GrowRebel
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Yeah in your mind ... and we have a pretty good idea what kind of mind that is.
Yeah why don't you? We can make you look ridiculous in that one too.
Oh Goodie! ... More on 911 (inside job) :)
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First off you never call someone who was in the Marines a soldier, you were never part of the military so you aren't in the know so I can;'t hold it against you,but now you know. Marines are very disciplined, they follow orders blindly for the most part, they do not normally question motives until they have experience and rank. In the Military there is a chain of command that is followed, if a pilot was told to stand down, there is no argument, orders must be followed or people die. No One is "in on it" they all are complicit but just don't know what is going on nor do they have any clue that they are the ones perpetrating crimes. They are just doing what they are told, there are severe penalties in the military for not following orders, even the death penalty can apply.
LOL Clerks didn't order palates thats an exercise tape for women to lose weight , they order pallets. sorry couldn't help myself, your spelling is really good 99.9% of the time.
I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt the military was involved in any way with the towers. Private contractors were the ones who prepped the building I would guess, why have the military do it? That just seems like a bad idea waiting to get worse, someone would have definitely noticed a bunch of military personnel standing around.
GrowRebel
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It REQUIRES an REAL INVESTIGATION ... what part of that don't you get?
For who?
They don't have to be "in" on it ... that part of your delusions. All who was "in" on it would come out in a REAL INVESTIGATION ... what part of that don't you get?
It wasn't kept quiet ... you keep covering your eye and ears so it seems quiet only to lovers of criminals government ... if it had been kept quiet ... we wouldn't be having this debate now would we? Sworn to protect us
do you ask them to come and tuck you in at night too? 
Something sweet tasting with great smell, and buzz ... as always
what... huh?
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Didn't know, will not happen again. Didn't know you were in the marines either. I thought soldier covered all branches. What would be the appropriate term if branch is unestablished?
Which is why I ask you for a number. This was 8 years ago. Not one would question why they were loading the ordinances in the WTC?
I understand it is also the responsibility of the officer(?) to not comply with orders that violate their sworn duties... right?
LOL... that is funny. I am a fair speller, but I do let spell check hit my typos and occasional mistake... clicked the wrong alternative. Why bother explaining it? Probably some level of insecurity.
But people loading the stress points with a hundred ton of ordinance would pass.
How many people occupy the situation room at NORAD on a given day do you suppose? They are service personnel no? Wargames, failsafe and Dr. Strangelove are my only references.
Ughh my damned scissors are covered with so much hash they are starting to take a lot of effort to cut. Its Northern Lights, sticky and sickly sweet smelling, like cotton candy on a hot day.
I guess if one did not know what branch another served in (Although if you read the post you will see that it was mentioned), you would pose the question like you did, but since I had already stated what branch I was in I assumed you had read it. No harm done.
Not just officers, enlisted and warrants can also disobey orders on grounds of "Right or Wrong" but you may as well know that just because you disobey an unlawful order does not make your crime of disobeying it go away. You still get punished, but so does the person issuing the command. Anyway if you want someone to know nothing then you lie to them. Lets say i want you to run into a home and shoot everyone inside, now i know they aren't the enemy, but the people in that house pissed me off for some reason and I want them dead. All I gotta do is tell my men that "Terrorists" are holed up inside and won't come out and its their job to get rid of them before they kill us all. Nuff said, I tell a lie and the men do my bidding knowing nothing about the real motives. Easy! A conspiracy of many, only one is culpable though, the rest were duped.
Not every floor had to have demo, normally just the top and bottom floors, but the WTC was built like 3 buildings stacked on top of one another so I suppose there would ahve been more than typical. Not sure your guy's estimates of how much thermite it must have taken to do what it did is any where near correct. I have no idea since i have never actually pulled a building myself.
How many people occupy the situation room? None I hope, not unless there is a "Situation". Hollywood embellishes and distorts, never take anything you see in the movies as pertaining to anything that is "Real". Its all make believe. But im sure you know that, just like you know that cars that fall off cliffs do not explode 99.999% of the time in reality, but in the movies its 100%.
