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strictly seedleSs

strictly seedleSs

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ryanp1 said:
i havent noticed a difference in my bill i started under 5 t8 2 bulb ballasts so its not a difference you go by watts not what kind of lights if i used this the total watts are like 320watts its almost the same as using a 400w hps i estimate it costs about 15 usd a month just for lights not bad when your set to get a pound of nugs.
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So i checked out the wattage, and the lumen output is the same for each of these five scenarios-

1 400w HPS = 10 4' 54w HO T5 Flo bulbs = 4.5 150w Eco Plus Flo lamps = 42 4' 40w T12 Flo bulbs = 84 60w incandescents.

So you would have to use 10 T5 Bulbs to get the same output. But you can get the flos closer to the plants then you can get the HPS. Hope this helps.
 
greenearth5

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I would take the ducting back and switch it out for the 5 in ducting.... but if you were to keep this ducting then i would suggest getting a 6" x 5" duct reducer


http://www.theductshop.com/shop/6-x-5-reducer-p-223.html

g00sEgg said:
I have a quick question about my 400w cool tube. I got it...and stupid me, I never looked to see what size it was...I was overly excited...lol.

So it comes in...and I just assume that it's a 6". So i go get all the 6 in. ducting and 6" fan...take it home...guess what. The cool tube is like 5"...right in between?

So...should i Just try to jimmy rig it with the 6" ducting? Or can I actually get 5"?
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http://www.theductshop.com/shop/6-x-5-reducer-p-223.html
 

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If I were to get a 400 watt HPS/MH system then should I get a cool tube or ventelation system also? Would the smell of a few LR2's under the light be strong enough for my neighbors to smell (apt building).
 
ryanp1

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greenearth5 said:
If I were to get a 400 watt HPS/MH system then should I get a cool tube or ventelation system also? Would the smell of a few LR2's under the light be strong enough for my neighbors to smell (apt building).
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i would think so i have four i the basement and can smell them at the front door of my house til i picked up a room scrubber for 100 bucks i wouldnt risk it they are useless if the smell gets you caught 2 things not to get cheap with are lights and odor in my book
 
ryanp1

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right but then your talking about rigging and mounting throwing in pink bulbs to get the full spectrum i just found it easier to throw up 2 hangers and be done with it i started with flouros thats what i start my clones and veg with before moving them under a mh but different strokes i will say this there is a hell of a difference in heat tho a 400w small as it is still gets pretty damn warm so ventilation starts to become important as flouros are alot cooler not needing near the ventilation
 
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hardroc said:
here's some pics, of mine........I'm a first timer, I have 400watt mh and getting a hps conversion bulb for next grow to see the differance between flowering with mh and hps. these are 3 weeks 12/12
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IS that 10 I counted? Very impressive for a 400 watter, they actually look very good. How many plants can a 400 proficiently light? I know theres different variables, veg time, reflector, etc, BUT, I thought 4 was most?
 
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greenearth5 said:
This is the light system that i most likely will get....

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47981

Should i go with this carbon scrubber and fan or with another one?

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=52531

And would this cool tube be worth it? Also, the cool tube has a built it fan so should i get a can fan with the carbon scrubber or should i just get a carbon scrubber?

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=48137
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are growing in a box then ? and the scrubber is a combo fan and all on ebay the homemade looking one i have thats what im talking about if you are in a box then the cool tube i have no experience with the srubber is a serate exhaust unit r pretty sure it can stand alone in a room the one i have is rite now.
 
greenearth5

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I will probably just throw everything in a closet and grow there. And ill be using seeds not clones.. but i might try to clone the LR2 if possible and will prob clone the Strawberry Cough.

ryanp1 said:
are growing in a box then ? and the scrubber is a combo fan and all on ebay the homemade looking one i have thats what im talking about if you are in a box then the cool tube i have no experience with the srubber is a serate exhaust unit r pretty sure it can stand alone in a room the one i have is rite now.
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greenearth5 said:
I will probably just throw everything in a closet and grow there.
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the cool tube will prolly have to vent on its own if thats the case make your own filter for your cool tube and scrap the 100 dollar filter i grow wide out in a room thats why i need it you are controling the air flow out of the closet just throw one in there on the tube and vent it out and put in a intake and your set
 
Hayduke

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strictly seedleSs said:
the initial investment might not be that lower (you can take some T8 fixtures from home depot pretty cheap) but you have to think about the monthly bill. There is a BIG diferrence there.
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No! watts is watts! HID lighting more efficiently produces lumens...rather than heat...yes they are very hot...but they are very bright!

ryanp1 said:
i havent noticed a difference in my bill i started under 5 t8 2 bulb ballasts so its not a difference you go by watts not what kind of lights if i used this the total watts are like 320watts its almost the same as using a 400w hps i estimate it costs about 15 usd a month just for lights not bad when your set to get a pound of nugs.
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5 x 2, 40w T8 = 400w of used electricity...so yeah

strictly seedleSs said:
So i checked out the wattage, and the lumen output is the same for each of these five scenarios-

1 400w HPS = 10 4' 54w HO T5 Flo bulbs = 4.5 150w Eco Plus Flo lamps = 42 4' 40w T12 Flo bulbs = 84 60w incandescents.

