Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

[andyman]

Temps stay about 76-78. I have a fan by the window AC blowing cool air into the closet(open door), but not directly on the clones. Also a small fan in the closet to circulate the air. 2 26 watt CFL's about 16 In. above clones. Water sprays out of the hole when the cup is out. The cuttings seem to live about a week. PPM 246. No Clonex. Room stays in the mid 70's. Tote is on the wooden floor, no concrete slab. Hope this is enough info. Thanks.

Mine dont seem to like a fan blowing on them. Temps a little high but not to bad, I guess. Do you have any pictures?

 

[Aeroweed]

I am by no means an expert...

I will be after Stinkbud U

I bought clones a couple of weeks ago, already rooted thru the rapid rooter plugs. I put them in the cloner with a fan on them. The ones with the fan most on them (uk cheese) Look FANtastic...

the others look good but not as good as the cheese (which are in middle of the cloner)

Am I supposed to have a fan? or no fan?

The uk cheese seem to love the fan, should I seperate them from the others? Keep the fan off the others... Will they do even better?

Thanks Andy!

 

[havefungodumb]

question for my friend, hes got this meter and hes wondering how to use it, he got it from a friend, theres no cleaning or storeing solution should it have came with it?... >>>

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figured id ask the pros around here lol for a quick reply in this thread ..

later dudes.

 

[Aeroweed]

question for my friend, hes got this meter and hes wondering how to use it, he got it from a friend, theres no cleaning or storeing solution should it have came with it?... >>>

figured id ask the pros around here lol for a quick reply in this thread ..

later dudes.

I think the first question would be, was it stored wet or dry?

My Hanna was shipped with packets of control solution.

 

[NewHiddenGrower]

Basically anything will work. You can veg the plants longer and use less plants or you can stick them into flower early and harvest more plants.

By me going to less plants I'll get more bud per plant but the total harvest will be less. I really don't need as much bud as I harvest now anyway. My patients have all they can smoke right now.

Around here outdoor growers veg for three months and average at least a pound per plant. It's all about veg time!

The plants end up 7-8 feet tall and about 6 ft wide, I shit you not!

But is it a fact that the more room you give your plants the more they can grow/yield ?

If this is not true im going to just keep the system as it is and just triple/4x your system.


Since you harvest 2-3 oz a plant is like 2 pounds, how come you yield avg 2-3 a plant but only yield a pound every 3 weeks? This i do not understand.

 

[repvip]

But is it a fact that the more room you give your plants the more they can grow/yield ?

If this is not true im going to just keep the system as it is and just triple/4x your system.


Since you harvest 2-3 oz a plant is like 2 pounds, how come you yield avg 2-3 a plant but only yield a pound every 3 weeks? This i do not understand.

Obviously, bro

Ever hear the phrase "Don't count your chickens before they hatch?"

If you would have kept up with the thread, you would know... He was only getting a pound at first with 2-1000w lights; now he has 3.

You are totally correct on the space issue. To a point, at least. If you don't veg long enough there's no way those plants will fill in if they are spaced too far apart. There's quite a few factors in play. Veg time, nutes, strain, CO2, temp etc. There's a happy medium... Stink found it. I actually space mine closer together and use more plants, but vegged for shorter period, and it works out quite well. Then again I'm only getting 1-1.5 oz per plant....

 

[NewHiddenGrower]

Obviously, bro

Ever hear the phrase "Don't count your chickens before they hatch?"

If you would have kept up with the thread, you would know... He was only getting a pound at first with 2-1000w lights; now he has 3.

1 1000 watt made 1 oz different on each plant? -.-
no way...

 

[repvip]

1 1000 watt made 1 oz different on each plant? -.-
no way...

He has done other improvements along the way.

CO2 added 4 ozs.

Narrowing down strains to the large producers did the rest...

Don't worry I'm sure Stink will comment and set your mind at eaze

I am continually surprised at the growth rate of this type of system... Check this shit out:
Pic 1: Day 4 vegging
Pic 2: Day 15 vegging

That's only 11 days! With CFL's and an LED haha

 

[txhomegrown]

Mine dont seem to like a fan blowing on them. Temps a little high but not to bad, I guess. Do you have any pictures?

Sorry, no pics. My camera crapped out and I cant get another one right now. I still have some bucks to sink into this system and that comes first.
I seem to remember reading that plants started from seed have to grow a certain amount of time before they are ready to clone. Could that be my problem? I have some plants that I started in dirt right before I found this thread. I planted the seeds about 5 weeks ago.

 

[doktorgreenthumb420]

omg excellent growth rate ....even the rainforest system i got doesnt do em quite that fast and my rainforest is fastest growin system/technique i have .....man im gonna make one of these

 

[LionsRoor]

Since you harvest 2-3 oz a plant is like 2 pounds, how come you yield avg 2-3 a plant but only yield a pound every 3 weeks? This i do not understand.

He got 27 ounces last harvest and expects more on a current batch... so your calcs are in line. I suppose the 2 LB mark is the current bar!?

 

[LionsRoor]

He has done other improvements along the way.

CO2 added 4 ozs.

Narrowing down strains to the large producers did the rest...

Don't worry I'm sure Stink will comment and set your mind at eaze

I am continually surprised at the growth rate of this type of system... Check this shit out:
Pic 1: Day 4 vegging
Pic 2: Day 15 vegging

That's only 11 days! With CFL's and an LED haha

Nice - what a difference a day makes - with the Stink system, that is!

 

[NewHiddenGrower]

Im using stink's system and my 11 day veg is just about the same as your plants

 

[LionsRoor]

Another thing when you used 4 holes per fence post, how was your plants in size compared to the 7 hole per post.
Thank you

After talking with Stink and the Buds, I decided against it and went with 6 holes per site... figuring I could always run 4 of the 6 holes later...

