ZigZagZane's 09 SoCal outdoor medical grow w/PICS

rdecosta88

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from what i can recall ya males only produce pollen sacs not seeds seeds come from a pollinated female! just like the birds and the bees man!!! stick ur dick in a female cum if shes ovulating or wutever she gets prego! understand! same concept lol
 

HIGHFLY

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But it he takes a pollen sac from the male goes to a flowering female and he shakes the pollen sac next to the female wont the female produce seeds?!
 

Dr. Greenhorn

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Hehehe
I am almost certain zig knew that, just a big misunderstanding, that's all. At least for the people who didn't know this subject, they know now :)
 

harvest

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hmmm iono forsure...but i think the seeds would just be male and female...

I thought I read somewhere that if you have a hermi plant is carries the female genes because it came from a female plant. So when it pollinates with another female the seeds will have 2 female genes meaning all the seeds will all be female/feminized.

Does anyone know if that is right?
 

Zig Zag Zane

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took these today:blsmoke:
Pic1: Just put this lil one in the ground..think im gonna experiment and scrog this one...
Pic2: Purp doing great.
Pic3: Had another male.
Pic4: Hollands hope gettin fatter, while the durban is getting tall fast...gotta love them sativas:eyesmoke:
Pic5: garden shot.

:peace:
 

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Zig Zag Zane

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I thought I read somewhere that if you have a hermi plant is carries the female genes because it came from a female plant. So when it pollinates with another female the seeds will have 2 female genes meaning all the seeds will all be female/feminized.

Does anyone know if that is right?
Shit I hope thats correct...:lol:
cuz I got a full blown purple widow hermi..
 

Angus

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Feminized seeds are a marketing ploy to rob you of your hard earned dollars.

From a good friend of mine

Folks will disagree with me, but I don't feel there is anything stable at all with FEM seeds.

At best, you get a breeder that knows what he/she is doing. By that, I mean you have a breeder who has a special female that has been watched and studied for a long time to know that it is stable. By stable, I mean it doesn't have a tendency to produce male flowers under environmental stresses. This forced female (by using colchicine) will produce "XX" and "XY" pollen resulting in progeny that are "XXX" and "XXY". This is the most ideal, and honestly, both are hermi. This is fine though if all you care about is that generation. In other words if you are just going to grow these seeds out, harvest, and then not try to clone or continue the line then you are fine. To me, this is the only real functional application of feminized seeds. For the most part, you will have a 99% female crop with maybe a few hidden nanners on some of those "XXY" females.

At worst, you get a breeder that just wants to make money. They find a dank cut but don't check to see if it is stable before applying the cholcicine. Or, or, or, they look for a fairly dank female that puts out a male nanner or two in flower anyway (without cholcicine). Either way, you are going to get nutty pollen that could be "XX", "XY", "XXY", "XYY". When I hear horror stories about folks having big time hermi problems with fem seeds, it tells me a lot about the breeder they got them from. These seeds are highly unstable and are a waste of the grower's time.

If you plan on cloning and keeping a female alive, then don't waste your time on fem seeds unless you just absolutely have to have a certain female. I'll never waste my time with fem seeds. I would rather spend my time selecting from males and females and finding that one super female to keep. Of course, my setup is condusive to that. As I said, some folks need feminized seeds based on how their grow is set up. So if you can only grow from seed and you can't keep clones, then "Stable" or rather "Reliable" feminized seeds may be an option. Personally I would rather buy double the regular seeds and just cut out the males. This is typically cheaper as feminized seeds are usually more than double the price of regular seeds.

And please, for the love of the plant, if you are planning to breed, DO NOT used a feminized female. Remember, your most ideal case is that she is "XXX". Still a hermi, and the progeny from her crossed with a stable male will be "XXX" and "XXY". HERMI HERMI HERMI. Hermaphrodites are one step closer to our favorite plant turning to hemp. A self pollinating sea of low THC, low yielding plants.
Same thing if the plant hermies by itself. All offspring will technically be hermaphrodites.
 