I guess if one did not know what branch another served in (Although if you read the post you will see that it was mentioned), you would pose the question like you did, but since I had already stated what branch I was in I assumed you had read it. No harm done.
Not just officers, enlisted and warrants can also disobey orders on grounds of "Right or Wrong" but you may as well know that just because you disobey an unlawful order does not make your crime of disobeying it go away. You still get punished, but so does the person issuing the command. Anyway if you want someone to know nothing then you lie to them. Lets say i want you to run into a home and shoot everyone inside, now i know they aren't the enemy, but the people in that house pissed me off for some reason and I want them dead. All I gotta do is tell my men that "Terrorists" are holed up inside and won't come out and its their job to get rid of them before they kill us all. Nuff said, I tell a lie and the men do my bidding knowing nothing about the real motives. Easy! A conspiracy of many, only one is culpable though, the rest were duped.
Not every floor had to have demo, normally just the top and bottom floors, but the WTC was built like 3 buildings stacked on top of one another so I suppose there would ahve been more than typical. Not sure your guy's estimates of how much thermite it must have taken to do what it did is any where near correct. I have no idea since i have never actually pulled a building myself.
How many people occupy the situation room? None I hope, not unless there is a "Situation". Hollywood embellishes and distorts, never take anything you see in the movies as pertaining to anything that is "Real". Its all make believe. But im sure you know that, just like you know that cars that fall off cliffs do not explode 99.999% of the time in reality, but in the movies its 100%.
what... huh?
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That is why I was asking. I have been inside NSA, and one hand has no idea what the other is doing. As a contractor I knew even less. Working blind on tying together things you aren't allowed to understand is an interesting chore. That was back when I could keep a clearance. I am jealous of your scissors. I live on a farm, and when you say crops I think crops... then it occurred to me where I was. Glad you are in the stick nasty.
I knew you were military from my first ass kicking on ordinance. I didn't know I had been told which branch.
Another question... Semper Fi(delis)... I always feel an urge to say it... but if some candy ass civi said it to me and it held value to me, I would probably ask that they not... so I never have. How is that taken from non military? I am very at odds with showing support, and not being a douche. I really cannot tell you the value I hold in service members. Even jackasses are ode my gratitude. Very hard for me to be an asshole to them. I have had to work very hard at being such a prick to you. I just want you to be aware.
I knew you were military from my first ass kicking on ordinance. I didn't know I had been told which branch.
Another question... Semper Fi(delis)... I always feel an urge to say it... but if some candy ass civi said it to me and it held value to me, I would probably ask that they not... so I never have. How is that taken from non military? I am very at odds with showing support, and not being a douche. I really cannot tell you the value I hold in service members. Even jackasses are ode my gratitude. Very hard for me to be an asshole to them. I have had to work very hard at being such a prick to you. I just want you to be aware.
Semper Fi is what the Marines say, its shortened from Semper Fidelis which you apparently know and it means "Always Faithful" . The only time I ever said it was when talking to another Marine, so you don't hear it too often and any civilian who said that to me would be a suspect former Marine. I wouldn't be feeling dishonored or anything to have someone else say it to me, but theres always that one Jar Head who is gonna rip off your head and shit down your neck just for what he thinks is you trying to be cute. There are some real crazy fuckers in the USMC, some real killers who if left out on the street would certainly be spending life in prison. Good idea to err on the side of safety.
Lot of work yet to do here.
Lot of work yet to do here.
lol its amazing how people can be so blind, that was me before i decided to get off my lazy ass and stop going on hearsay and educated my self, all well some dont want to wake from their blissful slumber, humans really arent that intelegent our ignorance is killing us when really its all so simple, too bad
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Hey everyone, I just made this poll to see what the numbers actually are. Go vote, simple as fuck.
https://www.rollitup.org/politics/212599-911-poll-do-you-believe.html
https://www.rollitup.org/politics/212599-911-poll-do-you-believe.html
GrowRebel
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Do you mind clarifying ... I'm not sure of your point of view.