So you would have to use 10 T5 Bulbs to get the same output. But you can get the flos closer to the plants then you can get the HPS. Hope this helps.
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but you have too because the lumens/foot candles/photons...whatever you use to measure...do not travel as far...that is why they use HID lights 30ft up on street poles!

This is always a controversial topic....(I veg with cfls and would like to play with t-5's) but this is what I have learned...The light that is not generated by a floro bulb is generated as HEAT! Can you grow with less light which = less heat...yes...will it kick ass? NO. Can you use a lot of floros and duplicate an hid grow? Yes...but you will use many more watts of electricity to produce the same intensity of light...the extra watts are not only expensive, but they are VERY HOT!!!!!!! This eliminates the bennefit of floros being cheap and cool...they are neither!!!!!

There is no free lunch...you get what you pay for...yada yada yada....

How can I possibly know this...cuz I done it both ways!!!! I got succered into thinking that I could obtain the same swammi level of green thumbedness as SeeMoreBuds/GardenKnowm....this was foolish...after spending over $100 on 420w of cfl's and growing little tiny buds from clones...I shelled out the cash for an air-cooled 400.

MORE LIGHT, COOLER GROW BOX...WITH THE SAME FAN! (oh yeah bigger buds too!)

All that being said...I veg with like 200w of cfl's...I have a perpetual grow and do not need fast growth for my vegging girls...they kinda just kick it and take it easy.

Just so I am not misunderstood with all my shooting...I mean no disrespect, and am not trying to start a war with the cfl crew...just trying to save some noobs $100 and several months haveing to visit the street dealer!

greenearth5 said:
If I were to get a 400 watt HPS/MH system then should I get a cool tube or ventelation system also? Would the smell of a few LR2's under the light be strong enough for my neighbors to smell (apt building).
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yes and absolutely yes.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 
ryanp1

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Hayduke said:
No! watts is watts! HID lighting more efficiently produces lumens...rather than heat...yes they are very hot...but they are very bright!

5 x 2, 40w T8 = 400w of used electricity...so yeah

but you have too because the lumens/foot candles/photons...whatever you use to measure...do not travel as far...that is why they use HID lights 30ft up on street poles!

This is always a controversial topic....(I veg with cfls and would like to play with t-5's) but this is what I have learned...The light that is not generated by a floro bulb is generated as HEAT! Can you grow with less light which = less heat...yes...will it kick ass? NO. Can you use a lot of floros and duplicate an hid grow? Yes...but you will use many more watts of electricity to produce the same intensity of light...the extra watts are not only expensive, but they are VERY HOT!!!!!!! This eliminates the bennefit of floros being cheap and cool...they are neither!!!!!

There is no free lunch...you get what you pay for...yada yada yada....

How can I possibly know this...cuz I done it both ways!!!! I got succered into thinking that I could obtain the same swammi level of green thumbedness as SeeMoreBuds/GardenKnowm....this was foolish...after spending over $100 on 420w of cfl's and growing little tiny buds from clones...I shelled out the cash for an air-cooled 400.

MORE LIGHT, COOLER GROW BOX...WITH THE SAME FAN! (oh yeah bigger buds too!)

All that being said...I veg with like 200w of cfl's...I have a perpetual grow and do not need fast growth for my vegging girls...they kinda just kick it and take it easy.

Just so I am not misunderstood with all my shooting...I mean no disrespect, and am not trying to start a war with the cfl crew...just trying to save some noobs $100 and several months haveing to visit the street dealer!


yes and absolutely yes.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
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this is what i was trying to say thank you at the end of the day to get buds for bucks a 400w is the way to go i figured it out after $120 of flouros which is why i upgraded you cant expect much from flouro grow prolly around 1/2 of what you get with a 400w
 
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NASTYRUDEDOGG said:
Wow! What kind of post is that? As a disabled person, who can't stand up for too long as well, completely understand with the other guy. But this post was just insulting to me and I'm sure other people as well. I don't want to be disabled, I didn't ask to become this way, and I sure as hell would give almost anything to be well again. So keep these punk ass comments to yourself, even if you are joking, we don't like to be insulted for something we have no control over.
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I just couldn't help but offer you an apology about the obvious insensitivity this person showed you.

I aplaud you for speaking your mind and trying to grant understanding. Thanks.:peace:
 
ryanp1

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wannabee said:
I just couldn't help but offer you an apology about the obvious insensitivity this person showed you.

I aplaud you for speaking your mind and trying to grant understanding. Thanks.:peace:
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roger that i being a disabled veteran of us army active duty and wouldnt trade what i did to became disabled and damn sure would never insult anyone who was thats garbage if you are a vet then that guy who insulted you should have to go live somewhere that dont give him the right to saythings like that freely(like the so many disabled people that fought and died for that right)if you can read thank a teacher if you are reading this in english thank a soldier!!!!!!:blsmoke:
 
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