Boulderheads

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Thanks to Angus for bringing that post in. Good explanation subcool. Glad I am following along with this one. Zig... those first 2 plants are so friggin symmetrical... I love it. Keep up the good work my friend.. I am California dreaming every day.. probably be about 5 more years until I stake my claim up north between Sacramento and Shasta. Rock on Bro!!
 

Zig Zag Zane

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Thanks to Angus for bringing that post in. Good explanation subcool. Glad I am following along with this one. Zig... those first 2 plants are so friggin symmetrical... I love it. Keep up the good work my friend.. I am California dreaming every day.. probably be about 5 more years until I stake my claim up north between Sacramento and Shasta. Rock on Bro!!
Yeah Angus great post bro...and thanks Boulderheads...I hope you do indeed make it to California some day man...I'll wlecome you with open arms and a fat blunt:bigjoint: Shasta's a beautiful place too...
 

Boulderheads

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Thanks Zig!!! I am seeking medical freedom from my conservative state..(bad car accident and docs won't do surgery cuz too risky, and I am not getting hooked on synthetic crap just to contribute to some pharmaceutical corp retirement fund.) although there has been talks of a Bill being passed.. either way I need a change of scenery..

I have seen enough of the east coast.. and want a bunch of land for my dogs to run on on.. close to mountains, ocean and forests..CA seems like the place. How long you been a resident my friend, if u don't mind me asking? Any good places you know of about an hour from Sacramento? My g/f is going to be a speech pathologist, so she needs to be near a hospital setting or city atmosphere. Sorry to blab man I have been up for 20+hrs now and just got my firstbongsmilie.

Boulderhead
 

Zig Zag Zane

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Thanks Zig!!! I am seeking medical freedom from my conservative state..(bad car accident and docs won't do surgery cuz too risky, and I am not getting hooked on synthetic crap just to contribute to some pharmaceutical corp retirement fund.) although there has been talks of a Bill being passed.. either way I need a change of scenery..

I have seen enough of the east coast.. and want a bunch of land for my dogs to run on on.. close to mountains, ocean and forests..CA seems like the place. How long you been a resident my friend, if u don't mind me asking? Any good places you know of about an hour from Sacramento? My g/f is going to be a speech pathologist, so she needs to be near a hospital setting or city atmosphere. Sorry to blab man I have been up for 20+hrs now and just got my firstbongsmilie.

Boulderhead
Dont even trip bro your not blabbing haha yeah I cant even imagine it must be like to live in a state w/no medical marijuana...I was born and raised in southern california by the way so ive been a resident all my life:mrgreen:...oh and sorry dont know any places near Sac...Im in the heart of SoCal near los angeles, but honestly Id rather be more near Norcal too!
 

majikninja

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the garden is lookin good.. i loved it in nor cal when i lived up there but my parents moved us all back to az when i was in 6th grade.. missed it ever since.. can't wait to go back and grow legally.. keep the dream alive Zig lol
 

notoriousb

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Thanks Zig!!! I am seeking medical freedom from my conservative state..(bad car accident and docs won't do surgery cuz too risky, and I am not getting hooked on synthetic crap just to contribute to some pharmaceutical corp retirement fund.) although there has been talks of a Bill being passed.. either way I need a change of scenery..

I have seen enough of the east coast.. and want a bunch of land for my dogs to run on on.. close to mountains, ocean and forests..CA seems like the place. How long you been a resident my friend, if u don't mind me asking? Any good places you know of about an hour from Sacramento? My g/f is going to be a speech pathologist, so she needs to be near a hospital setting or city atmosphere. Sorry to blab man I have been up for 20+hrs now and just got my firstbongsmilie.

Boulderhead
Look up Nevada County Boulder. 45 min from sac and an hour away from tahoe :bigjoint: I love it!! bongsmilie
 
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