I voted, but there was a poll on this a while ago and the results were clear ... Most of us understand 911 was an inside job. It will be interesting to see how folks vote the last poll is a bit dated and more info has been introduced since then.
GrowRebel
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Here's an interesting video find folks. News footage on 911 ...
9/11 Video Clips Corporate Media Would Rather Not Show You
[youtube]ckGn8p5k6q8&feature=related[/youtube]
It is rather curious that people and reporters at the pentagon site are not seeing anything that resembles a plane.
9/11 Video Clips Corporate Media Would Rather Not Show You
[youtube]ckGn8p5k6q8&feature=related[/youtube]
It is rather curious that people and reporters at the pentagon site are not seeing anything that resembles a plane.
Antidisestablishmentarian
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Here you go. Tons of videos of thermite burning.
But what's the point really?
You'll just say bullshit, you aren't an expert in thermite, etc.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=thermite burning&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#
But what's the point really?
You'll just say bullshit, you aren't an expert in thermite, etc.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=thermite burning&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#
Antidisestablishmentarian
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Wow, so you really don't believe we landed on the moon, Rebel?
GrowRebel
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Oh really? ... and pray tell when did I said that? Bet you can't find anything. You people really love to make shit up when you can't counter facts. How pathetic. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with 911 ... try and focus on the issue.
GrowRebel
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Hey guys ... remember in my post where I told you about the employee of UL that got fired? Well he put out a pretty extensive paper.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0907/S00124.htmKevin R. Ryan: Demolition access to the WTC Towers
Bremer was on the international advisory board for the Japanese mining and machinery company, Komatsu. At the time, Komatsu had been involved in a joint venture agreement with Dresser Industries, the oil-services/intelligence front in which Prescott Bush Sr. and George H. W. Bush got their start with Neil Mallon. The Komatsu-Dresser mining division operated from 1988 to 1997.In July 1996, it patented a thermite demolition device that could demolish a concrete structure at a high efficiency, while preventing a secondary problem due to noise, flying dust and chips, and the like.[25] Residues of thermite, the highly energetic chemical mixture, have been confirmed in samples of the WTC dust, and the use of thermite at the WTC was also revealed by environmental data.[1, 2, 3, 4, 26] Dresser Industries merged with Dick Cheneys Halliburton in 1998.
More info that blows hw and others bullshit out the window. 911 was an inside job, more evidence to that fact comes out everyday. I thank God this isn't going away. We have to keep the pressure on to get a real investigation. You will see that this guy backs all his shit. He's got a ton of footnotes at the end of the article ... and as you can see lots of referral in his article. So those that say "well how did they get all those explosives in the building" ... here ya go.
Here are a few snips from the paper.
One important way to see the false nature of Bushs conspiracy theory is to note the fact that the World Trade Center buildings could only have fallen as they did through the use of explosives. A number of independent scientific studies have pointed out this fact [1, 2, 3, 4], but it was Bushs own scientists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), through their inability to provide a convincing defense of the official line, who ultimately proved that explosives were necessary
Throughout the life of the WTC buildings, modifications were made to each structure. The modifications included upgrades to electrical, fire protection, and elevator systems, as well as general construction activities
9/11, American Airlines Flight 11 hit the north face of the north tower (WTC 1) between floors 94 and 99. In a stunning coincidence, these floors bracket those that had been upgraded for fireproofing shortly before 9/11
Baseline was led by a very interesting individual named Joseph Kasputys, who had a history of being well connected to the highest levels of government, as well as to defense and intelligence industries. Kasputys worked, from 1972 to 1977, for the US departments of commerce and defense. He was also the deputy director of Nixons White House taskforce that dealt with the Arab oil embargo of 1973, and he was instrumental in the creation of the Department of Energy (DOE).
