Heaths Flooded Tube Vertical

Thundercat

Thundercat

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I completely agree 420-4-fun. The same shit happens on any of the Guru threads. I try not to bother any of them with questions unless I REALLY need an answer about somthing, or unless I'm running their system, lol which I'm not.
 
danksmoker77

danksmoker77

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holy snakies that is amazing!!!!!!

I have new inspiration. I see a lot of systems in the gazillion threads I am obsessed with reading and this setup is by far the most efficient productive design I have seen. Screw callin it sea of green this shit is walls of green. Hopefully Heath returns anybody know where heath is??????
 
iloveit

iloveit

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Thanks for uploading the new tease pics to the gallery Heath I assume Black rose should be in circulation soon :wink:
 
iloveit

iloveit

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Demosthenese said:
wow. those teaser pics are amazing.
Im totally inspired to do a stealth cab vert system. I used google sketch to design it, so it's on;y a visual reference, but its relatively accurate. Not to thread jack heath lol, but what do people think?
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Im considering modifying my cab it will probably end up looking like yours but I gotta put it on paper first, "He who fails to plan....plans to fail" :hump: I cant recall who said that.
Be sure to start a grow journal of your op, when will it be up & running?
 
Demosthenese

Demosthenese

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prbly not till the end of the summer. I've been pricing it out and i think it'll be about 1500 once i factor in the cost of a new strain to run in it. The 4 inch pipe is expensive in north america, and the 45 degree bends especially are like 10 bucks + each. I'm looking for a cheaper pipe alternative.
My favorite part about the system is the lack of stress; it's almost impossible for the system to kill the plants. As long as you check it every couple days, even an unoticed broken pump wouldn't kill them outright. i get scared if ive been away from my current aero system for more then 12 hours.
I was wrestling for a while with fitting this type of system inside a cabinet, but i think it will work well. The plants will all be within a foot or so of the light, and they would each have at least 12 inches to grow in. The chimney this layout creates will work well for air circulation and keeping heat down. Having the res in an independant chamber is excellent for both cleaning and res changes and keeping it chilled. Finally, you can fit up too 8 plants in each layer, and with 4-5 layers depending on height of the cabinet you could get upwards of 30-40 plants in this thing. If i can get 30-40 1/3-1/2 ounce plants in a 2'/3'/6' area ill be a happy camper.
 
iloveit

iloveit

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Demosthenese said:
prbly not till the end of the summer. I've been pricing it out and i think it'll be about 1500 once i factor in the cost of a new strain to run in it. The 4 inch pipe is expensive in north america, and the 45 degree bends especially are like 10 bucks + each. I'm looking for a cheaper pipe alternative.
My favorite part about the system is the lack of stress; it's almost impossible for the system to kill the plants. As long as you check it every couple days, even an unoticed broken pump wouldn't kill them outright. i get scared if ive been away from my current aero system for more then 12 hours.
I was wrestling for a while with fitting this type of system inside a cabinet, but i think it will work well. The plants will all be within a foot or so of the light, and they would each have at least 12 inches to grow in. The chimney this layout creates will work well for air circulation and keeping heat down. Having the res in an independant chamber is excellent for both cleaning and res changes and keeping it chilled. Finally, you can fit up too 8 plants in each layer, and with 4-5 layers depending on height of the cabinet you could get upwards of 30-40 plants in this thing. If i can get 30-40 1/3-1/2 ounce plants in a 2'/3'/6' area ill be a happy camper.
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Sounds like youve given it a grat deal of thought. Make sure you PM me when you get it up & runnning.
 
Buddy Boiee

Buddy Boiee

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Demosthenese- you'll be interested to see my version of this. Its taken several weeks to conceive,
But it dramatically cheaper to build
without sacrificing the important aspects of this system.

I'm building templates this weekend.

When I get the first piece done, Ill post up a new thread

Ill make note of it here when I start the project posting.

I've got to get it done asap because my last crop is just about two weeks out

:D
 
Jimmy Luffnan

Jimmy Luffnan

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Very very inspiring thread from Heath (long time crush:hump:) lol

If you make it back some time Heath... I was wondering if in your experience if there is a maximum flow rate that you can use without ripping the roots from the pots?

I know it is hard to calculate with factors such as tube diameter, pot depth, input pipe etc. all contributing the equation of the speed of the water vs how many liters actually pass through the system...?

Any advice for calculating this or can you provide a 'happy medium' flow rate?

Cheers.
 
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Skeksis

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Buddy Boiee said:
Demosthenese- you'll be interested to see my version of this. Its taken several weeks to conceive,
But it dramatically cheaper to build
without sacrificing the important aspects of this system.

I'm building templates this weekend.

When I get the first piece done, Ill post up a new thread

Ill make note of it here when I start the project posting.

I've got to get it done asap because my last crop is just about two weeks out

:D
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Sounds good. post a link here when you do plz. This was an awesome project but somewhat advanced for the casual DIY'er. I wonder if anyone has a parts list for Heath's version though?
 
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easypleasie

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I'm curious also with the flow rate. I'm gonna build something similar but for a tree run - well, at least big bushes :)

This system, along with many of your other grows, has greatly inspired me. I have since switched to vertical and haven't looked back. Currently building a 2nd flower room to run experiments. And i've got a vert system idea that I haven't seen anyone do yet. Hope to get some feedback from the master when I get things going in about a month.

Hope you free up some time in your busy schedule to join us again. It's always exciting to have a Heath update!

I actually hope you are finished with this thread cause that just might mean you're working on a new clever setup!
 
Buddy Boiee

Buddy Boiee

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Skeksis said:
Sounds good. post a link here when you do plz. This was an awesome project but somewhat advanced for the casual DIY'er. I wonder if anyone has a parts list for Heath's version though?
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I agree the set up is advanced, ingenious in my opinion

but the operation is the most simple
one pump up and in,
constantly, low EC and good air flow up

Homie the parts are listed very first post
and i recapped the whole thing several posts ago
Heath Robinson said:
Welcome to my latest vertical grow, this time around I am using 4" soil pipe, a 4000 litre per hour pump, and one 600w bulb.
The internal diameter is 4 ft.

The build used 27 = 45 degree double sockets
4 = 90 degree double sockets
5 = Double socket pipe couplers
35 = pipe clips
and approx 8 x 3 metre lengths of pipe.

The idea is very simple, the feed from the pump enters the top tube and gravity lets the nutrients flow through the tubes until it returns to the res. The different thing about this design is the tubes are running in a floded state. I have set the level so the nutrient solution is about 1/4 of an inch above the bottom of the net pots.

This level controll is achieved by a simple dam built into a collar on each level, I have taken a pic of this simple level control so you can see how it works. To lower or increase the fluid level in the pipe is achieved by simply turning the collar which contains the dam.
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Buddy Boiee

Buddy Boiee

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nephilthy said:
though id post some older pics of my system almost up and running
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Helluva system there
I finally have some time this week open to get on my project.

A ticking vw engine got yanked
planting weather popped in for the OD
40 some holes later

we are set for summer

Ie got all kinds of stuff posted on another site (IC)
ill post my flood tube here though
 
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