Canada - Bill C-15... Contact your MP

yeldarb

yeldarb

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Hey everyone, if you live in Canada you should definitely check out this new bill that was introduced by the Conservative Government. It is currently being debated in committee. Basically it is putting mandatory minimum sentences of possession and growing.....ie one plant = mandatory 6 months

I have already contacted my MP, you should dot he same, so that Parliment knows how all Canadians feel.

Here is a video showing some debate on the Bill. The Justice Minister is not willing to say there is no evidence, what a prick. This better not pass, Canada would be going backwards while the U.S. is currently repealing their harsh laws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56a9DUJ1vmg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecouchlockcafe%2Ecom%2Fshowpost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D46794%26postcount%3D7&feature=player_embedded
 
Thebiglungblowski

Thebiglungblowski

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Thats interesting.. Im In Canada and this is very troubling... he says this is directed at the people in the business of 200 plants.. but in a mandatory minimum.. even the guy with 1 plant no longer has the right to representation.. and everything will be concidered... cultivation for the purpose of traffiking... give me a fucking break!
 
ford442

ford442

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jeez.. right off i do not like this guy.. 'Justice Minister'.. that makes him like our Attorney General.. he seems a bit mad with power...

it sounds like they want to use 'trafficking' as a blanket term so they can kick toddlers... :-(

does he ever give any evidence as the woman requested? he says this is what the govt 'believes' and she should ask her constituency.. that guy's a dick eh?

ya - this has to be stopped!! he says the bill has 'full support' of the government.. i have thought of relocating to Canada someday - but this is pretty much a deal breaker if it happens..
 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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Here is the e-mail I sent to my MP:

I was extremely disappointed to see a reintroduction of a bill tabled in November 2007. Bill C-15 seeks to impose mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses. These amendments seem to have been based off the draconian laws that were developed in America's failed War on Drugs. America's misguided laws have brought Mexico to it's knees with drug funded criminal organizations on the verge of destroying the country.

It has been proven time and again that deterrence is not a successful method to solve criminal issues. Drugs are a public health issue, and should be addressed as such. I firmly believe that Canada should be moving the opposite direction then the one shown by Justice Minister Rob Nicholson.

I hope to see strict opposition to this bill during its second reading.

Regards,

And here is my MP's response:

Thank you for taking the time to e-mail me with your thoughts on Bill C-15 (An Act to amend the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts). This Bill would introduce mandatory minimum sentences for certain serious drug offences.



This Bill is part of the Conservative government’s so-called “Tough on Crime” legislation. Despite overwhelming evidence that mandatory minimum sentences have no effect on drug use, they have introduced Bill C-15. If passed, it would apply mandatory minimum sentences to serious drug offences, such as trafficking and production.



The Liberal Party would like to examine this Bill at Justice Committee, where it will go if passed at second reading. The Conservatives will have to provide concrete evidence that they believe these proposals will work to make Canada a safer place, and show that they are not pursuing this crime agenda simply to score political points.



Thank you again for taking the time to e-mail me.
 
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orangefrog

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shits fucked, politicians dont give too much about a country, if you give them money they will find a way to pass a law.

But if this law passes im sure his family will be kidnapped or some shit cause there is no way everyone is gonna just sit on there ass when fucked up shit like this passes. if you watch the 16 part video on youtube it says if you are caught anywhere near a school or where kids go you get a mandatory minimum which has nothing to do with trafficing or production and that is the whole city, where do kids no go?
 
Thebiglungblowski

Thebiglungblowski

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this bill is just the same blll formerly known as c-29.. this has already been thrown out and dissolved.. and they are trying to bring this back into debate!
 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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Thebiglungblowski said:
this bill is just the same blll formerly known as c-29.. this has already been thrown out and dissolved.. and they are trying to bring this back into debate!
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SON OF A BITCH, the god damned thing was passed. Fucking idiots. My MLA just lost my vote after supporting this shit.

Now we can only pray that the Senate is not as retarded as the conservatives and liberals and actually look at the evidence being presented to them at the readings.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck, not a proud day to be Canadian, moving backwards.
 
ontariogrower

ontariogrower

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its stuff like this that makes me just want to kill harper hes fuckin more mental than bush its like the US takes a hugh step forward with cali almost legal and canada takes this massive step back its just gonna get vetoed at some point
 