Kasputys connections to the DOE, from 1977 through at least 1997, are interesting considering that the DOE was developing thermite ignition devices as early as 1983.[29] Additonally, national laboratories working within the DOE developed nanothermites in the late 1990s. Nanothermites are explosive thermite mixtures where one or more reactants are present at the nanometer scale. These are also called super-thermites due to the extraordinarily large amount of energy released upon ignition
What did I tell ya ... under the guise of "construction" they could easily plant explosives in the key places needed to bring those buildings down. The facts are staring in us in the face ... it's impossible to ignore the truth, unless you are one of those individuals that simply can't handle the truth. Pay particular attention to the parts of the article that states all those that benefited from 911.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0907/S00124.htmKevin R. Ryan: Demolition access to the WTC Towers
Bremer was on the international advisory board for the Japanese mining and machinery company, Komatsu. At the time, Komatsu had been involved in a joint venture agreement with Dresser Industries, the oil-services/intelligence front in which Prescott Bush Sr. and George H. W. Bush got their start with Neil Mallon. The Komatsu-Dresser mining division operated from 1988 to 1997.In July 1996, it patented a thermite demolition device that could demolish a concrete structure at a high efficiency, while preventing a secondary problem due to noise, flying dust and chips, and the like.[25] Residues of thermite, the highly energetic chemical mixture, have been confirmed in samples of the WTC dust, and the use of thermite at the WTC was also revealed by environmental data.[1, 2, 3, 4, 26] Dresser Industries merged with Dick Cheneys Halliburton in 1998.
More info that blows hw and others bullshit out the window. 911 was an inside job, more evidence to that fact comes out everyday. I thank God this isn't going away. We have to keep the pressure on to get a real investigation. You will see that this guy backs all his shit. He's got a ton of footnotes at the end of the article ... and as you can see lots of referral in his article. So those that say "well how did they get all those explosives in the building" ... here ya go.
Here are a few snips from the paper.
One important way to see the false nature of Bushs conspiracy theory is to note the fact that the World Trade Center buildings could only have fallen as they did through the use of explosives. A number of independent scientific studies have pointed out this fact [1, 2, 3, 4], but it was Bushs own scientists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), through their inability to provide a convincing defense of the official line, who ultimately proved that explosives were necessary
Throughout the life of the WTC buildings, modifications were made to each structure. The modifications included upgrades to electrical, fire protection, and elevator systems, as well as general construction activities
9/11, American Airlines Flight 11 hit the north face of the north tower (WTC 1) between floors 94 and 99. In a stunning coincidence, these floors bracket those that had been upgraded for fireproofing shortly before 9/11
Baseline was led by a very interesting individual named Joseph Kasputys, who had a history of being well connected to the highest levels of government, as well as to defense and intelligence industries. Kasputys worked, from 1972 to 1977, for the US departments of commerce and defense. He was also the deputy director of Nixons White House taskforce that dealt with the Arab oil embargo of 1973, and he was instrumental in the creation of the Department of Energy (DOE).
Kasputys connections to the DOE, from 1977 through at least 1997, are interesting considering that the DOE was developing thermite ignition devices as early as 1983.[29] Additonally, national laboratories working within the DOE developed nanothermites in the late 1990s. Nanothermites are explosive thermite mixtures where one or more reactants are present at the nanometer scale. These are also called super-thermites due to the extraordinarily large amount of energy released upon ignition
What did I tell ya ... under the guise of "construction" they could easily plant explosives in the key places needed to bring those buildings down. The facts are staring in us in the face ... it's impossible to ignore the truth, unless you are one of those individuals that simply can't handle the truth. Pay particular attention to the parts of the article that states all those that benefited from 911.
Anti your so full of crap it amazes me. You have not brought 1 single shred of evidence supporting your claim that 19 people led by someone in a cave circumvented NORAD, The military, The FAA, local airport security and then somehow precisely flew the planes into the buildings to make them fall and disintegrate. You look like a fool from where I am standing. Only desperate people on there last leg start attacking people like you do.
I suppose you also believe that we got into the Vietnam war because they attacked us in the Gulf of Tonkin?
The only thing you've proven with these videos is that thermite gets really hot and melts through metal. Not sure what your trying to prove with this, besides evidence points to NANO thermite being used, which none of your vids show.
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