1000w cfl wa u think?

Cap K

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You can have too much light. It's called wasting energy, and I assure you it's quite possible.

Have you grown with 1000 watts of HPS and CFL before Cap K? I really doubt you have.

I've heard of people replacing 300 watts of CFls, with a 250 watt HPS system, and their grow room dropped by 5 degrees.
Just because one CFL bulb is cooler than HPS, doesn't mean they dont add up. If you use like 12 + CFL bulbs, it's going to start getting pretty hot.
If you recall in the original post dude was saying that a 1000 watt cfl should run a lot cooler than a 1000 watt hps and it does. Just a fact and I repeat there is no such thing as too much light! If there was then every outdoor plant getting an abundance of light would perish. Why do you think the average outdoor plant can grow to be two or three times the size of indoor plants? I am indeed far from an expert, but I do possess common sense andI certainly know that a 1000 watt hps puts out quite a bit more heat than a 1000 watt fluorescent. If not then why do all hps users use cool tubes an intake and outak fans? I use cfls only and I don't have to use any of that extra shit. Go figure smart guy.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
I need to see what a quid is in usd so i have a clue lol...I fiure the sockets,cord,and wiring will cost about $12-15 then the sheet metal about $20 a piece os pebble sheet reflector insert about $10 and then can of engine high heat enamal $5 then just add bulbs. I can get some 65 watt cfls so would be like a 250 watt equal to 1200 watt incandescent output or if i order my grow bulbs from my store I can grab some 300 actual watt cfls dirt cheap probably get those for about $20 each my wholesale and slap them in so could do a 4 bulb 300 watt cfls so thats 1200 watts of cfl which would be about equal to what 4800 watts regualr output hmmm ideas ideas i may have a use for cfls in this form wonder if I made the reflector so the bulbs hung verticle for deeper penetration hhmmm
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Cap your sort of wrong..There is a thing called too much light. A young plant can get light poisoning and die if the light is to intense which is why you dont put fresh clones or seedlings under HID light as it will poison them and make them sick
 

Cap K

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Cap your sort of wrong..There is a thing called too much light. A young plant can get light poisoning and die if the light is to intense which is why you dont put fresh clones or seedlings under HID light as it will poison them and make them sick
Of course you are right when it comes to really young plants and hps lighting, but I think the situation is different with cfls. For example I can put a cfl right up on an even young plant with no problems. I know I've done it, but you could never get away with that using an hps. undisputable fact.
 

sweetsmoker

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i reckon its the way forward for stealth grows , if u could do 1m2 scrog and keep the lights within 4" at all times then surely you wud be looking at a bumper yield, low height space needed , about 4ft tall and boom off ya go :) the other reason for me wantin less heat is the site of my grow, i have regular visits from the ol ghetto bird above my site and 32 odd .c is gunna be a piece of piss to see wit their cams, i was willing to pay a little over odds for the security. 1200w might be too much light though roflmao bit of overkill:P
 

Cap K

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i reckon its the way forward for stealth grows , if u could do 1m2 scrog and keep the lights within 4" at all times then surely you wud be looking at a bumper yield, low height space needed , about 4ft tall and boom off ya go :) the other reason for me wantin less heat is the site of my grow, i have regular visits from the ol ghetto bird above my site and 32 odd .c is gunna be a piece of piss to see wit their cams, i was willing to pay a little over odds for the security. 1200w might be too much light though roflmao bit of overkill:P
You should do fine with the cfls my dude if you got good control of your temps you can have that bitch within an inch or two of the tops and they'll love it. My White Rhinos are reaching for the sky right now like...Yes..give us more!
 

sweetsmoker

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at last a positive comment lol nice 1 r kid rep+ for optimism rhino is a killer strain knockout stuff aint had the pleasure for a while though gd luck
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Yes cfl is different i was just pointing out as you said never could be too much light which was wrong so wanted to make sure that was pointed out.....what happened to the pics of the reflector sweets
 

KP2

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Yes cfl is different i was just pointing out as you said never could be too much light which was wrong so wanted to make sure that was pointed out.....what happened to the pics of the reflector sweets
not to mention that not all plants can tolerate full sun. there are indoor strains that i have that will NOT grow well outdoors unless placed in full shade.

also if there was no such thing as too much light you could put indoor plants outside and they'd be just dandy. right? wrong. they'll burn to a crisp, and must be acclimated to the extreme light slowly before being left completely in full sun.
 

sweetsmoker

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Yes cfl is different i was just pointing out as you said never could be too much light which was wrong so wanted to make sure that was pointed out.....what happened to the pics of the reflector sweets

not sure m8 i didnt take em off?? here they r again
and cheers tom i hope they work as gd as they look:)
 

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FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Im not digging the mirror finish inside so i will use pebble texture in there. Would you tell me to go f myself if I asked for the mesurements on the top and then the bottom and um maybe down one side to see how deep it really is...Has the mogul large sockets for the bulbs it looks like
 

sweetsmoker

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Thank you very much sweet much appreciated

anything 4 a fellow grower :peace: let me av alook wen ya finished ya d.i.y gd luck mission on:hump:

dims are 1m long , 250mm deep and 700mm wide and y wud i tell u 2 go fck yaself m8 im always as helpfull as can be i jus cant stand peeps who are guessing at everything and advise peeps incorrectly then im liable for a rant lol
 

katwoman2012

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If the heat is so important, why can we put the same breed outside in 120 heat and they thoroughly enjoy it and then inside we try and control their heat to 75-80? What would happen to an inside crop with no temp to worry about? Also, I'd say the question on price of CFLs vs. HPS would be the power bill. I added 10 fans and 13 CFL's (42-65W) and my bill barely moved. Overall price for the bulbs and the power bill should be figured in, right?
 

MR M3RKLEZz

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well im on my first cfl grow an mine r 3 weeks into flower
there lookin good so far
and im usin 3 300watts=900watts total
and take it this way 3 300watt cfls r cooler then hps
thats the only reason i dont use it at the moment till my
cooling tube comes but cfls do do the job just have a look at my plants
click my signature
i have seen them 1000wattx4 setups
all my cfl lights r from basement lighting on ebay
 

sweetsmoker

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If the heat is so important, why can we put the same breed outside in 120 heat and they thoroughly enjoy it and then inside we try and control their heat to 75-80? What would happen to an inside crop with no temp to worry about? Also, I'd say the question on price of CFLs vs. HPS would be the power bill. I added 10 fans and 13 CFL's (42-65W) and my bill barely moved. Overall price for the bulbs and the power bill should be figured in, right?

yeah 4 sure mate if i can save 5 quid a week then after 3 mth grow i saved 65 -70 quid already never mind a few yrs down the line, nice 1 katwoman :peace: i think plants can handle the heat better outside due to the readyness of co2 and natural wind, overall a more stable environment will allow for more minor probs where as wen we make a fake environment cos we are already pushing the barriers we r punished more for any slight problems that occur:hug:
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Ganja wont survive in direct sunlight 120 degrees heat not much will. The outdoors are slightly different as mentions as the wider open area doesnt hold heat very long it disperses quickly and the air flow and humidity and natural cvo2 and exchange let the plant transpire more. That said indoor we can control the plants feed and push it to its max which you can do to a point outdoors but it is muchharder and your grow times are much longer due to natures cycles.I never have heat issues with hps light though but I dont grow in grow boxes. i do grow in tents and rooms and such but the hid lights dont add much heat for me
 
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