JohnWayneCFC

JohnWayneCFC

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Lmfao , thats funny shit , well ,they mide aswell go to everyones house that lives in canada cuz i garentee you atleast 80% of canadians have something to do with marijuana some way or another ,they are gonna have alot of fun when they realize they are going to have to make more prisons cuz they are too full , its just going to hit them right in there face like a sack of bricks when they come to they're sense's that no matter what they say or do , NOBODY is going to give a fuck! , this just gives us an oppertunity to become more succesful in are techniques of being more stealth and discreat , they are making the biggest mistake ever by actually trying to pass this bill because the crime rate is going to shoot right through the roof like mad i can garentee that right now! , if they would take the time to think , it would be more reasonable to go after the harder drug users because what is really making the crime rate so bad is all the crack and crystal meth users , now thats some shit they should be busting some nutts about! , if this bill does pass , half the country will probably stop voteing because they gave up on their country , im almost ashamed to even call myself a canadian at this point , canada is sapose to be about freedom , well where the fuck is the freedom at? fuck'em thats what i say , if they made marijuna legal i bet that are crime would be so low that we almost wouldent even need police cuz we would all be to blazed out of are skull to do fucked up shit , fuck if they wanna do somthing useful why dont they make drinking illegal , theres more deaths and crime right there then there ever will be with dope , smokes are worse , like what the fuck , they should be happy people are smokeing weed and growing it , atleast it wont kill them being safe at home to stoned to even get up, i think this bill is complete bullshit , its un called for and not nessisary , if it pass's i would personly give them a piece of my mind one way or another cuz they wont get away with it , theres to many people in canada that will fight against this bill with everything they have! , but im done , talking about this actually pisses me off lol , sorry for such the long replay , but people need to be heard and i garentee you by god they will be! , peace out , and keep tokin!
 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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JohnWayneCFC said:
Lmfao , thats funny shit , well ,they mide aswell go to everyones house that lives in canada cuz i garentee you atleast 80% of canadians have something to do with marijuana some way or another ,they are gonna have alot of fun when they realize they are going to have to make more prisons cuz they are too full , its just going to hit them right in there face like a sack of bricks when they come to they're sense's that no matter what they say or do , NOBODY is going to give a fuck! , this just gives us an oppertunity to become more succesful in are techniques of being more stealth and discreat , they are making the biggest mistake ever by actually trying to pass this bill because the crime rate is going to shoot right through the roof like mad i can garentee that right now! , if they would take the time to think , it would be more reasonable to go after the harder drug users because what is really making the crime rate so bad is all the crack and crystal meth users , now thats some shit they should be busting some nutts about! , if this bill does pass , half the country will probably stop voteing because they gave up on their country , im almost ashamed to even call myself a canadian at this point , canada is sapose to be about freedom , well where the fuck is the freedom at? fuck'em thats what i say , if they made marijuna legal i bet that are crime would be so low that we almost wouldent even need police cuz we would all be to blazed out of are skull to do fucked up shit , fuck if they wanna do somthing useful why dont they make drinking illegal , theres more deaths and crime right there then there ever will be with dope , smokes are worse , like what the fuck , they should be happy people are smokeing weed and growing it , atleast it wont kill them being safe at home to stoned to even get up, i think this bill is complete bullshit , its un called for and not nessisary , if it pass's i would personly give them a piece of my mind one way or another cuz they wont get away with it , theres to many people in canada that will fight against this bill with everything they have! , but im done , talking about this actually pisses me off lol , sorry for such the long replay , but people need to be heard and i garentee you by god they will be! , peace out , and keep tokin!
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It makes no sense at all. I e-mailed my MP again asking where the evidence is that this type of sentences where you disallow Judges to actually judge works. Haven't heard back yet.

I don't know if there is a conspiracy or something but I always read the Globe and Mail, and they haven't reported anything on this bill. Canadians don't even know that this is becoming law because the press isn't informing them. I e-mailed the editor there asking why they haven't reported on it.
 
AcidElement

AcidElement

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yeldarb said:
It makes no sense at all. I e-mailed my MP again asking where the evidence is that this type of sentences where you disallow Judges to actually judge works. Haven't heard back yet.

I don't know if there is a conspiracy or something but I always read the Globe and Mail, and they haven't reported anything on this bill. Canadians don't even know that this is becoming law because the press isn't informing them. I e-mailed the editor there asking why they haven't reported on it.
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GOOD JOB !!! i love how you havnt give up with out a fight... We need to make noise people.. Canadians arnt being Told what there governemnt is Doing.. because of Harper .. AKA BUSH ideology which wants us to be in a Police State..... When i finish Law School politics is where im headed .. and i refuse to let these politions Lie to the masses .. We gotta take the power back in our hands ... which reminds me of HOW ON EARTH n WHY On earth canada bent to the WIll of the fuckin DEA.. with there attempts at Marc Emery !!! ... GIVE ME BACK MY FREEDOM !!!!!
 
ontariogrower

ontariogrower

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ok I got a question for those governmetn wiss out there cause its not clicking in my brain

The canadian government is going on there summer break does this mean that we don;t have to worry about this untill fall

like if there are break do they still pass laws or what
 
skiskate

skiskate

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yeldarb said:
It makes no sense at all. I e-mailed my MP again asking where the evidence is that this type of sentences where you disallow Judges to actually judge works. Haven't heard back yet.

I don't know if there is a conspiracy or something but I always read the Globe and Mail, and they haven't reported anything on this bill. Canadians don't even know that this is becoming law because the press isn't informing them. I e-mailed the editor there asking why they haven't reported on it.
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I read the toronto star, and up until the bill was passed they were talking about it almost every single day. And all the articles were against it. They also had a week long series about the mexican drug problem, it was very pro legalization.
 
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flintster03

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These reps. are voted in to provide service to us the PEOPLE. I think that it is getting close to the time that if they are not going to do what the PEOPLE want, maybe we should take them on a offshore DEEP SEA fishing trip.
 
ontariogrower

ontariogrower

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flintster03 said:
These reps. are voted in to provide service to us the PEOPLE. I think that it is getting close to the time that if they are not going to do what the PEOPLE want, maybe we should take them on a offshore DEEP SEA fishing trip.
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We have a saying that if a boy aint right in the head we go out and have a hunting accident cheaper on gas lol
 
sirsmoksalot

sirsmoksalot

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Holly fack guys I just stumbled on this! I'm a proud Canadian toker and this is not right. I have a wife and kid and If I get caught smoking/growing even one plant does that mean I'm off to jail? If so there goes my house, truck wife kid everything. I smoke to control pain and maybe I enjoy a bit on the weekend rec. I don't drink, I'm law abbiding (except toking i guess and maybe i drive a bit fast but come on this is fucking rediculious. If this is passed does that mean theres no fighting it? Just stright off to jail? I hope this is aimed more at cocain and harsher drugs and chemicals not MJ. This is fuck up. Like someone said on page one. "Not a proud day to be Canadian"

Also this is the first I heard about this.
 
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