation.

dont forget cfm numbers on all your fans
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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The entire house holds heat...

I am not sure I can explain it any better...

When it is super cold and it warms up, the house's temperature rises in proportion...

The only way to avoid that would be to foresee that even and shut the heater's off before hand...

How can I say it.. it just warms up outside faster than it can cool down inside...

Even when the heaters shut off and the intake kicks in... it's just not fast enough...

Now, I am not saying this happens ALL THE TIME..this is just one of the many EXTREMES we deal with in AK... but it does happen more than once every winter...

Just like when it drops suddenly like that, neither the house nor the op can keep up...

When the wind howls, and cold blows.. shit man.. it gets cold quick...lol...

But on any normal up and down, the thermostats and fans work fine...
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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OK.. here we go...

I have a cardboard box over the window... that is my intake manifold... it has two openings... both are covered by a standard central AC type air filter and window has a bug screen...

On one, I have a 6 duct connected to a 6" 440cfm fan... this fan feeds the air cooling for my 3 air cooled 600s... the exhaust from the lights goes to the attic, and then on to the outside world...

This fan is connected to the same 50 amp timer box my lights are plugged into.. so it runs when the lights are on...

...

The other opening has a 6" duct connected to a thermostatically and speed controlled (to maintain negative pressure) 6" 440 cfm intake fan...

This fan runs at about 3/4 and just dumps fresh air in the op...

...

For the exhaust I have another 6" 440 cfm running full blast through a compatible carbon filter (40lbs, if I am not mistaken)... this fan runs 24/7...

...

I also have a 4" 170 cfm fan drawing air from right next to the 4th 600, which is not air cooled yet... this fan simply grabs some of the heat from the bulb and throws it to the cold corner of the room...

...

I have a standard household oscillating fan, oscillating away 24/7, pointed in a way that it moves air over all of the canopy... ALL the plants twinkle in the breeze...

...

I keep the house warm with lots of birch in the wood stove and indecent amounts of heating fuel (diesel)...

I also have to supplement the op with 2 oil filled type heaters in the hard freeze months of winter.. when shit can get real cold in a hurry...

..

What did I miss?

2x 100 gallon stock tanks for res on the side with the 3 lights...

2x totes for res on the other...

...

Can't really think of anything else..

Oh.. I am about to change my water pump set up a bit... I would like some redundancy..

So far I have run one pump per tray.. individually..

Now ai am goiing to "T" together the trays on the same res and run 2 pumps in line to feed them... like this..

Pump A >>>> Pump B>>>> "T" >>>> trays...

So that if one pump fails, the other will drive the water though it and flood all trays, even if a bit slower...

Does that make sense?
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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GypsyBush said:
Why do you say that?
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im thinking the heat from your lights will heat your space enough, however your cooltubes are removing the heat you could use instead of so many heaters.

however, your conditions are perfect and what i would want for my res. you like have no need for res chillers. lol


i think if you was to DIY one of those icebox things, and you could control your res temps... (res chiller) it would help.... i think so anyway the room would only be 10 degrees higher than res temps
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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LoudBlunts said:
im thinking the heat from your lights will heat your space enough, however your cooltubes are removing the heat you could use instead of so many heaters.
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I make it sound worse than what it is...

It's just winter is sooo fucking looong here...lol...

It's not very often I have to run extra heaters... I pay thousands in heating fuel to make sure of that..lol... well to heat the house anyways...lol...

But because of my light proofing, some days the heat from the house just isn't enough... then come the heaters...

But normally, and especially in the summer, the house is just so fucking tight, that I have trouble getting rid of the heat...

The house is not properly ventilated... I guess that's what it is...lol..

The whole building cannot loose heat fast enough...

So my air cooling actually helps me...

Nothing is efficient where I live...

Just think about this... each gallon of fuel that reaches me has to be barged from the lower 48, then transferred to a smaller barge... then it goes up a river where it gets transferred to smaller and smaller barges, until the barge cannot keep going anymore... then we fly it 200 gallons at a time to where we live...

Believe, practicality and efficiency were left on the side of the road.. 500 miles back..lol...

I just try to make it stable for the girls, and I do believe the air cooling helps...

And not only that, I can let the tops pretty much touch the glass on the big reflectors...

LoudBlunts said:
however, your conditions are perfect and what i would want for my res. you like have no need for res chillers. lol
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I do like having lots of water.. makes it stable... and I don't have to top off between res changes...

pH and PPM stay put pretty darn good, unless I put in some of the FF solubles, which made my pH PLUMMET daily.. I quit that yesterday...lol..

Res is always cool... but I do have COLD ASS WATER to begin with... I mean it HURTS to put your hand under the tap..lol..


LoudBlunts said:
i think if you was to DIY one of those icebox things, and you could control your res temps... (res chiller) it would help.... i think so anyway the room would only be 10 degrees higher than res temps
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I really got to thinking of you and some other people...

Even some of the newbs that are into the DIY thing can benefit....

I really have no use for one until I move out of the freezer..lol.. but I am keeping the idea in the back burner...

I'm sure I'll have a use for it one day...lol..


Sooo...

I was thinking of changing that vent system ..

Since I run the exhaust 24/7... I was thinking I would run 2x 6" exhaust fans with filters running 24/7 through the lights...

Like this...

room air >>> filter >>> hood >>> hood >>> fan>>> attic

Times 2...

I would get another air cooled hood, and do 4 lights in a square pattern...


two rows of lights ..

Dude, i am so high... I am not even sure I am making ANY sens...lol...
 
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doktorgreenthumb420

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thats how i did my ventilation for quite a while ....now i havent been usin my carbon filter ..but i use to in that same type of manner ....worked fine ..
 
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