Plant spacing comes down to finding the sweet spot for the strain and the space. While bigger plants yield more, they require more space to do so. When growing in pots indoors, with standard 8' ceilings, I have found 1 sq foot per plant to be the sweet spot and produce the biggest yields for my strain of OG. I veg em to 18 inches and they grow to about 4.5 feet - leaving just enough room below the lights to keep from getting burnt. The plants touch each other but there is still enough room for the secondary colas to develop. Most of the lower branches are removed prior to flowering as they will not receive enough light to produce quality bud, and they take energy to maintain that could be devoted to bud production.

So - in a 4 x 4 tray - I go with 16 plants... I could go with 4 plants in that same area and grow plants about 4 times wider and bushier - and get more yield per plant - but I only have 4 plants - so the overall yield is not increased in this case by going with larger plants, and they take longer to veg... 4 x 4 oz or 16 x 1 oz - is still 16 oz.

Due to plant limits for some MMJ patients, less plants may be a necessity.

 

[NewHiddenGrower]

After talking with Stink and the Buds, I decided against it and went with 6 holes per site... figuring I could always run 4 of the 6 holes later...

Plant spacing comes down to finding the sweet spot for the strain and the space. While bigger plants yield more, they require more space to do so. When growing in pots indoors, with standard 8' ceilings, I have found 1 sq foot per plant to be the sweet spot and produce the biggest yields for my strain of OG. I veg em to 18 inches and they grow to about 4.5 feet - leaving just enough room below the lights to keep from getting burnt. The plants touch each other but there is still enough room for the secondary colas to develop. Most of the lower branches are removed prior to flowering as they will not receive enough light to produce quality bud, and they take energy to maintain that could be devoted to bud production.

So - in a 4 x 4 tray - I go with 16 plants... I could go with 4 plants in that same area and grow plants about 4 times wider and bushier - and get more yield per plant - but I only have 4 plants - so the overall yield is not increased in this case by going with larger plants, and they take longer to veg... 4 x 4 oz or 16 x 1 oz - is still 16 oz.

Due to plant limits for some MMJ patients, less plants may be a necessity.

ok thanks for the information i guess ill stick with the 7 per post. But however have you seen the SoG stickied thread harvest every 2 weeks? They completely skip veg and get 1 pound from 16 plants doing. Any thoughts on the SoG system?

My thoughts is that why would i veg 14 plants to get 1 plant when i can SoG and save 3 weeks of time with 16 plants.

 

[havefungodumb]

I think the first question would be, was it stored wet or dry?

My Hanna was shipped with packets of control solution.

it came to me new, but i guess the boxed was ripped opened so my friend got his solution took?.

is there anything else i can do? or do i need that stuff?..

shit...kiss-ass

 

[beer.me]

it came to me new, but i guess the boxed was ripped opened so my friend got his solution took?.

is there anything else i can do? or do i need that stuff?..

You can download the manual for this meter here ... http://hannainst.com/manuals/manHI_98106.pdf

Now scroll down in the manual to where it says conditioning and you will need the first of two solutions. Storage solution and pH 7.0 buffered solution. The storage solution keeps the tip wet and the pH 7.0 is required for calibration. Both should be available at any Hydro shop or can be found online. One example is here ... http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=653&navid=13

 

[StinkBud]

Since you harvest 2-3 oz a plant is like 2 pounds, how come you yield avg 2-3 a plant but only yield a pound every 3 weeks? This i do not understand.

When I first started I was getting about 12oz per harvest. I've made many changes since the original article was released.

1) CO2 added about 4oz to my harvest.
2) I run Sweet in my formula for the entire grow now, even during veg.
3) I run my Veg formula for the first three weeks of flower. I refill the res with bloom as it needs it.
4) My veg plants are on 24/0 light schedule. This cause the plants to take a little longer to start flowering. They end up bigger in the long run.
5) I've narrowed my quiver down to 4 super strains. All of them are big producers and finish fast.
6) I've shortened my flush to just 1 week with Sweet added. This gives the plants and extra week of growth and they still taste unreal when I harvest.
7) I added an extra 1000W MH light to my 2-1000W HPS lights.
I'm running my CO2 at 2000PPM now and my temps are perfect at 87.
9) I have a CO2 controller for my room. It monitors the CO2 and keeps temps and humidity perfect as well.

All these changes have increased my harvest over the last year.

So what caused the largest gain in my harvest? Easy, genetics! Picking the rights strains is everything. I just couldn't get strains with a lot of Sativa to produce. Now that I'm running mostly Indica strains my harvest has almost doubled.

 

[StinkBud]

sometimes when I take a clone I still have half of a stalk left with 2 nodes or branch starts. I clone that too and its like a toped branch so when it grows its like haveing 2 main branches from the start with one set of roots..

This is what it looks like when it's all grown up...

It's two...two...two plants in one!

 

[StinkBud]

I am glad this subject has come back up. I have built the cloner and veg unit according to specs. except I only did 21 holes in the cloner and 16 in the veg unit. I have the water PH steady at 5.8. My water comes out of the tap at 246 ppm. Cuttings are lit with cfls. I didnt use Clonex because Stink said it was not reallt needed. WHY are my cuttings shriveling up and dying? Is it possible that there is something else in the water that is causing this? If that is true, what the hell have I been making my coffee out of for 3 years? HELP please

Watch the humidity. If the air is dry the plants will dissipate too much water and wilt.

Clones like 60%+ humidity. Sometimes I'll cut off the ends of the big leaves. Those are the leaves that will suck down all the water. The stem can't supply enough water so the cutting wilts.

Can you try a different strain?