Lollipop lollipop, Oh lolli lolli lolli, Lollipop lollipop....

[bam bam]

Does lollipoping affect photosynthesis? During flowering, is photosynthesis not that dominant compared to when the plant is veging?
I dont know much, but I think doing anything that greatly hinders photosynthesis of the plant is not good.

 

[bubblegumwidow]

Looks to me like it's starved for light !

If it's still vegging .. check Uncle Ben's thread on topping and try to get better light ... (just an opinion )

I topped this one 13 days into flowering as of this pic .. it is day 16 (flowering) after 4 1/2 weeks veg -----

nah not starved for light. just the strechiest girl of the bunch. I am growing in a 3x3 area with reflective sheeting. here are 2 pics.1 of corner of growroom and second of a shorter bushier female with a little more pronounced flowering. I rotate them and put the shorter ones on cinder blocks so they are closer to the height of the tall girl to equalize lighting. the tall one was the only one I was considering for lollipop but I guess its too late now

 

[wilsoncr17]

Does lollipoping affect photosynthesis? During flowering, is photosynthesis not that dominant compared to when the plant is veging?

Buds only use the fan leaves at their bud site. So if you don't want tiny whispy buds, you don't need those fan leaves.

A plants potential is a plants potential, and you don't waste potential on small airy buds.

Fact is if a plant can yield 3 oz, given the right conditions it will, but do you want even 5 grams of that being small clippings you'll probably throw in a hash pile?

Probably not.

When you lollipop that energy goes to the tops, it's still there, the roots don't lie sir.

The roots don't lie.

 

[(Butters)]

Any thoughts on lollipopping autoflowering strains. Is this possible/worthwhile? They don't really have much of a veg stage so I'm wondering if lollipopping even works on them. The advantage of this with auto-strains is the ability to pack them in closely together for perpetual harvest grow. Any thoughts/experience?

 

[iloveit]

Any thoughts on lollipopping autoflowering strains. Is this possible/worthwhile? They don't really have much of a veg stage so I'm wondering if lollipopping even works on them. The advantage of this with auto-strains is the ability to pack them in closely together for perpetual harvest grow. Any thoughts/experience?

I have a newb question in regards to your post: What exactly is a auto flowering strain?
Im guessing it begins flowering on its own without the change of th light/night cycle is that correct?

 

[wilsoncr17]

Any thoughts on lollipopping autoflowering strains. Is this possible/worthwhile?

You can still lollipop an auto-flower. It's still a 1st and 3rd week of flowering process, and even if it's auto- you should know when it starts to flower. You still know whats gonna get more light, and what will be shunned from the "sun", so you're good to go.

What exactly is a auto flowering strain? Im guessing it begins flowering on its own without the change of the light/night cycle is that correct?

bingo! You get to keep it on 18/6 and it'll still go boom.

 

[GypsyBush]

Would these be lollipops???

 

[iloveit]

bingo! You get to keep it on 18/6 and it'll still go boom.

Does that mean keeping it in 18/6 through out the flowering period will increase the risk of the auto strain plant turning hermie?

 

[wilsoncr17]

Does that mean keeping it in 18/6 through out the flowering period will increase the risk of the auto strain plant turning hermie?

Not exactly sure on that. I just know they will start flowering either way, and it really is pretty hard to turn a plant hermie.

Many times you will hear myths about how easy a plant will go hermie. Don't reveg, don't let it get too hot, don't over trim your plant, WHATEVER!

Try, anyone I dare you, try and stress your plant into a hermie, it's pretty hard, and if you have a superior strain, it's even harder.

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

I feel the same as you as far as the above statement..I did some brutal shit to alot of my plants. also if growers go 12/12 to sex the plants and when sex is found, up lights to 18/6 to 24/0, is that not stress? why not more growers reporting hermies in those situations????? makes one wonder...

 

[wilsoncr17]

I feel the same as you as far as the above statement..I did some brutal shit to alot of my plants. also if growers go 12/12 to sex the plants and when sex is found, up lights to 18/6 to 24/0, is that not stress? why not more growers reporting hermies in those situations????? makes one wonder...

Quite honestly my first grow I had the poor girl in heats of over 100 for weeks and all it did was make the plant stop growing at 18 inches, but all of the shoots grew to the same height, it ended up having 8 tops, but all the clones yielded like 1/4 the bud of the original as a result of the heat stress, but no hermie.

Ive taken 75 clones from one mother and flowered only two colas, she didn't hermie after losing probably 95% of her size.



sex changes are expensive

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

hey wilson, I like your style..... much respect

 

[iloveit]

Not exactly sure on that. I just know they will start flowering either way, and it really is pretty hard to turn a plant hermie.

Many times you will hear myths about how easy a plant will go hermie. Don't reveg, don't let it get too hot, don't over trim your plant, WHATEVER!

Try, anyone I dare you, try and stress your plant into a hermie, it's pretty hard, and if you have a superior strain, it's even harder.

I would always worry about my plant going hermie until your previous post, thanks for that piece of info.

 

[(Butters)]

Does that mean keeping it in 18/6 through out the flowering period will increase the risk of the auto strain plant turning hermie?

No. The autoflowering strains actually need either 18/6 or 20/4 to be "normal" and good producers. You just keep that light schedule throughout the grow the whole time and they turn out just fine. If you want, you can keep them on that lighting schedule a couple of weeks past when you would normally flower and they will start to produce some pollen sacs that lack an actual male gene. this is one way how feminized seeds are made with auto- strains. Take the pollen from the female that grew a couple of pollen sacs past the harvest date, pollinate a younger female of the same strain, and you get feminized auto- seeds. But in general, the auto strains are tough to turn hermie. I know people who have started them at 18/6 and made the mistake of switching them to 12/12 and they still didn't hermie (just took longer to harvest).

 

[iloveit]

No. The autoflowering strains actually need either 18/6 or 20/4 to be "normal" and good producers. You just keep that light schedule throughout the grow the whole time and they turn out just fine. If you want, you can keep them on that lighting schedule a couple of weeks past when you would normally flower and they will start to produce some pollen sacs that lack an actual male gene. this is one way how feminized seeds are made with auto- strains. Take the pollen from the female that grew a couple of pollen sacs past the harvest date, pollinate a younger female of the same strain, and you get feminized auto- seeds. But in general, the auto strains are tough to turn hermie. I know people who have started them at 18/6 and made the mistake of switching them to 12/12 and they still didn't hermie (just took longer to harvest).

I had no idea!

Is there anything such as auto flowering in nature without human assistance?

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

yes. the ruderalis strains is where the autoflower traits come from...ruderalis is weak on the potency scale though...thats where the crosses come in

 

[Sure Shot]

Cannabis Ruderalis
They grow far North were there is light almost 24/0 all the time.
So they evolved to flower when mature.
Wispy, weak buds though.

 

[pinkus]

Hey Ichi, I'm a lollie popper and I live close by. I do a perpetual harvest set-up organic in soil. Love IT! I've decided I'm not posting anymore pics~ Texas you know.

I thought you aborted because of family shit...you must have a good wife anyway, once you get a good mama or mamas picked out it is great. Only draw back to growing clone crops is shared weaknesses. For example here in texas if you pick a mama that is a spidermite magnet, ur fuct.

I would suggest doing a summer grow from seed and take clones from each, see which ones do best in your situation, then pick mama.

glad you're still here man.

No, this is not a Cordettes fan post.

I have been looking all over the interwebs for a guide or even a good explanation of how to lollipop your plants into flowering. I have seen little bits of info here and there but no single method. Have any of you ever heard of a guide or something?

If you feel the need tell me why you think lollipopping sucks, cool, but you better be able to tell me what and who's instructions you followed or the rules you played by otherwise you are just wasting everyone's time.

 

[pinkus]

oh yeah, once set up you can really crank out the buds. The set-up you showed before was made for lollie popping.

 

[iloveit]

Hey Ichi, I'm a lollie popper and I live close by. I do a perpetual harvest set-up organic in soil. Love IT!

Im planning on doing a soil perpetual grow for my 2nd grow, my only concern is the harvest cycle with soil compared to hydro. What Im asking is if I was to grow the same strain in soil & hydro side by side what would the difference in time scale be?